Will this other computer improve my renders speed?
stephangrixti
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Hello, right now my computer specs are: Intel Core i3 550 (dual-core), 8GB Ram, 1TB Hard Drive, Ati Radeon HD 5670 512mb...... The Other one: Intel Core 2 Quad QX6700 (older but quad core), 8GB Ram, 500GB Hard Drive, Ati Radeon HD 6870 2GB (newer)....... So the GPU has 4x more memory, and the CPU is quad-core, is this better?
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The quad core should be better, but Iray prefer's Nvidia gpus and not AMD/ATI gpus.
Yes but even though it isn't Nvidia, is the 2GB utilized?
Iray works off CUDA cores, which AMD GPUs don’t have, so the GPU won’t factor in to rendering at all. 3Delight, as far as I’m aware, is CPU only, so no GPU will help there.
You can still use the AMD GPU to drive your desktop and non-Iray viewport. This really only becomes practical IF you also have an Nvidia GPU installed.
I have a Ryzen 2400G APU with Vega graphics in my interim rendering build doing desktop duties, with a Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti that is 100% dedicated to rendering. My 4K monitor is attached to the motherboard HDMI port, and NOT to the Nvidia card. The PCIe lanes are split x8/x8 of course.
This allows me to work on other stuff while an Iray render is baking, without the desktop slowing to a crawl, as long as the render doesn't fall back to CPU only.
Other than desktop/viewport duties, though, yeah AMD GPUs aren't all that useful at the moment for Daz Studio. There is other rendering software out there than can leverage AMD GPUs, such as Blender. 2 GB is not very much VRAM though...
On a related note, The Radeon VII would have been an awesome card for 3D rendering, with its 16GB of HBM2, except for the 'but it doesn't support CUDA/Iray' thing... there are other 3D programs that can leverage it though...
If this is a second system, you could still do a few CPU only Iray renders on it, freeing up your main system to work on other stuff while the render is baking on the second system, if you don't mind renders taking a long time to complete. 8 GB of system ram isn't a lot of system ram these days though.
Anyways, back on point, if that system of yours has a second PCIe x16 slot, that can support a PCIe 3.0 graphics card, you might be able to drop in an Nvidia GPU and just use the Nvidia GPU for renders. Might be worth looking into if you were thinking about buying a GPU.
As someone who has an AMD GPU, I would love if Daz integrated ProRender.
Another important factor not mentioned is CPU clock speed. Intel i3's often had some mediocre clock speeds like 2.4GHz. Where above 3.0MHz would be noticeably faster.
I can't imagine DAZ concluding it's worth their time to include another render engine.
However, the SDK is there for any third party to have a go.
HIghly unlikely. A number of the PAs have stopped supporting 3DL, so there's little chance that you'll see much interest in supporting yet another render engine... especially as it would drive up the cost of all the products yet again.
But it could be sold as a plug in like the Lux renderer for Daz. It would be nice if Nvidia had some competition in 3D rendering.Competion is good for end users.
Nvidia has lots of competition. iRay probably isn't in the top 10 render engines. It's just that DS, which is at best a hobbyist/amateurs program, uses it.
out of curiosity a while back i tried to have a look into any studios that use iRay and struggled to find any
I believe, before DS, Iray was most widely used in product and architectural visualisation - which is reflected n the sample materials.
Your i3 is a 3.2GHz dual core with hyper threading, and that core 2 quad is an older achitecture 2.66GHz quad core. That Core2Quad would not be an upgrade.
If you already own both computers. I would just swap GPUs and keep using the Core i3 machine. This wil at least give you better viewport and dForce performance.
I vaguely remember a demo from Nvidia a long time ago comparing Vray and iRay for architectural rendering. It is my understanding that Vray has that market locked down.
Out of curiosity, as hobbyist 3D goes, what are the better alternatives to iRay?
The problem is DS really doesn't have any majopr competition in the space. Poser sort of but at $200 for the program many people won't like it (it uses SuperFly, which is based on Cycles, natively but has plugins for things like Cinema4D)
Depends what you mean as "better". If, as a hobbyist, you wish to create your images inside DS, then some people have said Octane is faster (although not necessarily better quality). However Iray is by far the most convienent to use since it is bundled into DS, and most of the modern products from here and elsewhere have Iray shaders, so you will not be spending ages fiddling with material settings as you would be with something like Octane.