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asdf123

Thoughts on the full build specs, for Daz? I might go air cooler, via Noctua or a Dark Rock. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbBMq4

outrider42

Looks fine to me, that's better than 95% of the people here.

You probably could air cool that if you wanted. I have that same case, its good. I have 2 1080tis and they stay under 70C with MSI Afterburner controlling the GPU fans when rendering. So I would expect a 2080ti to run a similar temp with that fan curve. I don't use the CPU during rendering, so it stays cool. Odds are that even the 3900x likely wont help render times a lot, its just the way Iray works. But that CPU will be a champ for many other processes, including pic editing and other creative software.

Some might say the 1000 Watt power supply is overkill, but it does allow plenty of headroom if you wish to add a 2nd GPU at a later time like I did. Its not like the PC will ever actually use 1000 Watts and run up your electric bill.

asdf123

outrider42 said:

Looks fine to me, that's better than 95% of the people here.

You probably could air cool that if you wanted. I have that same case, its good. I have 2 1080tis and they stay under 70C with MSI Afterburner controlling the GPU fans when rendering. So I would expect a 2080ti to run a similar temp with that fan curve. I don't use the CPU during rendering, so it stays cool. Odds are that even the 3900x likely wont help render times a lot, its just the way Iray works. But that CPU will be a champ for many other processes, including pic editing and other creative software.

Some might say the 1000 Watt power supply is overkill, but it does allow plenty of headroom if you wish to add a 2nd GPU at a later time like I did. Its not like the PC will ever actually use 1000 Watts and run up your electric bill.

Thanks! Ya, that's why I'm doing the 1,000watt. Is there a benefit to doing a top of the line 2080TI vs a more vanilla?

AelfinMaegik

newoski said:

outrider42 said:

Looks fine to me, that's better than 95% of the people here.

You probably could air cool that if you wanted. I have that same case, its good. I have 2 1080tis and they stay under 70C with MSI Afterburner controlling the GPU fans when rendering. So I would expect a 2080ti to run a similar temp with that fan curve. I don't use the CPU during rendering, so it stays cool. Odds are that even the 3900x likely wont help render times a lot, its just the way Iray works. But that CPU will be a champ for many other processes, including pic editing and other creative software.

Some might say the 1000 Watt power supply is overkill, but it does allow plenty of headroom if you wish to add a 2nd GPU at a later time like I did. Its not like the PC will ever actually use 1000 Watts and run up your electric bill.

 

Thanks! Ya, that's why I'm doing the 1,000watt. Is there a benefit to doing a top of the line 2080TI vs a more vanilla?

i use two of these vanilla and they seem just fine https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-2281-KR

outrider42

The top of the line should have a better cooler and is higher overclocked out of the box. In this case, where you may be running renders for hours, a better cooler sounds logical to me. But what what I would do is look up a review round up of different 2080tis to see how well they stack up against each other. Like, is that cooler really better than the others? 

I will say I have a personal fondness for EVGA because of their customer service. They also offer extended warranties, for 5 or 10 years from purchase. The 10 year warranty is absurd, but at least you know you will be covered for as long as you could possibly use the card. Plus that 10 year warranty is only $60 for a 2080ti, which is stupidly cheap for that length of time.

asdf123

outrider42 said:

The top of the line should have a better cooler and is higher overclocked out of the box. In this case, where you may be running renders for hours, a better cooler sounds logical to me. But what what I would do is look up a review round up of different 2080tis to see how well they stack up against each other. Like, is that cooler really better than the others? 

I will say I have a personal fondness for EVGA because of their customer service. They also offer extended warranties, for 5 or 10 years from purchase. The 10 year warranty is absurd, but at least you know you will be covered for as long as you could possibly use the card. Plus that 10 year warranty is only $60 for a 2080ti, which is stupidly cheap for that length of time.

The Aorus reviews are glowing

outrider42 said:

The top of the line should have a better cooler and is higher overclocked out of the box. In this case, where you may be running renders for hours, a better cooler sounds logical to me. But what what I would do is look up a review round up of different 2080tis to see how well they stack up against each other. Like, is that cooler really better than the others? 

