Rynne 8 is here !

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  • scorpio said:
    Malandar said:

    Insert saying about complaining and something about a new rope... Must you all be so negative?

    If a release generates such negativity Daz need to know if all they see in the forums are gushing praise posts then they won't know why things don't sell.

    I've been around the forums long enough that I can pretty much call who's gonna say what.. but your assumption is that it's not going to sell well.  When in reality things that usually get the most negative feedback on the forums are the ones which sell really well.

    Yet I've seen things not sell well, and not a thing is mentioned on the forums..  still trying to figure that one out though!

     

    You certainly have a point. I'm sure we wouldn't see so many of these types of characters if they weren't historically good sellers.

    Simply put, Daz sells content.  It makes no sense for them to put out x amount of females in a row if they didn't sell, they would have switched it up after the second release if they weren't hitting their targets.

  • scorpio said:
    Malandar said:

    Insert saying about complaining and something about a new rope... Must you all be so negative?

    If a release generates such negativity Daz need to know if all they see in the forums are gushing praise posts then they won't know why things don't sell.

    I've been around the forums long enough that I can pretty much call who's gonna say what.. but your assumption is that it's not going to sell well.  When in reality things that usually get the most negative feedback on the forums are the ones which sell really well.

    Yet I've seen things not sell well, and not a thing is mentioned on the forums..  still trying to figure that one out though!

     

    You certainly have a point. I'm sure we wouldn't see so many of these types of characters if they weren't historically good sellers.

    Simply put, Daz sells content.  It makes no sense for them to put out x amount of females in a row if they didn't sell, they would have switched it up after the second release if they weren't hitting their targets.

    and I've heard from somone else in the know that white pretty females sell a lot higher/better than non white females despite the complaints in the forums complaning about another pretty white girl. Probably same with high heel shoes and other items despite the complaints against certain things they must sell and sell well otherwise they'd be rejected 

  • Hurdy3DHurdy3D Posts: 1,073
    scorpio said:
    Malandar said:

    Insert saying about complaining and something about a new rope... Must you all be so negative?

    If a release generates such negativity Daz need to know if all they see in the forums are gushing praise posts then they won't know why things don't sell.

    I've been around the forums long enough that I can pretty much call who's gonna say what.. but your assumption is that it's not going to sell well.  When in reality things that usually get the most negative feedback on the forums are the ones which sell really well.

    Yet I've seen things not sell well, and not a thing is mentioned on the forums..  still trying to figure that one out though!

     

    You certainly have a point. I'm sure we wouldn't see so many of these types of characters if they weren't historically good sellers.

    Simply put, Daz sells content.  It makes no sense for them to put out x amount of females in a row if they didn't sell, they would have switched it up after the second release if they weren't hitting their targets.

    My personal theory is that male stuff sales much better than female... it's propably a conspiracy... or DAZ just want to mock us wink

  • scorpio said:
    Malandar said:

    Insert saying about complaining and something about a new rope... Must you all be so negative?

    If a release generates such negativity Daz need to know if all they see in the forums are gushing praise posts then they won't know why things don't sell.

    I've been around the forums long enough that I can pretty much call who's gonna say what.. but your assumption is that it's not going to sell well.  When in reality things that usually get the most negative feedback on the forums are the ones which sell really well.

    Yet I've seen things not sell well, and not a thing is mentioned on the forums..  still trying to figure that one out though!

    Most likely because people like to complain.

    And when they see something they like they are not saying anything because there supposed to like it. so why say anything.

    People (at least the majority) tend to focus on the negative not the positive.

    (Im also guilty of that to a degree) That being said i have also posted in the XXX Appreciation thread when i really like something.

    If we wan't PA's to continue making cool stuff we have to let them know what is cool this motivates more then sales revenue. (not saying sales aren't important).

    At least that is my 2cent

  • btw you you look different different Jack Tomalin oh wait it's the glasses, you hiding your secret super hero identity

  • yeah I find it odd how many take the trouble to post they won't buy a figure.

    I always will eventually if cheap enough cheeky

    I know she will sell and later will be cheap enough eventually I will get her too

     

  • I'm happy daz tries to cater for everyone regardless of what styleof art they do and there'd be plenty this newest lady and her offspring I'm sure would love her and it is a style I've seen a lot of sold and popular to many may not be my style but I'm happy grateful this place tries to cater to as many different styles/tastes sure there's a lot of stuff I'd like to have/see which many here would hate but I'm happy I still get stuff suited to my styles from time to time and others do too. Don't think I've ever seen any DO or 3rd party not get a ton of complaints anyway

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    I'll always say something when I like something! I figure if the maker sees someone saying they really like what they do, they'll do more of it!

