Does DIM overwrite?

sapatsapat Posts: 1,735

Due to lack of .....something like laziness....I don't want to manually download the backlog of zips on my main external drive like I normally do. I'd like to get them from DIM so I can delete all the TB of zips on my drive.  Probably too late to ask, but I'm installing a ton of files through DIM, and it's not asking to overwrite files if they're already installed.  Is that normal?  Have I screwed up my already installed zips?

Also, now that I look at the files that have installed this morning, I see lots of blank spots where the checkmarks are supposed to be.  Is that normal?

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  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,729

    If you mean the ticks just before the "i" button, they indicate which of the products include metadata - if you look at the product name you'd expect the ones with no ticks to be old-ish items mostly (e.g. poser format, but also older DS products)

  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,729

    Oh, that only answered the final question - sorry I can't really help with the main question(s). Maybe Richard will pop by soon... he know everything!

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,109

    DIM doesn't prompt to overwrite - it does keep a log of files that were present already as it isntalls, and won't delete those when uninstalling (which may be an issue for you).

  • QuasarQuasar Posts: 679

    DIM doesn't prompt to overwrite - it does keep a log of files that were present already as it isntalls, and won't delete those when uninstalling (which may be an issue for you).

    This makes me wonder if sapat ever manually rearranged the content folders before using DIM. Would that lead to a lot of duplicate content that DIM would just ignore? before DIM and meta data, I remember spending a lot of time organizing the content folders. Thankfully I started fresh when I started using DIM.

     

    MelanieL said:

    If you mean the ticks just before the "i" button, they indicate which of the products include metadata - if you look at the product name you'd expect the ones with no ticks to be old-ish items mostly (e.g. poser format, but also older DS products)

    I've always seen those checks but didn't really pay much attention to them. That's nice to know lol. Thanks.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,109
    Quasar said:

    DIM doesn't prompt to overwrite - it does keep a log of files that were present already as it isntalls, and won't delete those when uninstalling (which may be an issue for you).

    This makes me wonder if sapat ever manually rearranged the content folders before using DIM. Would that lead to a lot of duplicate content that DIM would just ignore? before DIM and meta data, I remember spending a lot of time organizing the content folders. Thankfully I started fresh when I started using DIM.

    Yes.

    Quasar said:

     

    MelanieL said:

    If you mean the ticks just before the "i" button, they indicate which of the products include metadata - if you look at the product name you'd expect the ones with no ticks to be old-ish items mostly (e.g. poser format, but also older DS products)

    I've always seen those checks but didn't really pay much attention to them. That's nice to know lol. Thanks.

     

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    MelanieL said:

    If you mean the ticks just before the "i" button, they indicate which of the products include metadata - if you look at the product name you'd expect the ones with no ticks to be old-ish items mostly (e.g. poser format, but also older DS products)

    Oldish products (Poser and legacy DS)?  I have over 9500+ products left in the 'Product' tab. Not sure if that includes the ones I installed yesterday or not. If so, that's probably10,000 since 2011. How do I know which are so old I don't want them? I can't remember that for each file, and don't want to spend a week pressing the ! mark to go see an image to help me to decide.

    I've always installed my zip files to 'My Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\'  then the zip automatically puts them under 'Content' because that's where the  Daz zips point.  This morning, I just discovered that yesterday, DIM installed over 500 product files ouside the 'Content' folder.  Unlike zips that are already designated to go under Content, dim is installing them under the base 'My Lirary' because dim hasn't got their path set up like their zips with 'Content' as their top folder.  Why is that? If all the zips install under the 'My Library\Content', why doesn't dim? They need to update dim to download to the same destination as the zips.  I never use dim, and thought it would save me time.  Now I have to go through those 500 files, weed out the old ones and delete them, (which I was going to do anyway), then drag everything else to content since it installed them all to the base of 'My Library'.  Just going to take me longer now.

    I can change my installaton path inside dim now, but since I've never used dim, I just figured it would install to the same place as the zips. 

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  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,729
    sapat said:
    MelanieL said:

    If you mean the ticks just before the "i" button, they indicate which of the products include metadata - if you look at the product name you'd expect the ones with no ticks to be old-ish items mostly (e.g. poser format, but also older DS products)

    Oldish products (Poser and legacy DS)?  I have over 9500+ products left in the 'Product' tab. Not sure if that includes the ones I installed yesterday or not. If so, that's probably10,000 since 2011. How do I know which are so old I don't want them? I can't remember that for each file, and don't want to spend a week pressing the ! mark to go see an image to help me to decide.

    ... [trimmed] ...