I will say I have a personal fondness for EVGA because of their customer service. They also offer extended warranties, for 5 or 10 years from purchase. The 10 year warranty is absurd, but at least you know you will be covered for as long as you could possibly use the card. Plus that 10 year warranty is only $60 for a 2080ti, which is stupidly cheap for that length of time.

Between two 2080 TIs and 32GB 3200 ram OR one 2080 TI and 64GB 3200, which would be better?

AelfinMaegik

well i mean, the aorus is 1300. the evga is 1000. two of those evga cards is better than one aorus. and you save $600 which buys a lot of memory...

kenshaw011267

newoski said:

outrider42 said:

Looks fine to me, that's better than 95% of the people here.

You probably could air cool that if you wanted. I have that same case, its good. I have 2 1080tis and they stay under 70C with MSI Afterburner controlling the GPU fans when rendering. So I would expect a 2080ti to run a similar temp with that fan curve. I don't use the CPU during rendering, so it stays cool. Odds are that even the 3900x likely wont help render times a lot, its just the way Iray works. But that CPU will be a champ for many other processes, including pic editing and other creative software.

Some might say the 1000 Watt power supply is overkill, but it does allow plenty of headroom if you wish to add a 2nd GPU at a later time like I did. Its not like the PC will ever actually use 1000 Watts and run up your electric bill.

 

Thanks! Ya, that's why I'm doing the 1,000watt. Is there a benefit to doing a top of the line 2080TI vs a more vanilla?

Not in DS. The case you've chosen has great airflow so a more standard card with a normal cooler will be sufficient. The factory overclock will do little to help rendering and I'm not sure the extra cost would be worth it.

As to an air cooler vs. the AIO, the Ryzen 3000's turbo a lot like recent Nvidia GPU's in that the cooler the chip the higher it will boost. If you have the budget and do anything CPU intensive then the AIO should give a longer boost at a higher clock than all but the most powerful air coolers.

asdf123

kenshaw011267 said:

newoski said:

outrider42 said:

Looks fine to me, that's better than 95% of the people here.

You probably could air cool that if you wanted. I have that same case, its good. I have 2 1080tis and they stay under 70C with MSI Afterburner controlling the GPU fans when rendering. So I would expect a 2080ti to run a similar temp with that fan curve. I don't use the CPU during rendering, so it stays cool. Odds are that even the 3900x likely wont help render times a lot, its just the way Iray works. But that CPU will be a champ for many other processes, including pic editing and other creative software.

Some might say the 1000 Watt power supply is overkill, but it does allow plenty of headroom if you wish to add a 2nd GPU at a later time like I did. Its not like the PC will ever actually use 1000 Watts and run up your electric bill.

 

Thanks! Ya, that's why I'm doing the 1,000watt. Is there a benefit to doing a top of the line 2080TI vs a more vanilla?

Not in DS. The case you've chosen has great airflow so a more standard card with a normal cooler will be sufficient. The factory overclock will do little to help rendering and I'm not sure the extra cost would be worth it.

As to an air cooler vs. the AIO, the Ryzen 3000's turbo a lot like recent Nvidia GPU's in that the cooler the chip the higher it will boost. If you have the budget and do anything CPU intensive then the AIO should give a longer boost at a higher clock than all but the most powerful air coolers.

I won't be overclocking. Stick with airbcooling?

kenshaw011267

newoski said:

kenshaw011267 said:

newoski said:

outrider42 said:

Looks fine to me, that's better than 95% of the people here.

You probably could air cool that if you wanted. I have that same case, its good. I have 2 1080tis and they stay under 70C with MSI Afterburner controlling the GPU fans when rendering. So I would expect a 2080ti to run a similar temp with that fan curve. I don't use the CPU during rendering, so it stays cool. Odds are that even the 3900x likely wont help render times a lot, its just the way Iray works. But that CPU will be a champ for many other processes, including pic editing and other creative software.

Some might say the 1000 Watt power supply is overkill, but it does allow plenty of headroom if you wish to add a 2nd GPU at a later time like I did. Its not like the PC will ever actually use 1000 Watts and run up your electric bill.

 

Thanks! Ya, that's why I'm doing the 1,000watt. Is there a benefit to doing a top of the line 2080TI vs a more vanilla?