    I guess it's not so much that I don't like the new figure - but that we have become accustomed to getting really good discounts and/or deals when a Pro bundle hits the store. There really is nothing like that here. Your loyalty discount will apply, true - so I guess that's factored into why people who have a lot of Genesis 8 Pro bundles aren't getting a purple banner with extra discount, but there is always another deal/discount....free pro bundles, or free daz originals up to a certain amount. And the daz originals here are not only by one vendor, but you have to BUY MORE STUFF to get three of them free. 

    Understand, I am most definitely not complaining about Thorne - she does fantastic work, and fairies and fey creatures are her forte. I think it's more that the expected discounts/deals - which daz has trained us to expect -  are not happening here. 

    Mescalino said:
    scorpio said:
    Malandar said:

     

    Mescalino said:
    And when they see something they like they are not saying anything because there supposed to like it. so why say anything.

     

     

     

  • *sigh* another male no-show.

  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    edited December 2019
    I like it but wish listed it for now. Too expensive. I would be surprised if it sold well because it's redundant for what's already available. Then again, it may only need to sell 200 times for the artist to have a very good Christmas. Did Jack predict I would say that? :-)
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  • AriphaosAriphaos Posts: 66
    edited December 2019

    I like the new figure.

    I like the bundle, for once.

    I specifically reserved some store balance because I expected DAZ to push out at least two more 'Pro' bundles by the end of the month. I'm sure we've got one more coming before the New Year. Bets on if it's a boy or girl?

    However, even with the 'loyalty discount', the deal here is by far the worst for any pro bundle release DAZ has ever done for G8. I'm more tempted by this than by the multi-knapsack puzzles they sometimes do, but I think I will pass and wait for her to be in a better deal.

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  • yeah I find it odd how many take the trouble to post they won't buy a figure.

    Not that surprising.

    I've personallly found first thing I check the Daz shop. Last thing I often want is to see a new Daz Original release, but almost disappointed if I don't.

    Ditto if it's a figure I can't justify buying.

  • there were a few times where extra bonuses either discounts, freebies or other bonuses didn't appear till later on in the daz day/night sometimes the next day depending where you live so there may still be something being offered  coming

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,324
    PedroC said:
    AllenArt said:

    Girl Thorne figure=pass. Still waiting for a male figure.

    yes

     

    ╔  no male content -> no male content sales -> no good male content -> no male content sales ╗

    ╚  no male content sales <- no good male content <- no male content sales <- no male content ╝

    no male content = know malcontentment

    But I understand that white females provide the support to cover the lower sales for the other figures. Maybe Daz will give us a male for Christmas, like they did last year?

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037
    Yet I've seen things not sell well, and not a thing is mentioned on the forums..  still trying to figure that one out though!

    Probably because some stuff is so weird/bad/unusable/(insert reason why someone might not like it here) that nobody even bothers about complaining about it ^^

    Example: if not for Your post I would have not bothered about complaining about Rynne 8 here ;)

  • Yet I've seen things not sell well, and not a thing is mentioned on the forums..  still trying to figure that one out though!

    Probably because some stuff is so weird/bad/unusable/(insert reason why someone might not like it here) that nobody even bothers about complaining about it ^^

    Example: if not for Your post I would have not bothered about complaining about Rynne 8 here ;)

    I was talking about the stuff that doesn't really fall into any of those categories. Admittedely it's always subjective.. but even personally I've had products that I thought would do well but totally flopped.  Some of the best flops are those that are 'great' products. They just sometimes fall victim to other, often unkown, variables.

  • So, Mika and Tika has another sister, huh?  DAZ is really worried about the sales of male characters and older people of color characters, I see.  Oh well.  The add-ons are a bit light this time around but since this is the last year of investing in the content, I will consider getting this.

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 6,067

    Undoubtedly a lovely fae/elfin/fairy related figure, thus vaguely unrealistic.  But that's ok I generally don't buy figures for the morphs unless theynlook to add something unique. I also have something similar for pervious generation figues, so do I need teh smae with G8F to make her more realistically unrealstic or unrealistically realistic? Thus two reasons for me (who has a LOT of content) to pass.  Then we go to textures: in essence a 'single white female'.  Oh dear, I could paper the Albert Hall with similar texture maps, and have enough left over to 'upgrade' the Tate Modern ...

    I hope she sells well, for the sake of both DAZ and the PAs, but I won't be adding to the 'retirement funds' this time.

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    I thought i was in the youtube comments for a moment there.... cheeky 

    TDBAGZ said:

    "Am I a Joke to You?"