    Are you saying there are 9500+ product with no checkmark, i.e. no metadata? I'd be surprised at that.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    edited July 2019
    MelanieL said:
    sapat said:
    MelanieL said:

    If you mean the ticks just before the "i" button, they indicate which of the products include metadata - if you look at the product name you'd expect the ones with no ticks to be old-ish items mostly (e.g. poser format, but also older DS products)

    Oldish products (Poser and legacy DS)?  I have over 9500+ products left in the 'Product' tab. Not sure if that includes the ones I installed yesterday or not. If so, that's probably10,000 since 2011. How do I know which are so old I don't want them? I can't remember that for each file, and don't want to spend a week pressing the ! mark to go see an image to help me to decide.

    ... [trimmed] ...

    Are you saying there are 9500+ product with no checkmark, i.e. no metadata? I'd be surprised at that.

    Oh, heaven's no. I'm just saying that out of that many products, I'd not be able to figure out which ones are old and which ones are new just by looking at their names. I'd constantly have to click the ! and look at the image and info.  However, I'm finding lots of new products without metadata.  I've run across some of Martin Frost's new stuff and they don't have it. Other new stuff doesn't either, so not sure what that means. Is that a vendor decision, or a Daz decision not to not do it?

    Since I was so bi**hy about dim a few minutes ago with my rant,(so sorry) I now have a more sensible calm question. Since I just installed all this stuff yesterday and haven't touched it, can I go through my 'installed' files in dim, click uninstall, and get rid of all those unwanted old files?  Will it take all remnants of them so nothing is left?  It would make it a lot easier if I could do that in one fell swoop.  I guess I could run them by date or highest number or something like that. but not sure if that would work.

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,262
    edited July 2019
    sapat said:
    MelanieL said:
    sapat said:
    MelanieL said:

    If you mean the ticks just before the "i" button, they indicate which of the products include metadata - if you look at the product name you'd expect the ones with no ticks to be old-ish items mostly (e.g. poser format, but also older DS products)

    Oldish products (Poser and legacy DS)?  I have over 9500+ products left in the 'Product' tab. Not sure if that includes the ones I installed yesterday or not. If so, that's probably10,000 since 2011. How do I know which are so old I don't want them? I can't remember that for each file, and don't want to spend a week pressing the ! mark to go see an image to help me to decide.

    ... [trimmed] ...

    Are you saying there are 9500+ product with no checkmark, i.e. no metadata? I'd be surprised at that.

    Oh, heaven's no. I'm just saying that out of that many products, I'd not be able to figure out which ones are old and which ones are new just by looking at their names. I'd constantly have to click the ! and look at the image and info.  However, I'm finding lots of new products without metadata.  I've run across some of Martin Frost's new stuff and they don't have it. Other new stuff doesn't either, so not sure what that means. Is that a vendor decision, or a Daz decision not to not do it?

    Since I was so bi**hy about dim a few minutes ago with my rant,(so sorry) I now have a more sensible calm question. Since I just installed all this stuff yesterday and haven't touched it, can I go through my 'installed' files in dim, click uninstall, and get rid of all those unwanted old files?  Will it take all remnants of them so nothing is left?  It would make it a lot easier if I could do that in one fell swoop.  I guess I could run them by date or highest number or something like that. but not sure if that would work.

    The SKU generally shows the age of the product (the time it was added to the DAZ Store). In DIM you can filter by SKU range using the sku::[#,#] or sku::[#-#] expressions in the filter field, e.g.

    sku::[0,5000] to get the oldest products up to SKU 5000
    sku::[50000-65000] to get the latest products from SKU 50000 up till now

    Alternatively, if you're using Windows you can use this one, it can sort your products by SKU and you can see images for each product:

    https://taosoft.dk/software/pm-daz/

     

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    dim filters question

    can it filter on a specific pa name?

    like, can i d/l only nightshift products.?

    can it download the promo images for a producr?

    can it d/l in product categories? like can it download all the carnival sets snd carnival add ons

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,109

    PA Name - I don't think so

    Promo iamges - no. Those are not actually part of what you are buying.

    Not that I know, unless they have a common element in the name by which they could be filtered.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    Taoz said:
    sapat said:
    MelanieL said:
    sapat said:
    MelanieL said:

    If you mean the ticks just before the "i" button, they indicate which of the products include metadata - if you look at the product name you'd expect the ones with no ticks to be old-ish items mostly (e.g. poser format, but also older DS products)

    Oldish products (Poser and legacy DS)?  I have over 9500+ products left in the 'Product' tab. Not sure if that includes the ones I installed yesterday or not. If so, that's probably10,000 since 2011. How do I know which are so old I don't want them? I can't remember that for each file, and don't want to spend a week pressing the ! mark to go see an image to help me to decide.