Not in DS. The case you've chosen has great airflow so a more standard card with a normal cooler will be sufficient. The factory overclock will do little to help rendering and I'm not sure the extra cost would be worth it.

As to an air cooler vs. the AIO, the Ryzen 3000's turbo a lot like recent Nvidia GPU's in that the cooler the chip the higher it will boost. If you have the budget and do anything CPU intensive then the AIO should give a longer boost at a higher clock than all but the most powerful air coolers.

 

I won't be overclocking. Stick with airbcooling?

It depends, Do you do anything that would use all the cores/threads and would benefit from higher clock speeds? 3Delight rendering or Blender for instance? If so,and your budget can absorb the extra cost the AIO will let the 3900X turbo to a higher speed for longer. This is not manual overclocking but the XFR that Ryzen does out of the box. The Ryzen 3000 CPU's have taken it the extreme. As a matter of fact it is pretty much pointless to manually OC these chips.

nonesuch00

I think the nVidia video card you chose can render ray tracing real time so I would save money by getting a cheaper CPU to tide you over until they, hopefully, release 16 core (32 thread) or 32 core (64 thread) CPUs meant for consumer level PCs. Given that you're spending $1750 though you probably won't have any trouble later upgrading CPUs in any event.

bk007dragon

nonesuch00 said:

I think the nVidia video card you chose can render ray tracing real time so I would save money by getting a cheaper CPU to tide you over until they, hopefully, release 16 core (32 thread) or 32 core (64 thread) CPUs meant for consumer level PCs. Given that you're spending $1750 though you probably won't have any trouble later upgrading CPUs in any event.

That price in his list is without the graphics card.

nonesuch00

bk007dragon said:

nonesuch00 said:

I think the nVidia video card you chose can render ray tracing real time so I would save money by getting a cheaper CPU to tide you over until they, hopefully, release 16 core (32 thread) or 32 core (64 thread) CPUs meant for consumer level PCs. Given that you're spending $1750 though you probably won't have any trouble later upgrading CPUs in any event.

That price in his list is without the graphics card.

Well then even more so, $150 savings on a CPU isn't a big deal when the graphics card you are buying costs almost as much as all the other computer components combined.

asdf123

nonesuch00 said:

bk007dragon said:

nonesuch00 said:

I think the nVidia video card you chose can render ray tracing real time so I would save money by getting a cheaper CPU to tide you over until they, hopefully, release 16 core (32 thread) or 32 core (64 thread) CPUs meant for consumer level PCs. Given that you're spending $1750 though you probably won't have any trouble later upgrading CPUs in any event.

That price in his list is without the graphics card.

Well then even more so, $150 savings on a CPU isn't a big deal when the graphics card you are buying costs almost as much as all the other computer components combined.

Ha, yes. Total spend right now is about $3,500-$4,500 depending upon two or one 2080 TI and whether I end up AIO or Noctua D15. D15 would mean I can't really upgrade RAM easily, later, so... Biting the bullet as soon as the 3900x are in stock again

outrider42

Remember you can always add a second GPU at a later time, as well as RAM. You can buy one 2080ti and see if that is good enough for you, same with 32GB of RAM. Maybe you don't need 64GB of RAM, or maybe one 2080ti will fast enough to suit you. These things are flexible. Personally I think 32GB is fine, but that's just me. That's what I have in my machine.

Do you mean that the Noctua D15 might block RAM slots? Then use low profile RAM. And actually, I hear many people are pleased with Ryzen's included coolers in the box. You may not need a Noctua.

