Daz Studio Iray - Rendering Hardware Benchmarking

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  • System Configuration
    System/Motherboard: Aorus X570 Elite
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core @ stock
    GPU: MSI Gaming X GeForce GTX 1080 Ti @ stock
    System Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 64 GB @ 3200
    OS Drive: Samsung SSD 970
    Asset Drive: Seagate HDD 4TB
    Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 20H2
    Nvidia Drivers Version: 461.40
    Daz Studio Version: 4.12.1.117
    Optix Prime Acceleration: 

    Benchmark Results
    2021-05-15 06:37:02.150 Finished Rendering
    2021-05-15 06:37:02.180 Total Rendering Time: 8 minutes 40.85 seconds
    2021-05-15 06:39:15.285 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : Device statistics:

    2021-05-15 06:39:15.285 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : CUDA device 0 (GeForce GTX 1080 Ti): 1800 iterations, 1.465s init, 517.472s render


    Iteration Rate: 3.478 iterations per second
    Loading Time: 3.378 seconds

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  • kraftwerkdkraftwerkd Posts: 2
    edited May 15

    Hope I got this right.

    System Configuration
    System/Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix B350-I Gaming
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X @ 3.6GHz
    GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti (1500MHz default, boost clock OC'd to 1900MHz)
    System Memory: ADATA 16GB DDR4 @ 1200MHz
    OS Drive: ADATA HV620S SSD
    Asset Drive: WD Blue 1TB SSD (BitLocker drive encryption enabled)
    Operating System: Windows 10 Pro, version 20H2, build 19042.928
    Nvidia Drivers Version: 466.11 WHQL (non-Studio Driver)
    Daz Studio Version: 4.15.0.2
    Optix Prime Acceleration: n/a

    Benchmark Results
     

    2021-05-14 18:21:22.909 Finished Rendering<br /> 2021-05-14 18:21:22.965 Total Rendering Time: 9 minutes 29.21 seconds
     

    2021-05-14 18:21:50.667 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::&nbsp; &nbsp;1.0&nbsp; &nbsp;IRAY&nbsp; &nbsp;rend info : Device statistics:2021-05-14 18:21:50.667 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::&nbsp; &nbsp;1.0&nbsp; &nbsp;IRAY&nbsp; &nbsp;rend info : CUDA device 0 (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti): 1800 iterations, 3.293s init, 562.806s render


    Iteration Rate: (1800 / 562.806) = 3.198 Iterations per second
    Loading Time: ((0 * 3600 + 9 * 60 + 29.21) - 562.506) 6.704 seconds

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  • RayDAntRayDAnt Posts: 862

    kraftwerkd said:

    Hope I got this right.

    System Configuration
    System/Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix B350-I Gaming
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X @ 3.6GHz
    GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti (1500MHz default, boost clock OC'd to 1900MHz)
    System Memory: ADATA 16GB DDR4 @ 1200MHz
    OS Drive: ADATA HV620S SSD
    Asset Drive: WD Blue 1TB SSD (BitLocker drive encryption enabled)
    Operating System: Windows 10 Pro, version 20H2, build 19042.928
    Nvidia Drivers Version: 466.11 WHQL (non-Studio Driver)
    Daz Studio Version: 4.15.0.2
    Optix Prime Acceleration: n/a

    Benchmark Results
     

    2021-05-14 18:21:22.909 Finished Rendering
    2021-05-14 18:21:22.965 Total Rendering Time: 9 minutes 29.21 seconds

     

    2021-05-14 18:21:50.667 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : Device statistics:2021-05-14 18:21:50.667 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : CUDA device 0 (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti): 1800 iterations, 3.293s init, 562.806s render


    Iteration Rate: (1800 / 562.806) = 3.198 Iterations per second
    Loading Time: ((0 * 3600 + 9 * 60 + 29.21) - 562.506) 6.704 seconds

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  • skyeshotsskyeshots Posts: 45

