Jenni 8

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,642

    Glancing at the character on my phone when I first woke up, I thought she just looked like a slightly older Bridget, but now that I’ve had a little more time to look at her, I kind of like her. She’s a more diverse offering than I initially thought, although, yes, another pretty white woman. I could use all the clothes and hair on offer, which is a nice change. 

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I was really hoping for a male. We’ve had so many white females latey they blur together in my mind.

  • Diomede said:

    Anyone else get an installation error?

    That's isn't an installation error, it's probably a clash with another product using a name like Jenni or one of the other newly installed characters - check the log file (Help>Troubleshooting>View Log) and search backwards from the end for duplicate; that should hopefully tell you which is clashing which will at least narrow it down.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,398
    edited November 2019
    Diomede said:

    Anyone else get an installation error?

    That's isn't an installation error, it's probably a clash with another product using a name like Jenni or one of the other newly installed characters - check the log file (Help>Troubleshooting>View Log) and search backwards from the end for duplicate; that should hopefully tell you which is clashing which will at least narrow it down.

    OK - Thanks.  

    EDIT:  SOLVED - had to with a glute control utility, fixed with update

    Post edited by Diomede on
  • I like her, I do comics and can use a variety of middle aged characters, they can't all be 20 something.  Black Friday is coming up though, and I am leery of spending at the moment since a budget only stretches so far....  And as an aside, the phrase "soccer mom" does not mean a mother who plays soccer, rather someone who carts her prodgeny around and watches THEM play it ;)

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,398
    edited November 2019
    Diomede said:
    Diomede said:

    Anyone else get an installation error?

    That's isn't an installation error, it's probably a clash with another product using a name like Jenni or one of the other newly installed characters - check the log file (Help>Troubleshooting>View Log) and search backwards from the end for duplicate; that should hopefully tell you which is clashing which will at least narrow it down.

    OK - Thanks.  

     

     

    Seems to be eyelashes and glute control.  Not just the newly installed Jenni character, but now infects previously installed figures.  I tried uninstalling and reinstalling.  Next, I will turn my machine off and on.  That will exhaust my Studio-related maintenance skills.

    Edit:  Solved with product update to glute control

     

    2019-11-20 07:38:54.547 *** Scene Cleared ***

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.029 D:/Daz3D/Stuff For Studio/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/Hinkypunk/Kinsley/KinsleyBody.dsf (24,0): Illegal new-line in string

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.309 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(4930): Could not find parent for modifier: Genesis_8_Female_EyelashesStr8.

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.309 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1431): Failed to prepare modifier: Genesis_8_Female_EyelashesStr8!

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.315 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(4930): Could not find parent for modifier: Genesis_8_Female_EyelashesStr8.

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.315 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1431): Failed to prepare modifier: Genesis_8_Female_EyelashesStr8!

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.772 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1442): Failed to create modifier: Genesis_8_Female_EyelashesStr8!

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.785 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1442): Failed to create modifier: Genesis_8_Female_EyelashesStr8!

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.818 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7841): Could not find reference: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/3D%20Universe/G8F/ctrlMouthOH.dsf#ctrlMouthOH?value

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.818 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1451): Failed to create alias!

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.280 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking RGlute Move Side2Side 1 & CTRLMD_N_RGluteUpDownSide2Side1_n1 in /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Glute Control/RGlute Move Side2Side 1.dsf.

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.286 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis8Female

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.286 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Glute%20Control/RGlute%20Move%20Side2Side%201.dsf#RGlute%20UpDown%26Side2Side%201?value

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.286 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Glute%20Control/CTRLMD_N_RGluteUpDownSide2Side1_n1.dsf#CTRLMD_N_RGluteUpDownSide2Side1_n1?value

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.303 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking LGlute Move Side2Side 1 & CTRLMD_N_LGluteUpDownSide2Side1_n1 in /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Glute Control/LGlute Move Side2Side 1.dsf.

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.303 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis8Female

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.303 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Glute%20Control/LGlute%20Move%20Side2Side%201.dsf#LGlute%20UpDown%26Side2Side%201?value

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.307 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Glute%20Control/CTRLMD_N_LGluteUpDownSide2Side1_n1.dsf#CTRLMD_N_LGluteUpDownSide2Side1_n1?value

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.485 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5759): Could not find output property for formula: Genesis8Female:/D%3A/Trabajo/DAZ/%21%21Glutes%20Utilities/Dformer%20Glutes.duf#D-Former_1-1?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Soto/Glutes%20Utilities/PBMGlutesUtilitiesUnderCurve.dsf

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.544 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5759): Could not find output property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/SickleYield2017/UniversalBreastHelper/PBMSYUBHGiantAll_proj.dsf#PBMSYUBHGiantAll_proj?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/SickleYield2017/UniversalBreastHelper/PBMSYUBHGiantAll.dsf

    Post edited by Diomede on
  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,897

    I like her. A bit older than a lot of characters ... sort of a rugged but yet beautiful look to her. You know, having to cart the kids to the soccer game, do the laundry, dishes, cook supper, run to the grocery store and all that. 
    The clothing sets I think fit right in. The only outlier is Zsazsa. She is a beautiful character but not sure why she was placed in the pool of Jenni products, but she could be the older daughter for sure. 