That case has decent airflow, just make sure to NOT use any plastic cover on the front if the case includes one. That will choke the air intake. Also, if you wish you can buy another case fan for the top of the case. I did that for mine, and it seems to work well. Honestly I don't think it makes a huge difference, but I think it does help the CPU vent more out the top considering how the fans on my two 1080tis push air down and up the side case. Actually, I am wondering if orienting the CPU cooler to push air up would help or not in my case, though temps are already well within the acceptable range. My EVGA tops out at about 68C and my MSI tops out at 61 during longer renders. But a lot of times my MSI will be below 60 for a long while before tipping over 60. For gaming the temps might get higher, but that's gaming. My CPU stits in the low 50's during a render, as I am not using it to render but it does stay active.

kenshaw011267

Changing air direction takes energy. Which means slower air flow and/or more heat generated in the case, since you'd just be reorienting the fan it would just be slower air. Which would generally mean higher temps on your CPU. You probably don't even need the top fan at all. Those big intakes will push enough air in and the positive pressure created by having only the rear fan and PSU fan as exhaust should server to reduce the dust in the case and since the airflow would mostly be straight through the thermals should be fine. I've built a half dozen systems in the H500 and never added a fan and thermals, even on gaming systems running heavy OC's, are fine.

asdf123

outrider42 said:

Remember you can always add a second GPU at a later time, as well as RAM. You can buy one 2080ti and see if that is good enough for you, same with 32GB of RAM. Maybe you don't need 64GB of RAM, or maybe one 2080ti will fast enough to suit you. These things are flexible. Personally I think 32GB is fine, but that's just me. That's what I have in my machine.

Do you mean that the Noctua D15 might block RAM slots? Then use low profile RAM. And actually, I hear many people are pleased with Ryzen's included coolers in the box. You may not need a Noctua.

That case has decent airflow, just make sure to NOT use any plastic cover on the front if the case includes one. That will choke the air intake. Also, if you wish you can buy another case fan for the top of the case. I did that for mine, and it seems to work well. Honestly I don't think it makes a huge difference, but I think it does help the CPU vent more out the top considering how the fans on my two 1080tis push air down and up the side case. Actually, I am wondering if orienting the CPU cooler to push air up would help or not in my case, though temps are already well within the acceptable range. My EVGA tops out at about 68C and my MSI tops out at 61 during longer renders. But a lot of times my MSI will be below 60 for a long while before tipping over 60. For gaming the temps might get higher, but that's gaming. My CPU stits in the low 50's during a render, as I am not using it to render but it does stay active.

Thanks! What fan did you add on the top? Another 200mm?

outrider42

Yes, its the same fan as the two up front. It certainly adds more light to the back of the case, LOL. It was either $15 or $20 on Amazon. I don't have specifics, but I think it dropped the temps by 1 or 2 degrees, so its not a big difference, but it is doing something.

kenshaw011267 said:

Changing air direction takes energy. Which means slower air flow and/or more heat generated in the case, since you'd just be reorienting the fan it would just be slower air. Which would generally mean higher temps on your CPU. You probably don't even need the top fan at all. Those big intakes will push enough air in and the positive pressure created by having only the rear fan and PSU fan as exhaust should server to reduce the dust in the case and since the airflow would mostly be straight through the thermals should be fine. I've built a half dozen systems in the H500 and never added a fan and thermals, even on gaming systems running heavy OC's, are fine.

Don't you think the air is already changing direction as it is? You have air moving upward while the CPU fan is pushing it toward the back. The GPUs don't blow much air out the back, rather they blow it down, a lot of it gets reflected upward. So there is a little bit of a battle going on here with this air from the GPUs and the air from the front case fans. Its a bit different from the norm because there are 2 GPUs here, with 4 fans between them that move at very high speed during a render. So the force of air moving up/down is quite strong here, more than having a single GPU would. The one downside of 200mm fans is they don't generate a lot of force like a smaller fan can. My old case with four 80mm fans in the front moved even more air than these two 200mm fans. It was loud when they were cranked up, but they were very effective, and actually kept my GPUs cooler than the H500 does. My GPUs absolutely never broke 70C in that old case, no matter the task. But that case was old and hard to work in.

Its obviously not a big deal, I posted my temps and they are still quite fine. I doubt I would actually try it because of that. And I'm not sure the cooler would clear my RAM. It would be real tight.

kenshaw011267

GPU fans aren't all that strong. They are fairly low diameter and they have a lowish fan density. Actually it may have felt like 4 80mm fans moved more air but they couldn't. The issue is the amount of air moved isn't linear with the increase in area of the fans so you will feel less force but if you measure CFM 2 80's don't move as much as 1 200 at the same rpm.