    System/Motherboard: Gigabyte X299X
    CPU: I9-10980XE @ 3.00 GHZ
    GPU: PNY RTX A6000 x4
    System Memory: 96 GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3466
    OS Drive: Intel 670p M.2 1 TB NVMe
    Asset Drive: Intel Optane 380 GB (905p)
    Operating System: Win 10 Pro, 20H2
    Nvidia Drivers Version: 466.11 DCH
    Daz Studio Version: 4.15

    2021-05-30 13:37:29.483 Finished Rendering
    2021-05-30 13:37:29.519 Total Rendering Time: 28.67 seconds
    2021-05-30 13:37:38.293 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : Device statistics:
    2021-05-30 13:37:38.293 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : CUDA device 0 (NVIDIA RTX A6000):      441 iterations, 1.804s init, 23.293s render
    2021-05-30 13:37:38.293 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : CUDA device 1 (NVIDIA RTX A6000):      442 iterations, 1.678s init, 23.125s render
    2021-05-30 13:37:38.294 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : CUDA device 2 (NVIDIA RTX A6000):      456 iterations, 1.720s init, 24.011s render
    2021-05-30 13:37:38.294 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : CUDA device 3 (NVIDIA RTX A6000):      461 iterations, 1.702s init, 24.087s render
    Loading Time: 4.583
    Rendering Performance: 1800/24.087s = 74.73 iterations per second


    Moved the OS to a dedicated 1 TB NVMe, with the Optane drive for Daz assets. Also, pulled the NVLink bridges (for now) and switched the 3rd card down to a vertical mount w/GPU riser cable, allowing the Optane's heat spreader greatly improved airflow. I didn't think it was going to make a big difference as many single card setups tend to run a bit hotter in vertical. Avg. drop was about 10 degrees C for the GPUs and substantial drop for the Optane (perhaps 15 degrees cooler) with the 3rd GPU in vertical position.

    These are all turbine cooled cards, but something to think about if you have the option to vertical mount one of your GPUs and possibly help ventilate your NVMe. Depending on your build, it may help drop temps, especially versus pancake stacked GPUs.

     

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  • rinkuchalrinkuchal Posts: 37

    Finally got an upgrade.

    System Configuration
    System/Motherboard: Alienware m17 r4
    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10870H CPU @ 2.20GHz (16 Threads), ~2.2GHz
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
    System Memory: 32GB RAM
    OS Drive: Kingston NV1  2TB NVMe
    Asset Drive: Same
    Operating System: Win 10 Home 20H2
    Nvidia Drivers Version: 461.66 DCH
    Daz Studio Version: 4.15

    Benchmark Results - GPU Only
    DAZ_STATS

    2021-06-18 17:36:22.219 Finished Rendering
    2021-06-18 17:36:22.283 Total Rendering Time: 2 minutes 45.74 seconds

    IRAY_STATS

    2021-06-18 17:39:33.794 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : Device statistics:
    2021-06-18 17:39:33.794 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : CUDA device 0 (GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU): 1800 iterations, 4.106s init, 155.692s render

    Iteration Rate: (DEVICE_ITERATION_COUNT / DEVICE_RENDER_TIME) 11.56
    Loading Time: ((TRT_HOURS * 3600 + TRT_MINUTES * 60 + TRT_SECONDS) - DEVICE_RENDER_TIME) 10.04

     

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  • chrislbchrislb Posts: 54
    edited 5:27AM

    I decided to try some experiments with some new hardware.  One of the issues with a RTX 3090 is when you have a high enough power limit, the power limit of the card isn't what's prevents the card from rendering faster.  The limiting factor then becomes the voltage is limiting the GPU from maintaining a higher clock speed.  Most RTX 3090 cards have a GPU voltage limit of about 1.089 volts.