    Pricing: Why 51% off instead of the usual 58% fo DO products? ALL of the DO products in this release are 51% off on my page. 

  • daveso said:

    I like her. A bit older than a lot of characters ... sort of a rugged but yet beautiful look to her. You know, having to cart the kids to the soccer game, do the laundry, dishes, cook supper, run to the grocery store and all that. 
    The clothing sets I think fit right in. The only outlier is Zsazsa. She is a beautiful character but not sure why she was placed in the pool of Jenni products, but she could be the older daughter for sure. 

    Pricing: Why 51% off instead of the usual 58% fo DO products? ALL of the DO products in this release are 51% off on my page. 

    During the PC sale you were getting 40% off DAZ Originals, it's back down to 30% now.  30% x 30% (new release = 51% off.  30% x 40% was 58% off

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,897
    daveso said:



    Pricing: Why 51% off instead of the usual 58% fo DO products? ALL of the DO products in this release are 51% off on my page. 

    During the PC sale you were getting 40% off DAZ Originals, it's back down to 30% now.  30% x 30% (new release = 51% off.  30% x 40% was 58% off

    ah ... but I'm pretty sure I've been getting 58% off for a very long time. months or longer. 

  • "2019-11-20 07:39:00.029 D:/Daz3D/Stuff For Studio/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/Hinkypunk/Kinsley/KinsleyBody.dsf (24,0): Illegal new-line in string"

    I'd deinstall Kinsley myself and see if there is an update for it.  That might well be causing the rest of the issues.

    That would be this one:  https://www.daz3d.com/hp-kinsley-for-genesis-8-female

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,416
    edited November 2019

    Alexandra and a few others already fit the soccer mom niche so I'm not sure why they made another... I do like ZsaZsa and the hairs, but the offer, even with the purple banner, is not that enticing. 

    Alexandra is a great sculpt for this age range, but her skin is much too clean and perfect.  Jenni's sculpt is actually a bit younger looking, but her skin textures are just outstanding and I'd buy Jenni just for those alone.  What I'm also impressed with is that most of the other bundled and add-on characters are also real world females of a similar non-glamour types.  

    Really, my one big disappointment is that there wasn't a discounted GC deal to tie in, as my last one is now running on fumes.                  

    Post edited by Cybersox on
  • ReneWReneW Posts: 151

    I'm disappointed.  Since the last character was female (Leisa), I was hoping for a male character.

  • melaniemelanie Posts: 806

    I was hoping for a male counterpart to Leisa.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,398

    "2019-11-20 07:39:00.029 D:/Daz3D/Stuff For Studio/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/Hinkypunk/Kinsley/KinsleyBody.dsf (24,0): Illegal new-line in string"

    I'd deinstall Kinsley myself and see if there is an update for it.  That might well be causing the rest of the issues.

    That would be this one:  https://www.daz3d.com/hp-kinsley-for-genesis-8-female

    Thank you. No longer get the error/warning messages.

    On the other hand, now Kinsley is not installed.  Will open a ticket for Kinsley / Jenni co-existence.

  • Diomede said:
    Diomede said:
    Diomede said:

    Anyone else get an installation error?

    That's isn't an installation error, it's probably a clash with another product using a name like Jenni or one of the other newly installed characters - check the log file (Help>Troubleshooting>View Log) and search backwards from the end for duplicate; that should hopefully tell you which is clashing which will at least narrow it down.

    OK - Thanks.  

     

     

    Seems to be eyelashes and glute control.  Not just the newly installed Jenni character, but now infects previously installed figures.  I tried uninstalling and reinstalling.  Next, I will turn my machine off and on.  That will exhaust my Studio-related maintenance skills.

    Edit:  Just affects previously installed G8F characters, not G8M, G3F, etc.

     

    2019-11-20 07:38:54.547 *** Scene Cleared ***

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.029 D:/Daz3D/Stuff For Studio/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/Hinkypunk/Kinsley/KinsleyBody.dsf (24,0): Illegal new-line in string

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.309 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(4930): Could not find parent for modifier: Genesis_8_Female_EyelashesStr8.

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.309 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1431): Failed to prepare modifier: Genesis_8_Female_EyelashesStr8!