Looking at the build I'm betting the difference in GPU temps is because the older case was less deep front to back and therefore there was simply less air to move to cool the system. It is the tradeoff for having more room to work in.

asdf123

kenshaw011267 said:

GPU fans aren't all that strong. They are fairly low diameter and they have a lowish fan density. Actually it may have felt like 4 80mm fans moved more air but they couldn't. The issue is the amount of air moved isn't linear with the increase in area of the fans so you will feel less force but if you measure CFM 2 80's don't move as much as 1 200 at the same rpm.

Looking at the build I'm betting the difference in GPU temps is because the older case was less deep front to back and therefore there was simply less air to move to cool the system. It is the tradeoff for having more room to work in.

For the H500 case w Noctua D15, would you do two EVGA Ultra XC 2080 TI or two ASUS Strix 2080 TI? Strix have the best cooling, but only a two year warranty vs. EVGA 3 year w upsell to 10 year

kenshaw011267

newoski said:

kenshaw011267 said:

GPU fans aren't all that strong. They are fairly low diameter and they have a lowish fan density. Actually it may have felt like 4 80mm fans moved more air but they couldn't. The issue is the amount of air moved isn't linear with the increase in area of the fans so you will feel less force but if you measure CFM 2 80's don't move as much as 1 200 at the same rpm.

Looking at the build I'm betting the difference in GPU temps is because the older case was less deep front to back and therefore there was simply less air to move to cool the system. It is the tradeoff for having more room to work in.

 

For the H500 case w Noctua D15, would you do two EVGA Ultra XC 2080 TI or two ASUS Strix 2080 TI? Strix have the best cooling, but only a two year warranty vs. EVGA 3 year w upsell to 10 year

I'd get whichever is cheaper. You might choose the longer warranty if you're sure you can actually follow their rules, usually keeping the original packaging and registering within so many days of purchase. I certainly wouldn't get one with a factory OC.

asdf123

kenshaw011267 said:

newoski said:

kenshaw011267 said:

GPU fans aren't all that strong. They are fairly low diameter and they have a lowish fan density. Actually it may have felt like 4 80mm fans moved more air but they couldn't. The issue is the amount of air moved isn't linear with the increase in area of the fans so you will feel less force but if you measure CFM 2 80's don't move as much as 1 200 at the same rpm.

Looking at the build I'm betting the difference in GPU temps is because the older case was less deep front to back and therefore there was simply less air to move to cool the system. It is the tradeoff for having more room to work in.

 

For the H500 case w Noctua D15, would you do two EVGA Ultra XC 2080 TI or two ASUS Strix 2080 TI? Strix have the best cooling, but only a two year warranty vs. EVGA 3 year w upsell to 10 year

I'd get whichever is cheaper. You might choose the longer warranty if you're sure you can actually follow their rules, usually keeping the original packaging and registering within so many days of purchase. I certainly wouldn't get one with a factory OC.

Strix have three year, plus I get a bonus year as a Chase card holder (just learned about that). Citi apparently offers two extra years, but I didn't have a Citi card. Card is OC, but has the lowest temps by like 7-10 degrees, so figured it was worth it. I have a bad history w toasty builds. That said, chip is in at MicroCenter. I pulled the trigger on my GPU and Chromax fans from Noctua, today. Here Sunday. Hopefully built on Monday.

outrider42

kenshaw011267 said:

GPU fans aren't all that strong. They are fairly low diameter and they have a lowish fan density. Actually it may have felt like 4 80mm fans moved more air but they couldn't. The issue is the amount of air moved isn't linear with the increase in area of the fans so you will feel less force but if you measure CFM 2 80's don't move as much as 1 200 at the same rpm.

Looking at the build I'm betting the difference in GPU temps is because the older case was less deep front to back and therefore there was simply less air to move to cool the system. It is the tradeoff for having more room to work in.