    I ran the benchmark on a RTX 3090 Kingpin, which has a 450 watt or 520 watt power limit(and an optional 1000 watt power limit) along with software that allows you to modify the voltage for the GPU and memory along with adjusting the voltage changes under load(Load Line Calibration).  

    The card is designed for extreme overclocking and cooling well below ambient temperatures.  Its not uncommon to use liquid nitrogen to cool the GPU on the card down to -120C to -160C to achieve high GPU speeds and break computer benchmark records.  That's why it has software to control the voltages and LLC.

    For testing, I ran a 3090 Kingpin with its factory hybrid cooling system, which includes its own closed loop liquid cooling system with a 360mm radiator and a separate fan and heatsinks that cool the VRMs and other components.  I also didn't use the 520 watt BIOS and instead used one of the other factory BIOS versions with a ~450 watt power limit.  The GPU temperature was kept between 37C and 43C during the render benchmarks.  I used 1.25 volts for the GPU, the maximum safe voltage for ambient cooling, and adjusted the other GPU and VRAM voltages accordingly.

     

    System Configuration:

    System/Motherboard: MSI MEG ACE x570

    CPU: AMD Ryzen R9 5950X at stock speed

    GPU: EVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin Hybrid

    System Memory: 32 GB of DDR4 3666 MHz G.Skill Trident Z Neo CAS 16(Underclocked from 4000 MHz)

    OS Drive: 1TB Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB

    Asset Drive: XPG SX 8100 4TB NVMe SSD

    Operating System: Windows 10 pro Build 19043.1055

    Nvidia Drivers Version: 466.77

    Daz Studio Version: 4.15.02

     

    All tests were GPU only rendering.

     

    Benchmark Results:

    I ran the card with the stock VRAM and GPU clock settings and a maximum of 1.25 volts for the GPU.

    5950X 3090 Kingpin 1.25v Stock GPU speed Stock VRAM speed(9752*2 = 19502)

    2021-06-22 00:10:41.058 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend progr: Received update to 01800 iterations after 94.785s.

    2021-06-22 00:10:41.058 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend progr: Maximum number of samples reached.

    2021-06-22 00:10:41.557 Finished Rendering

    2021-06-22 00:10:41.590 Total Rendering Time: 1 minutes 36.90 seconds

    2021-06-22 00:10:48.402 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : Device statistics:

    2021-06-22 00:10:48.402 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : CUDA device 0 (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090): 1800 iterations, 0.850s init, 94.040s render

    Iteration Rate: (1800 / 94.040) = 19.141 iterations per second

    Loading Time: ((1 minutes 36.90 seconds) - 94.040) = 2.86 seconds

     

    I ran the card with a GPU overclock of 281 MHz(2,295 peak MHz) and stock VRAM speed and a maximum of 1.25 volts for the GPU.

    5950X 3090 Kingpin 1.25v +281 GPU Stock VRAM(9752*2 = 19502)

    2021-06-21 23:47:30.233 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend progr: Received update to 01800 iterations after 89.174s.

    2021-06-21 23:47:30.239 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend progr: Maximum number of samples reached.

    2021-06-21 23:47:30.716 Finished Rendering

    2021-06-21 23:47:30.752 Total Rendering Time: 1 minutes 31.26 seconds

    2021-06-21 23:47:33.868 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : Device statistics:

    2021-06-21 23:47:33.868 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : CUDA device 0 (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090): 1800 iterations, 0.849s init, 88.435s render

    Iteration Rate: (1800 / 88.435) = 20.354 iterations per second

    Loading Time: ((1 minutes 31.26 seconds) - 88.435) = 2.825 seconds

     

    I ran the card with a GPU overclock of 281 MHz(2,295 peak MHz) and a VRAM overclock of 900MHz and a maximum of 1.25 volts for the GPU.

    5950X 3090 Kingpin 1.25v +281 GPU +900 VRAM(10652x2 = 21,304)

    2021-06-21 23:43:03.595 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend progr: Received update to 01800 iterations after 83.352s.

