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A slight veer to the side.
How about Optane memory? Does it suffer the same limited # of writes problem as NAND based SSDs do? Optane memory is super fast and seems to be touted as good for cache usage. But if they're going to poop out after a limited number of writes (which being used as cache would be likely) is it worth it?
I just had another one bite the dust..
It does have a limit. It's pretty high, so is NAND flash's write limit.
Optane cache drives are of very limited utility, if you have a SSD boot drive you will see no benefit from one. Do keep in mind that Optane only caches the boot drive.
There is no "best". I've had Crucial, Samsung, Intel, and who knows what else. All are fine. It's okay to shop on price.
I don't recall ever seeing WD SSDs, but if you find one at a good price with a good return/warranty policy, go ahead and get it.
Like kind of WAY outdated. I have 10TB drives in my NAS and that's only because I didn't want to spring for the 16 TB versions just yet. When I need to upgrade the NAS, then the old 10 TB drives will go into service as my backup drives.
Now for SSDs, the 2TB capacity has been available for the last what, 3 or 4 years? This year I put a 4TB one in my laptop. But you said "hard drives" in your original post, so that's what I'm going off of. They are available in super huge capacities, even for consumers; and much bigger for commercial use in data centers.
Optane is an awful solution. It's a bandaid for a problem that I'm not sure even exists. People, please avoid any desktop or laptop systems that have Optane.
Avoid Optane. And don't fret the write endurance either. In every case, I have had to swap out my SSDs for larger capacities long before I even saw a 1% reduction in life expectancy.
I asked because, I'm rebuilding an old PC and I have a new motherboard, new powersupply, new CPU, new faster RAM, but the original 2 hard drives and case. The motherboard has double the memory, twice the clock rate, and three times the number of cores(6), but I haven't invested in an SSD yet (budget ran short) but Amazon did have some "renewed" 16GB Optane drives and the new motherboard supports them as cache for the "C" drive. The price of $17 was right even for just curiosity, so I splurged. When I catch up with my budget I will be getting an SSD of some sort (looking hard at 1TB NVMe) and maybe an additional two RAM sticks. And a better video card too, someday, but no rush, I'm not into IRay. Budget is my current limiting factor. Still waiting for the new CPU to arrive, but everything else is ready.
I'm going to experiment with the Optane memory and see if it's worth investing for a bigger one or just put my money into SSD.
In that scenario the Optane drive should give you a big bump in performance, assuming you open and use the same programs regularly. I assume you have an idea how to install a m.2 drive, right?
Since he seems dead-set on it, this is a good point. M.2s have to be inserted and attached with a set-screw. It's easy, but since you're touching the motherboard componenets, be sure to discharge your static electricity first. After that, they just appear as a hard drive.
I love the M.2 form factor, as long as it is not limiting for capacity. Right now I have two 2 TB M.2's in my laptop. But not Optane. Still saying don't do Optane, but you can do whatever you want to.
It can be a little finicky getting the set screw in. I'm honestly surprised at how fast teh m.2 form factor has taken off. 2 years ago when I built my Ryzen system it was very hard to find any MoBo that had 2 or more PCIE m.2's. I just built a system for a client on X570 and it had more m.2 connectors than SATA.
Yep! Miniaturization has allowed this. The M.2 standard, being slightly larger than a stick of gum, will one day mostly eliminate the need for cable-connected storage (internal and external) or vertically-oriented PCIE storage cards. And with laptop form-factor GPUs eliminating the need for vertically-oriented PCIE GPUs, I think in 10 years or less we'll see a trend toward very flat system boards that include everything we need. Still upgradable, but very flat and compact. Not unlike rack/blade-mounted servers, only flatter.
meh, just buy seagate barracuda's and use smart monitoring, or seatool's for SSD/nVME's, and buy terabyte disk image if you don't care to much for a raid setup and wasting a whole drive for nothing much
Um..., it goes in through the Floppy slot. Right?
You'd be surprised. I had a customer destroy an entire system because he lost a screw trying to install one and just left it to rattle around in the case.
Not a problem, it'll just rattle around until it finally gets electro-welded into some place and the rattling will stop. (along with the rest of the computer)
Wonder if I am related, I killed the PCIE lane on my other PC that way pretty much, was a metal nozzle I lost off my compressor but I ended up buying another computer to use my 980ti for rendering as I no longer could mount a graphics card in that one having broken the other lane too a few years before removing a card.Loos metal and exposed traces, wiring on circuit boards, do not mix. I may have to get a sticker that explains that and put it on the side panels of my builds.