Forest Bundle?
nonesuch00
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Hey, do any of you know in the Forest Bundle are billboards or modeled trees & plants? Thanks.
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Its modelled trees and plants but if i remember correctly, rendering at the moment so can't check, the trees load as one and can't be moved very easily.
AFAIK they are modelled trees and I also seem to remember that when they first came out one needed a fairly robust computer to use them, but that was a few years back. (2012 the first pack came out.
Oh, OK. Thanks. That's making it easier to decide.
I'm looking for the best autumn leaf scene available. I have Harpwood Trail so maybe add the Mallard Pond to it. The Forest Bundle & the Harpwood/Mallard Pond are very nice.
I use that bundle (or at least the three parts I own) fairly frequently. It can be a bit tough to render since they're all modeled (and individual) trees. It takes a bit to load too, since the pre-loads don't use much instancing (as I recall). But you can't beat it for the versatility it has built into it. If you load it up and are willing to take the time to gut it and rebuild it to something more suitable to your machine, it might work out fairly well. Especially since it uses a scene layout bigger than what most scenes demand.
Adding that I also now remember what scorpio said, and have just taken the bundle back out of my cart.
It actually renders better in Poser than DAZ studio, I do know that and Carrara takes an hour to load it!
while the trees are one set it can be chopped up in a modeller, its what I had to do to use it in Carrara with replicators, you might be able to do that also in Poser for Bryce.
Now you've got me doing a "shall I shan't I bit. I do remember not buying it when it first came out but I do have a better PC now.
Not all the trees add as one single unit but they do add as several groups of trees. Each group of trees can be moved but not the individual trees.
Can you remember are the leaves driven by trans maps?
yes sady, thats the big problem but it has two resolutions
even so iray no way you can use GPU even likely with one of those new cards so 3Delight actually faster and Poser faster than 3delight
in Bryce though you would probably face the same issues as me in Carrara so I would not recomend it for that, only Poser
OK I loaded a couple of groups from Forest and it looks like both the leaves and the needles are transmapped.
What problem do you have with GPU renders? Here is a 6 minute render of the autumn preload (just loaded selected camera 2 and switched to sun-sky environment). That's in DS 4.12 beta using my RTX 2080ti (But I also used it on my 1080 and 1080ti. It uses only 3.3 Gb of the card during rendering.
Ciao
TD
LOL RTX 2080ti
I guess that can handle it
it never fit on my 6GB 980ti though so how you got it to be under 4GB a mystery to me
Thanks
Ah well Iray and GPU usage is no problem to someone who runs an AMD system with a Radeon GPU. I slso use Poser rather than Daz Studio, and that is only as a plug in for Bryce.
There is a pack in the bundle with individual trees and other props; it's the 'Forest Elements'.
Oh my gosh, that is gorgeous. You've made up my mind. The Mallard Pond & Japanese Alley will have to wait.
Don't know. I have also used it on my old GTX 1080 which has 8GB and no no issues even though there I was limited to just the forrest. The current setup handles a nice scene. maybe it's the combo of DS4.12 and RTX. Here is an example with hardware report during rendering. Autumn Forrest (default load and materials, those could be improved as they are 3DL) plus the CentaurMax in HD with some jewlery and a G8F with clothes. I also added an atmosphere dome and swithced to Sun/Sky environment. If you look at the full size screeenshot, you can see that it uses 9.3Gb on the RTX2080ti (I usually reserve the GTX1080ti for the displays). This one rendered for ~90minutes. Much slower due to the additional stuff and the atmosphere.
Ciao
TD
Interesting, I've used Forest Superior on my 6gb 970M with one figure?? Maybe because I'm running Win7?
Sadly I cannot test it now because my 980ti died last week
everything is CPU now if I use iray on my crappy replacement card
it may also make a difference which resolution you use, I don't have the seasons either
There is a Standard Resolution and a High Resolution. I have used both in renders, CPU only, and I have also used the ground, grass and trees separately in other renders. Sod's Law I can't find any images at the moment where I used them
thanks for the example.
@nonesuch00
I started a render for the Autumn forest and then forgot about it :) This is the HD set.
2019-09-03 10:38:28.378 Total Rendering Time: 17 hours 40.88 seconds
Stopped at 83% done CPU only.
Click on image for full size.
This one I did a while ago using Winter. No idea how long it took as I wasn't taking note of the render times then.
Click on image for full size.
This doesn't probably help much, but I have an old (DS 4.6) 3Delight render from 2013 ...
Wow! Those are great. Ultimately I spent my September budget though on the NYC Brownstones, NYC Stores, Crazy Baker Bundle & the Mallard Pond because the discounts were higher than the Forest Bundle discount. It was a tough choice until the Crazy Baker Bundle went on sale & then it was easy choice and the Mallard Pond was the only autumn textures in budget and that I had the product prerequisites for. I will have to buy the Forest Bundle in October. I definitely need that set. I'm starting to finally get a a rounded out set of environment to render with. I do need some of those Edo & Japanese, Moroccan, & Italian cities too.
I could do with places on the sea in NW Europe like Stavanger or Wexford. Also Indian cities like Jaipur. We don't need one from every country as they can look somewhat alike in real life except for the language used, maybe we need linguistic texture sets or the language part done in L.I.E.
thank