    2021-06-21 23:43:03.599 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend progr: Maximum number of samples reached.

    2021-06-21 23:43:04.074 Finished Rendering

    2021-06-21 23:43:04.110 Total Rendering Time: 1 minutes 25.43 seconds

    2021-06-21 23:43:06.887 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : Device statistics:

    2021-06-21 23:43:06.887 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : CUDA device 0 (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090): 1800 iterations, 0.833s init, 82.623s render

    Iteration Rate: (1800 / 82.623) = 21.786 iterations per second

    Loading Time: ((1 minutes 25.43 seconds) - 82.623) = 2.807 seconds

     

    I ran the card with a GPU overclock of 281 MHz(2,295 peak MHz) and a VRAM overclock of 1200MHz and a maximum of 1.25 volts for the GPU.

    5950X 3090 Kingpin 1.25v +281 GPU +1200 VRAM(10952x2 = 21,904)

    2021-06-21 23:59:55.378 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend progr: Received update to 01800 iterations after 81.548s.

    2021-06-21 23:59:55.378 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend progr: Maximum number of samples reached.

    2021-06-21 23:59:55.856 Finished Rendering

    2021-06-21 23:59:55.896 Total Rendering Time: 1 minutes 23.66 seconds

    2021-06-21 23:59:58.914 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : Device statistics:

    2021-06-21 23:59:58.914 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : CUDA device 0 (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090): 1800 iterations, 0.868s init, 80.808s render

    Iteration Rate: (1800 / 80.808) = 22.275 iterations per second

    Loading Time: ((1 minutes 23.66 seconds) - 80.808) = 2.852 seconds

     

    Previously, I saw minimal gains in the rendering time reduction by overclocking the VRAM(past a certian speed) on the graphics card.  However, it appear that when the GPU is running at higher clock speeds, the gains from overclocking the VRAM are more noticeable.  Being able to increase the GPU voltage to the maximum safe voltage for ambient cooling saw a reduction in render time of 13.232 seconds(94.040 seconds - 80.808 seconds) from the stock GPU and VRAM speeds.  The issue(other than increased MSRP) is the 3090 Kingpin is the only RTX 3090 on the market with this ability to change voltages with software above 1.10 volts for the GPU.  There are several other RTX 3090 cards where you can solder an external voltage controller onto the card.  However you then need to have the knowledge and skill to solder tiny connections and adjust those voltages without damaging the GPU.

    In reality, you are probably better off buying more 3090s than spending the extra money for a Kingpin 3090 or pair of Kingpin 3090 cards.  MSRP for the RTX 3090 Kingpin Hybrid is about $2100.  The Kingpin Hydro Copper, which requires a seperate open loop cooling system, has a MSRP of over $2300.  Current street price of a Kingpin Hybrid is $3300-$4000 if you are unable to get one direct from the manufacturer.  For a little more than the MSRP cost of a pair of 3090 Kingpin cards, you can buy three Nvidia founders edition RTX 3090 cards(MSRP $1499.99) or three base model cards from another manufacturer and have faster render times than a pair of RTX 3090 Kingpin cards.

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  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 2,860
    My concern would be what impact overclocking the VRAM may have on its longevity. VRAM seems to be one of the failure points found after mining long periods of time. I do not have stats for this, but it does seem logical to me that the VRAM would break down before the GPU core will. Also, numerous launch GPUs had issues with memory, like "Space Invader" glitch. This glitch was aptly named as the artifacts often looked like sprites from old classic.

    Plus the GDDR6X used in the 3090s runs pretty hot out of the box. It has been suggested this is why Ampere does not make full use of the 6X speed. While the Kingpin may be better designed for cooling it, VRAM cooling is often an afterthought in many GPU designs. In some cases you can even find cards that have some or even all of their VRAM not making contact with the cooler.
  • jd641jd641 Posts: 239
    edited 8:56AM

    I've never done a benchmark for the thread before since my secondary card is my rendering card and I was stuck on a 970 for a very long time. Now that I've got a 3060 I thought I'd put up my results.