Large fans can move air, but have very low static pressure. I can take the side off my case and feel the difference. I don't have a measuring device, but I can feel the force on hand. When my GPUs are idle, I can tell, barely any air gets moved. When I crank them up, the difference is obvious. There is a lot of force coming out of the GPU fans. While I can feel the air moving from the 200mm fans, they clearly don't have the same force as the air coming out of the GPUs, even if I place my hand right on top of them. The GPU fans may be smaller, but they spin a whole lot faster. The EVGA will push well over 3000 RPM, the MSI does around 2000 RPM. The case fans? They might hit 800 using Speedfan. Placing my hand on the top of the case, I can feel the air stronger than I do out the back.

kenshaw011267

outrider42 said:

kenshaw011267 said:

GPU fans aren't all that strong. They are fairly low diameter and they have a lowish fan density. Actually it may have felt like 4 80mm fans moved more air but they couldn't. The issue is the amount of air moved isn't linear with the increase in area of the fans so you will feel less force but if you measure CFM 2 80's don't move as much as 1 200 at the same rpm.

Looking at the build I'm betting the difference in GPU temps is because the older case was less deep front to back and therefore there was simply less air to move to cool the system. It is the tradeoff for having more room to work in.

Large fans can move air, but have very low static pressure. I can take the side off my case and feel the difference. I don't have a measuring device, but I can feel the force on hand. When my GPUs are idle, I can tell, barely any air gets moved. When I crank them up, the difference is obvious. There is a lot of force coming out of the GPU fans. While I can feel the air moving from the 200mm fans, they clearly don't have the same force as the air coming out of the GPUs, even if I place my hand right on top of them. The GPU fans may be smaller, but they spin a whole lot faster. The EVGA will push well over 3000 RPM, the MSI does around 2000 RPM. The case fans? They might hit 800 using Speedfan. Placing my hand on the top of the case, I can feel the air stronger than I do out the back.

This gets mixed up in lots of different things. Felt force is related to how much air is moved but isn't the same as. You could feel a strong pressure on your hand from a small fan turning at 2500RPM but less air would be moved than a much larger fan that feels less powerful to your hand because your hand simply isn't in the entire column of air being moved. Further in a correctly setup positive pressure system in a computer case all the air isn't leaving by way of the exhaust fans. Some, quite a lot if the system is setup well, is escaping through every opening in the case. This serves to removed dust from the system as well as aiding cooling.

Adding fans may mean you feel more air on your hand but it doesn't mean more air is leaving the case just that more of it is leaving through the exhaust fans. If you unbalance the system so more air is exhausted than the intake fans bring in you create a negative pressure system which means outside air is sucked in through every gap in the case which brings dust in with it around any dust filtering and since the fans have to work harder to exhaust the air they produce more heat, per CF exhausted, than they would in a positive pressure system.

p0rt

corsair coolers suck, its better to get a thermaltake water 3.0 riing 280mm, the fan's will never scream, and they can handle any weather with maximum overclocking, with 20c spare from the CPU TDP normally

asdf123

outrider42 said:

Looks fine to me, that's better than 95% of the people here.

You probably could air cool that if you wanted. I have that same case, its good. I have 2 1080tis and they stay under 70C with MSI Afterburner controlling the GPU fans when rendering. So I would expect a 2080ti to run a similar temp with that fan curve. I don't use the CPU during rendering, so it stays cool. Odds are that even the 3900x likely wont help render times a lot, its just the way Iray works. But that CPU will be a champ for many other processes, including pic editing and other creative software.

Some might say the 1000 Watt power supply is overkill, but it does allow plenty of headroom if you wish to add a 2nd GPU at a later time like I did. Its not like the PC will ever actually use 1000 Watts and run up your electric bill.

Sadly, with 3 slots 2080 TIs EVGA XC Ultras), this turned out to be a furnace. Not enough clearance between cards for airflow. Exceeded 85c on top GPU. Rebuilding now with a Corsair 760T case and a new MOBO, MSI Meg. Allows for 2 slots between GPUs, for airflow, with second mounted in bottom slot, which still provides 8x/8x lane. Fingers crosssd

magog_a4eb71ab

newoski said:

outrider42 said:

Looks fine to me, that's better than 95% of the people here.

You probably could air cool that if you wanted. I have that same case, its good. I have 2 1080tis and they stay under 70C with MSI Afterburner controlling the GPU fans when rendering. So I would expect a 2080ti to run a similar temp with that fan curve. I don't use the CPU during rendering, so it stays cool. Odds are that even the 3900x likely wont help render times a lot, its just the way Iray works. But that CPU will be a champ for many other processes, including pic editing and other creative software.