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.315 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(4930): Could not find parent for modifier: Genesis_8_Female_EyelashesStr8.

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.315 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1431): Failed to prepare modifier: Genesis_8_Female_EyelashesStr8!

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.772 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1442): Failed to create modifier: Genesis_8_Female_EyelashesStr8!

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.785 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1442): Failed to create modifier: Genesis_8_Female_EyelashesStr8!

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.818 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7841): Could not find reference: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/3D%20Universe/G8F/ctrlMouthOH.dsf#ctrlMouthOH?value

    2019-11-20 07:39:00.818 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1451): Failed to create alias!

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.280 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking RGlute Move Side2Side 1 & CTRLMD_N_RGluteUpDownSide2Side1_n1 in /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Glute Control/RGlute Move Side2Side 1.dsf.

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.286 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis8Female

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.286 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Glute%20Control/RGlute%20Move%20Side2Side%201.dsf#RGlute%20UpDown%26Side2Side%201?value

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.286 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Glute%20Control/CTRLMD_N_RGluteUpDownSide2Side1_n1.dsf#CTRLMD_N_RGluteUpDownSide2Side1_n1?value

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.303 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking LGlute Move Side2Side 1 & CTRLMD_N_LGluteUpDownSide2Side1_n1 in /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Glute Control/LGlute Move Side2Side 1.dsf.

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.303 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis8Female

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.303 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Glute%20Control/LGlute%20Move%20Side2Side%201.dsf#LGlute%20UpDown%26Side2Side%201?value

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.307 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Glute%20Control/CTRLMD_N_LGluteUpDownSide2Side1_n1.dsf#CTRLMD_N_LGluteUpDownSide2Side1_n1?value

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.485 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5759): Could not find output property for formula: Genesis8Female:/D%3A/Trabajo/DAZ/%21%21Glutes%20Utilities/Dformer%20Glutes.duf#D-Former_1-1?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Soto/Glutes%20Utilities/PBMGlutesUtilitiesUnderCurve.dsf

    2019-11-20 07:39:01.544 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5759): Could not find output property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/SickleYield2017/UniversalBreastHelper/PBMSYUBHGiantAll_proj.dsf#PBMSYUBHGiantAll_proj?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/SickleYield2017/UniversalBreastHelper/PBMSYUBHGiantAll.dsf

    Ah, it's nothing to do with Jenni then, I think - there was a "bad" update for oen of Zev0'ss ets last night, try checking for updates again as I think it has been fixed. The messages not relating to duplicates are harmless.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,398
    edited November 2019

    Aha - yes, there was an update to a glute merchant resource product which I downloaded before the previous post.

     

    Thank you again.  yesyes

    Post edited by Diomede on
  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,897

    One thing I noticed, nothing is tied to having to buy a tone of add ons for the pro bundel to qualify for discounts. Pro bundle + 2 addons ... gets you the 85% off character ..BUT .. you can buy any part of the bundels or adds to get the banner discount. 

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Cybersox said:

    JAPWG (Just another pretty white girl) and the usual repeats of old, OLD, OLD offerings. (Sigh)

    And there's not a single thing in the Pro bundle or the add ons that improve on anything I already have, so I'm outa' here.

    Seriously?  She's obviously intended to be in in her late thirties/early forties and the texture work has the right degree of weathering and age spotting to show for it - there's some really great but subtle line work around the edge of the mouth and eyes, and her eyes have the right degree of puffiness. Better yet, both of the hair sets included in her Pro Bundle are a bit on the frazzled side to tie in with the Soccer Mom look, the outfits are actually age appropriate with no skimpwear to be seen anywhere and even one of the pose sets is something practical instead of the usual modeling shots.  Overall I think she's one of the most natural looking females DAZ has ever produced and the bundle is actually well thought out, so she was going in my cart even before I got a purple bar offer. 

    Edit - looking at the HD add on now - couldn't see it in the normal promos since it was always covered, but they've given her just a bit of a middle age spread and stretchmarks.  ZsaZsa seems to be the only real deviation from the soccer mom theme

    I agree, easily one of the best offerings.

    My problem is the 14 (as I know of) charactes I've bought in the recent sales I actually have to look at; then there are all the back-catalogue products I keep finding that I've had for years in some cases.

    I will get her though. If she'd triggered Mousso's new offering, I'd have probably got.

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,322

    I've still got swirlies for Jenni, ZsaZsa and the HD add-on, but the newspaper links get me to the proper pages. There's also a glitch in the link for one of the textures, although I expect those to all be straightend out over the course of the day.

    On the whole, I like the base character, and several of the add-on characters are rather distinctive. The clothing does turn out to have a theme after all. Basically various iterations of a bodysuit with something loose thrown over it. Just about all of it potentially useful, absolutely none of it impressive in any way. Which is awkward, since it's not at all enticing, but "useful" is a thing.