     

    System Configuration
    System/Motherboard: Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro
    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9800X CPU @ 3.80GHz
    GPU: eVGA RTX 3060 XC Gaming
    System Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 128GB
    OS Drive: Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
    Asset Drive: Same
    Operating System: Win10 Pro 20H2 19042.746
    Nvidia Drivers Version: 466.77
    Daz Studio Version: 4.15.0.2 64-bit

    Benchmark Results

    2021-06-22 03:56:01.453 Finished Rendering
    2021-06-22 03:56:01.492 Total Rendering Time: 3 minutes 46.31 seconds

    2021-06-22 04:06:26.733 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : Device statistics:
    2021-06-22 04:06:26.733 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER ::   1.0   IRAY   rend info : CUDA device 0 (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060):      1800 iterations, 2.170s init, 221.357s render


    Iteration Rate:  8.131 iterations per second?????
    Loading Time: I don't understand wtf this means at all. I suck at math, maybe someone can figure it out for me and I can edit my post later on. crying

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  • chrislbchrislb Posts: 54

    outrider42 said:

    My concern would be what impact overclocking the VRAM may have on its longevity. VRAM seems to be one of the failure points found after mining long periods of time. I do not have stats for this, but it does seem logical to me that the VRAM would break down before the GPU core will. Also, numerous launch GPUs had issues with memory, like "Space Invader" glitch. This glitch was aptly named as the artifacts often looked like sprites from old classic.

     

    Plus the GDDR6X used in the 3090s runs pretty hot out of the box. It has been suggested this is why Ampere does not make full use of the 6X speed. While the Kingpin may be better designed for cooling it, VRAM cooling is often an afterthought in many GPU designs. In some cases you can even find cards that have some or even all of their VRAM not making contact with the cooler.

     

    I can understand the concern with the VRAM temperatures on some 3090 models.  Even the Nvidia Founder's Edition cards had inadequate VRAM cooling. I've taken apart the EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards, the Asus 3090 Strix cards, and the MSI Gaming X Trio and Suprim cards.  All of them had thermal pads for the rear VRAM to transfer heat elsewhere, to a metal back plate, and what appeared to be adequate cooling for the front VRAM.  They also cooled the front VRAM with the GPU heatsink.  The EVGA 3090 FTW3 cards had a thermal sensor for the front and rear VRAM to monitor its temeprature.  I've also seen some DIY solutions using either large heatsinks and thermal adhesive pads or active water cooling backplates to cool the rear of RTX 3090 cards.

    On the 3090 Kingpin Hybrid the front VRAM is cooled by the GPU cooling system with copper plates and thermal pads.  The rear side VRAM has thermal pads and a metal back plate.  The 3090 Kingpin has multiple thermal sensors for most components and the rear side VRAM thermal sensor rarely showed temperatures above 60C in rendering or gaming benchmarks.  The front side VRAM next to the GPU was 40-50C under load.  The VRAM temps dropped below 40C at idle.

    The manufacturer sells a water cooled 3090 Kingpin model and also a conversion kit to convert the hybrid model to open loop water cooling.  That also may help with VRAM temperatures because it removes heat from the GPU and less heat transfers to the rear side of the card to heat the rear VRAM.

    One other thing I noticed is that larger time reductions in this Iray 3D render benchmark don't always lead to larger reductions in render time actual larger renders at higher resolution with multiple objects.

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 2,860
    edited 4:20PM

    One other thing I noticed is that larger time reductions in this Iray 3D render benchmark don't always lead to larger reductions in render time actual larger renders at higher resolution with multiple objects.

    I'm quite interested in this last bit here. Is it the bench scene or something else. Ray tracing cores accelerate the process, but are kind of a wild card, as how much they impact performance can vary depending on how the scene is built
    Post edited by outrider42 at
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