     

  • JasonSWrenchJasonSWrench Posts: 384
    edited December 2019

    I totally get that DAZ is a business, but five female characters in a row is a bit much. I buy a LOT of content...just ask my bank! I have almost all of the G8 pro-packages at this point. So, if the only way to get DAZ to stop releasing so many female characters is to stop supporting them, then I will stop buying female characters. Heck, I’ll stop supporting anything female. The argument is that females sell, so if enough us get fed up and loudly stop supporting them, maybe DAZ will change. So sorry to the artists who work on females, I’m done buying female content. Period. I may only be one person, but a few us who spend a lot of money here standing up could make a difference.

    Jason

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  • StingerStinger Posts: 324

    Another 'Today only' pro bundle offer???  no

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,971
    scorpio said:
    Malandar said:

    Insert saying about complaining and something about a new rope... Must you all be so negative?

    If a release generates such negativity Daz need to know if all they see in the forums are gushing praise posts then they won't know why things don't sell.

    I've been around the forums long enough that I can pretty much call who's gonna say what.. but your assumption is that it's not going to sell well.  When in reality things that usually get the most negative feedback on the forums are the ones which sell really well.

    Yet I've seen things not sell well, and not a thing is mentioned on the forums..  still trying to figure that one out though!

    Makes sense, really. It's not unusual for something which draws a strongly negative response from one group to get a strongly positive response from another. And for things which don't draw a strong response either way ... well, to not draw a strong response either way. Plus, we have no idea what sells well and what doesn't, aside from what the occasional vendor says. Given that the forum is a small number of users, it makes sense that a strong negative response here could be met with a more positive response by the user base at large.

    My only response about Rynne herself is that she looks like an oddly cute combination of Braatz and Barbie -- a bit more doll like in that main promo on the main shop page than you'd expect. And I wish the Sci-Fi Crew outfit had less excitingly sci-fi boots, because I like the outfit generally.

    And that's all I have to say about her.

    (I will say that five name-and-number releases in seven weeks -- and six of the last seven base character releases being female -- is certainly unusual, holiday sales or no.)

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 3,003

    No disrespect to anyone involved, but I think this is one I'm passing on.

    I've already got Mika and Tika, she doesn't have any PA characters that leap out at me, the Pro bundle doesn't have much for my normal genres, and the deal is... um, rubbish, to be honest.

    I suppose the upside is that you don't actually need to buy the Pro bundle to trigger the deal, but the choice of freebies is a list that (despite Thorne being prolific) is inevitably a lot shorter than most deals offer... and starter bundle offers... I think the only Starter Bundle I've bought rather than received as a freebie is the Anatomy Starter Bundle, because I already had almost all of the V4/M4 bases and shapes the the Anatomy Pro Bundle added to that.
    I would only very very very rarely choose to buy the Starter rather than the full Pro, and that's assuming I don't already have the full Pro bundle, which I do for most of those.

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,647

    Girl Thorne figure=pass. Still waiting for a male figure.

    +1. White girl No. 5 in a row. No comment.

  • DustRiderDustRider Posts: 2,879

    I'll have to take a look at where she ends up with all the discounts.  Seems like the figures I like come at times when cash flow is flowing out for other reasons (like Christmas, dentist/doctor, repairs,  etc.). Really like her though, yes I'm one of those that really like Thorne style characters.

    As a side note, I've passed on all of the "older" characters in this generation, and I don't think I've actually purchased one male character in the 15 years I've been here. But I've never felt the need to diss any of the releases I don't like, as I'm sure the creators put a lot of hard work into them, and others enjoy them. I'm not a big fan of fairies,  but this does have a nice scifi outfit, plus most fairy type outfits can also be used for fantasy as well.

    A big Thank You to DAZ and those involved in contributing to the release. I will be picking her up when I can afford her. 

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Tristan 8 - not

    not looking at another female until new hunk satifies the render a hunk urge

  • You know what, guys, I like her.

    I like her mouth. It looks like it's rigged for some great smirky and frowny expressions. She has a distinctive chin, too.The Kade add-on is really nice. I like the Itsy hair and the Chrysalis outfit. Putting these in my cart qualifies me for the extras, which gives me the four Rynne items and three nice freebies for $25.89. Adding the poses and expressions brings me to 29.72.

    I like this build-my-own bundle option, since I don't end up paying for items I won't use. I'll probably pull the trigger.

  • I love her. Easy buy for me
  • GreymomGreymom Posts: 1,139

    I always look forward to new Thorne characters, and Rynne is a another good fit for a couple of projects requiring a range of fae.  The pro bundle plus freebies is compelling too this time, with wishlisted freebie items included, which is rare!  The Sci-Fi outfit in the bundle helped too.

    I was disappointed that some recent Thorne characters (Sari, Ryel, and Annaku) were not part of a themed bundle!  Sari and Annaku are unique, adding very welcome ethnicity, and Ryel a male that fits with the rest.

    As Dustrider mentioned, it is not a great time of year for bundles to come out (there are always tempting items right before Christmas), but I bought a gift card in anticipation for once.

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