Some might say the 1000 Watt power supply is overkill, but it does allow plenty of headroom if you wish to add a 2nd GPU at a later time like I did. Its not like the PC will ever actually use 1000 Watts and run up your electric bill.

 

Sadly, with 3 slots 2080 TIs EVGA XC Ultras), this turned out to be a furnace. Not enough clearance between cards for airflow. Exceeded 85c on top GPU. Rebuilding now with a Corsair 760T case and a new MOBO, MSI Meg. Allows for 2 slots between GPUs, for airflow, with second mounted in bottom slot, which still provides 8x/8x lane. Fingers crosssd

Imo, this is a stupid problem to have. Unless I'm missing something and they're starting to make graphics cards ridiculously huge, I would think that the knuckleheads designing some of these motherboards would take into consideration that ample space is required between slots to allow proper airflow for multiple graphics card configurations. It sucks having to buy a whole new motherboard just for that reason.

kenshaw011267

magog_a4eb71ab said:

newoski said:

outrider42 said:

Looks fine to me, that's better than 95% of the people here.

You probably could air cool that if you wanted. I have that same case, its good. I have 2 1080tis and they stay under 70C with MSI Afterburner controlling the GPU fans when rendering. So I would expect a 2080ti to run a similar temp with that fan curve. I don't use the CPU during rendering, so it stays cool. Odds are that even the 3900x likely wont help render times a lot, its just the way Iray works. But that CPU will be a champ for many other processes, including pic editing and other creative software.

Some might say the 1000 Watt power supply is overkill, but it does allow plenty of headroom if you wish to add a 2nd GPU at a later time like I did. Its not like the PC will ever actually use 1000 Watts and run up your electric bill.

 

Sadly, with 3 slots 2080 TIs EVGA XC Ultras), this turned out to be a furnace. Not enough clearance between cards for airflow. Exceeded 85c on top GPU. Rebuilding now with a Corsair 760T case and a new MOBO, MSI Meg. Allows for 2 slots between GPUs, for airflow, with second mounted in bottom slot, which still provides 8x/8x lane. Fingers crosssd

Imo, this is a stupid problem to have. Unless I'm missing something and they're starting to make graphics cards ridiculously huge, I would think that the knuckleheads designing some of these motherboards would take into consideration that ample space is required between slots to allow proper airflow for multiple graphics card configurations. It sucks having to buy a whole new motherboard just for that reason.

Pascal and Turing are very temp sensitive and due to that the board partners have started putting on much larger cooling systems. This has caused some of these cards to exceed the 2 slot standard. Add in that the XC Ultra is a factory overclocked card, which means it puts out more heat , and you have a real problem keeping multiple cards cool in smaller cases.

nonesuch00

p0rt said:

corsair coolers suck, its better to get a thermaltake water 3.0 riing 280mm, the fan's will never scream, and they can handle any weather with maximum overclocking, with 20c spare from the CPU TDP normally

Hmmm, thanks for the advice. I've never bought a water cooler before. Will such a water cooler cost more that the $150 AMD Ryzen 5 3400G?

kenshaw011267

nonesuch00 said:

p0rt said:

corsair coolers suck, its better to get a thermaltake water 3.0 riing 280mm, the fan's will never scream, and they can handle any weather with maximum overclocking, with 20c spare from the CPU TDP normally

Hmmm, thanks for the advice. I've never bought a water cooler before. Will such a water cooler cost more that the $150 AMD Ryzen 5 3400G?

Almost the same and is completely unnneeded. The 3400G will run just fine off the cooler it comes with.

nonesuch00

kenshaw011267 said:

nonesuch00 said:

p0rt said:

corsair coolers suck, its better to get a thermaltake water 3.0 riing 280mm, the fan's will never scream, and they can handle any weather with maximum overclocking, with 20c spare from the CPU TDP normally

Hmmm, thanks for the advice. I've never bought a water cooler before. Will such a water cooler cost more that the $150 AMD Ryzen 5 3400G?

Almost the same and is completely unnneeded. The 3400G will run just fine off the cooler it comes with.

Thanks!