Still No Decent Moden Buses for the Daz Store...
sjaammons
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https://www.daz3d.com/shanty-bus-house ...Yet we get things like this? LOL
I'm not that salty, I know Rendo recently got a decent modern bus, it's just hilarious with all of the bus stops, pose sets, and stuff like this there isn't an actual 3D Modern bus on this store. Like its such an odd thing with this store of all things. XD
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There is a free modern bus attached to this forum post. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/4899231/#Comment_4899231
Although it is in Carrara format, you can easily export it as an obj and choose (Daz Full Scene) format, then import it to Daz Studio choosing (Carrara format).
Stezza is very generous and an excellent modeler.
DAZ has never made any sense... they sell a complete baseball field but no baseball uniforms. :/ For what it's worth, in a pinch there are some fairly nice low-rez buses included as part of Stonemason's Urban Sprawl 3.
..there are good bus models but the free ones are usually in Max format (which is proprietary) or the commercial ones are on the pricey Pro sites.
I wish my modelling skills would be better as I would create buses like these:
There are two PA baseball fields (Collective3D & 3D Universe) that I know of but no DAZ 3D DAZ Originals baseball fields. If there is please link to it for us please. There is also one baseball uniform for Toon Generations by 3D Universe.
...there used to be a baseball uniform in the store here but I believe it was for M3 (as well as rather expensive) and for some reason was removed.
The only one I remember was at Poserworld, but it was for M4 (and also, inexplicably, pink.)
I referred to the 3D Collective one, as the context of the thread is clearily refering to the DAZ store, not DAZ Originals. As for the 3D Universe product, it's really hard to count that given that it only fits the now ancient toon figures series and is so unrealistic in design as to be unusable outside of a toon setting even if you could fit it to a modern figure.
It's not an "odd thing" with the store. If no PA feels like making a bus, or <insert whatever here> then it won't get made. If someone's cajoled or coerced into making one, it will probably have the consistency of doodoo, and it won't sell, and the prophecy that it was a wasted effort will have been fulfilled.
To be fair, unless someone's a dedicated bus spotter, and no one cares about them enough to write a decent Wikipedia article, one bus or maybe two is all you need. And there's a new one to buy at Rendo, and it's not horrible, so it's not a problem if Daz doesn't have any PAs who want to make one. And I'm speaking as someone who's taken a city bus to work just about every day of my working life. Fun fact: Most buses in any given urban transit system look pretty much the same apart from advertising and the occasional weird paint job, and that's mostly to keep maintenance simpler and costs down. We have thousands of buses here in Montreal, but only 2 basic models: one jointed, and one not. So there's not even much benefit to having a great variety.
I sure am glad that you're not the one running the store. And you are not qualified to decide what I need or don't need.
..that is why I posted images four of the most more common types historical and contemporary. Could have included one more (below)
If Daz had native .3ds and .lwo file import, there are a number of nice well detailed freebies available to suit one's needs/scenes.
The people who "run the store" aren't the ones who decide what thing gets made. They can reject stuff that's not well made, or stuff there's too much of. It's the people who make the things who decide what gets made.
Now, I'm guessing that Daz might hint behind the PA curtain at stuff that the store could use, and they obviously organize stuff for the pro-bundles, but there hasn't been an identifiable "bus driver" base character like Ralph Kramden - it's been a while since a bus driver has figured prominently in popular culture - so there hasn't been a burning need for Daz to beg for buses to be constructed. And like I said, as long as it's not something that Daz will reject for the reasons above, PAs will make whatever they like to make and/or they believe will be worth their while to produce. Neither Daz or the PAs are doing this for charity.
And anyway, if you can't find something at Daz, there are other markets. Like I was looking for safety pins the other day and couldn't find any at Daz. I found over 3 dozen of them listed at Turbosquid. They sell dozens if not hundreds of buses, too, including an improbably large number of double-decker buses of the type that's been available at Daz for a long time. You can get a decentish FBX city bus for around 10 bucks, so they're not even all crazy expensive. Knowing that, what incentive is there for Daz's PAs to take a chance on spending a week making another one, when what really sells is women's clothing with necklines that go down to the navel?
Now by all means, ask for a bus to be made. I'd love to pick one up for $1.99. But if it doesn't get made, there's probably a reason. Like that I wanna pay $1.99 for it.
And being British i would like to see a modern British style bus designed to drive on the correct side of the road, come to that I would just like to see a few left hand drive cars rather than everything American designed; goes for buildings too: and I'm glad some posters aren't running the show either I would hate to see us go backwards and all the advances DS has made thrown to the wind.
...many city transit bus drivers I see today (at least here in the States) rarely wear the traditional uniform that the character Ralph did back in the day. If you need one, kitbashing it from say, a police or pilot's uniform is just a matter of retexturing it.(and those are available here as well as over at Rendo). I even did so for one scene I created.
I've perused TS and other "pro" sites and the prices for the most part are out of line for the average hobbyist. Also, many are in formats that are not compatible with Daz and thus required converting in another programme. Realistic ones often include restrictive use licences. The inexpensive ones tend to be low poly and even low quality (no rigging, poor smoothing of curved surfaces, etc).
Again, If I had the modelling skills I would create some myself, even if I released them as freebies over on ShareCG just so we had something that could be readily used in Daz/Poser without having to convert them.
The basic request was made because we have so many different bus stops but not even any halfway "normal"/realistic buses to serve them.
...looks good for UK scenes.
Not really It must be an Australian bus. Our buses the exit door is in the middle of the bus if they have one. On the smaller buses the front door is two way.
..well considering the dearth of buses that can be readily used in Daz, it's better than nothing. Not all buses in the UK are double deckers.
Though the door at the rear is a bit odd.
Sorry, but I've never seen a bus here in Australia with a rear door like that, except for the old double-decker buses (which were a close match to https://www.daz3d.com/vintage-london-double-decker-bus except for the colours)
...streetcars used to have doors at each end
Doesn't look like a UK bus at all to me. European maybe, but it is a right hand drive, so that rules that out as well.
...Japan? Hong Kong?
I've been in buses like that, but they're usually airport shuttle buses that take you around the inside of an airport, to airport parking or to the rental car areas. Those are designed for situations where there's no fare to be paid and the goal is to get people on and off the bus as quickly as possible. A lot of them now have three sets of doors, one at the front, one in the middle and one at that back. Never seen them used as a regular city bus, though.
..ah that's right.
Those are four _wildly_ different busses. :)
...yeah four different eras of transit buses from the 1950s to present.