    Not sure how often I'll use the hairs, but again, they do look like fairly "real" hairs for real people.

    All in all, the vibe I'm getting is "suburban". An awful lot of people tend to like that.

  • Rafmer said:
    Crescent said:

    I'd love to see ZsaZsa and Zilpha without Jenni dialed in. 

    Jenni is nicely done but just doesn't stand out, nor does her bundle.  I already have similar items for most of what's offered and I have all of the male items that the purple banner is offering at 70% off.  Even with the extra discount, what I'd get with the bundle is way more than I'd pay for the one or two items I actually want.

    Hopefully we'll get some male and/or "melanin-enriched" bundles soon.

    Zsa Zsa is a stand alone character, Jenni 8 is not in its required products.

    Do we have confirmation of that?  I like her.

  • SigurdSigurd Posts: 1,094

    I am getting the exact error messages as Diomede and did not purchase Jenni and I do not have Kinsley. Just started last night. Effects all my G8F content including the base G8F figure.

  • dragotxdragotx Posts: 1,147
    Sigurd said:

    I am getting the exact error messages as Diomede and did not purchase Jenni and I do not have Kinsley. Just started last night. Effects all my G8F content including the base G8F figure.

    According to Richard, it looks like there was a bad update to one of Zev0's products that has already been updated and fixed.  Try checking for updates again

  • James_HJames_H Posts: 1,094
    azoohouse said:
    Muneman said:

    Alas, the purple banner discount seemed super enticing up until you get to explore it and see how they separate things out. It's been a super long time since you pick up a new Pro Bundle and smuggle an extra discounted one as the freebie. 

    I agree. For me, the excitement ended when I saw that I had ZERO "Select Genesis 8 Male Items" available to purchase at 70% off. I got a feeling of regret for overspending already. 

    Same here and the purple banner only brings Jenni 8 Pro down to about $40 ($39.68) with no extra discounts being available. There is nothing there I really need; so, it will be the first Pro 8 bundle I've passed on.

    Not a great deal, I agree.

  • RakkerRakker Posts: 37

    Zsazsa is stand alone, Jenni 8 not required, not for the body nor for the head.

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,816

    She has strong "Modern Mom" vibe about her, especially with the Soccer Mom Outfit and Juggling Life poses. :)

  • Hello,

    here are my two cents: what I liked about other pro bundles was that they were diverse in genre. What I mean by that: many bundles had something contemporary, something sci-fi, something fantasy. This pro bundle seems to have just one topic: mom in her 40s. For a pro bundle that is too flat for my taste. The pro bundle before, Leisa, had the very same problem. Therefore I skip both.

    This is of course just my opinion. Oh, and I apologize for my non-native english :-)

    Best regards

  • QuixotryQuixotry Posts: 919
    Rakker said:

    Zsazsa is stand alone, Jenni 8 not required, not for the body nor for the head.

    She's lovely, but I wonder why they put her in Jenni's bundles. I don't think I've seen other Daz Original bundles include anything but characters based on the new shape. I could have just missed them, though.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,368
    Quixotry said:
    Rakker said:

    Zsazsa is stand alone, Jenni 8 not required, not for the body nor for the head.

    She's lovely, but I wonder why they put her in Jenni's bundles. I don't think I've seen other Daz Original bundles include anything but characters based on the new shape. I could have just missed them, though.

    Zsazsa belies the fiction of the usefulness of add-on characters in Pro Bundles. They could easily have replaced her with Zilpha or Malin, the two other DO buyouts that require Jenni 8.

  • What is the hair being used in the main ZsazSa picture (loads of very blonde hair falling over one eye)?  It isn't any of the ones mentioned on the additional products used in promo images.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,487

    Well, Zsazsa renders wonderfully. I did check shapes used and, no sign of Jenni 8. Her skin is lovely and if you do children or teens, she would be useful for them.

    I have also rendered DD June, DE Nellwyn, Jenni 8 so far. I think all their skins are great and June has an interesting Middle Eastern or European vibe to her.

    Also, most of the makeup that has been release with the DAZ 8 females, I have ignored. With Jenni 8 I used one of them and played with the others, finding them really close to the makeup I wore before becoming allergic to all makeup. I really wish some of the choices others provided included non-metallic shimmery versions, for office wear or things like church, school meetings, shopping... 

    Jenni 8 is great if you need a mom of a teenager, a senior officer in the military or first responder force, politician, professor, teacher, doctor, lawyer or judge... Now, maybe some clothes for those professions (men and women)?

    Again, my thanks to all on the team who brought her package together.

    Mary

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