    ... [trimmed] ...

    Are you saying there are 9500+ product with no checkmark, i.e. no metadata? I'd be surprised at that.

    Oh, heaven's no. I'm just saying that out of that many products, I'd not be able to figure out which ones are old and which ones are new just by looking at their names. I'd constantly have to click the ! and look at the image and info.  However, I'm finding lots of new products without metadata.  I've run across some of Martin Frost's new stuff and they don't have it. Other new stuff doesn't either, so not sure what that means. Is that a vendor decision, or a Daz decision not to not do it?

    Since I was so bi**hy about dim a few minutes ago with my rant,(so sorry) I now have a more sensible calm question. Since I just installed all this stuff yesterday and haven't touched it, can I go through my 'installed' files in dim, click uninstall, and get rid of all those unwanted old files?  Will it take all remnants of them so nothing is left?  It would make it a lot easier if I could do that in one fell swoop.  I guess I could run them by date or highest number or something like that. but not sure if that would work.

    The SKU generally shows the age of the product (the time it was added to the DAZ Store). In DIM you can filter by SKU range using the sku::[#,#] or sku::[#-#] expressions in the filter field, e.g.

    sku::[0,5000] to get the oldest products up to SKU 5000
    sku::[50000-65000] to get the latest products from SKU 50000 up till now

    Alternatively, if you're using Windows you can use this one, it can sort your products by SKU and you can see images for each product:

    https://taosoft.dk/software/pm-daz/

     

    I'll try the link, thanks. I got confused since I don't use it except to check updates. I was telling it to list ID highest one first, Is product ID the same as 'sku'?  I don't see anything that says 'sku' in the drop down. Buy I'll do the filter and the link.

    I also changed my download path to 'My Library\Content' so I'll see how that works.

     

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,262
    sapat said:
    Taoz said:
    sapat said:
    MelanieL said:
    sapat said:
    MelanieL said:

    If you mean the ticks just before the "i" button, they indicate which of the products include metadata - if you look at the product name you'd expect the ones with no ticks to be old-ish items mostly (e.g. poser format, but also older DS products)

    Oldish products (Poser and legacy DS)?  I have over 9500+ products left in the 'Product' tab. Not sure if that includes the ones I installed yesterday or not. If so, that's probably10,000 since 2011. How do I know which are so old I don't want them? I can't remember that for each file, and don't want to spend a week pressing the ! mark to go see an image to help me to decide.

    ... [trimmed] ...

    Are you saying there are 9500+ product with no checkmark, i.e. no metadata? I'd be surprised at that.

    Oh, heaven's no. I'm just saying that out of that many products, I'd not be able to figure out which ones are old and which ones are new just by looking at their names. I'd constantly have to click the ! and look at the image and info.  However, I'm finding lots of new products without metadata.  I've run across some of Martin Frost's new stuff and they don't have it. Other new stuff doesn't either, so not sure what that means. Is that a vendor decision, or a Daz decision not to not do it?

    Since I was so bi**hy about dim a few minutes ago with my rant,(so sorry) I now have a more sensible calm question. Since I just installed all this stuff yesterday and haven't touched it, can I go through my 'installed' files in dim, click uninstall, and get rid of all those unwanted old files?  Will it take all remnants of them so nothing is left?  It would make it a lot easier if I could do that in one fell swoop.  I guess I could run them by date or highest number or something like that. but not sure if that would work.

    The SKU generally shows the age of the product (the time it was added to the DAZ Store). In DIM you can filter by SKU range using the sku::[#,#] or sku::[#-#] expressions in the filter field, e.g.

    sku::[0,5000] to get the oldest products up to SKU 5000
    sku::[50000-65000] to get the latest products from SKU 50000 up till now

    Alternatively, if you're using Windows you can use this one, it can sort your products by SKU and you can see images for each product:

    https://taosoft.dk/software/pm-daz/

     

    I'll try the link, thanks. I got confused since I don't use it except to check updates. I was telling it to list ID highest one first, Is product ID the same as 'sku'?  I don't see anything that says 'sku' in the drop down. Buy I'll do the filter and the link.

    SKU is the same as product ID yes.

    sapat said:

    I also changed my download path to 'My Library\Content' so I'll see how that works.

    I assume you mean install path (content library)? Download path means where it stores the downloaded zip files.

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449

    Having a "Content" folder inside one of your libraries is usually the result of incorrectly manually extracting the zips.

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