Studio Woes

Took hours to painstakingly prepare a model, tweak it here and there. Add a background and a floor. Add this clothing item and do some hiding on another item. Quick render. Fix some more things. Change some materials, Fluff the hair up. Quick render. Change the background. Add a prop, add some sparkles to the skin...quick render check. Looks good. Spent like 2-3 hours setting the scene. Raise up the render stats and buckle in for semi-long render that should be 4 maybe 5 hours...go watch some tv. Tinker in the kitchen. Make a mess in the kitchen. Check the ceiling for holes. Check on the render and it's at 95% & it's looking good. Feed the cat before she tears my leg off.  Go back and watch some more tv. Flip channels because there isn't anything on. Come back and find this little box that says DAZ Studio has encountered a problem and the only button to select is close program. I am torn between putting some holes in the ceiling or doing another render but can't stay up and resolved to try -again- tomorrow night and blow another 4-5 hours of my time on the project that would have been done if Studio hadn't decided at the last tiny % to crap out and wipe out what was done.  I only hope I saved before I started on the final render. 

I've seen people posting for auto save feature. I personally would love that feature for rendering. Or the render window be it's own entity, so if Studio pukes the render window is not effected. The image I did was by all means done, it was just tweaking some shadows, so I could have stopped it and maybe a tiny bit of postwork to work out some haze and I'd be happy, but now it is tech 7 hours of time spent for nothing. So disappointed. 

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  • You should check the temp folder. I think the location is:

    • C:/Users/yourname/AppData/Roaming/DAZ 3D/Studio4/temp/render
  • fred9803fred9803 Posts: 1,565

    I know this is an absurd hack, but sometimes when a long difficult render is nearly finished I take a screen-shot of it just in case it crashes. Then I can paste it in PS.

    The suggestion above might work, but if the render crashes there may be no image saved to the temp folder, not sure about that.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,281

    You should check the temp folder. I think the location is:

    • C:/Users/yourname/AppData/Roaming/DAZ 3D/Studio4/temp/render

    And before you restart DS, otherwise it will delete the saved render. 

  • You should check the temp folder. I think the location is:

    • C:/Users/yourname/AppData/Roaming/DAZ 3D/Studio4/temp/render

    You can also paste %AppData%/Daz 3D/Studio4/temp/render/ into the address bar.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533
    fred9803 said:

    I know this is an absurd hack, but sometimes when a long difficult render is nearly finished I take a screen-shot of it just in case it crashes. Then I can paste it in PS.

    The suggestion above might work, but if the render crashes there may be no image saved to the temp folder, not sure about that.

    Why not just pause the render save the image and resume the render?

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,846

    Took hours to painstakingly prepare a model, tweak it here and there. Add a background and a floor. Add this clothing item and do some hiding on another item. Quick render. Fix some more things. Change some materials, Fluff the hair up. Quick render. Change the background. Add a prop, add some sparkles to the skin...quick render check. Looks good. Spent like 2-3 hours setting the scene. Raise up the render stats and buckle in for semi-long render that should be 4 maybe 5 hours...go watch some tv. Tinker in the kitchen. Make a mess in the kitchen. Check the ceiling for holes. Check on the render and it's at 95% & it's looking good. Feed the cat before she tears my leg off.  Go back and watch some more tv. Flip channels because there isn't anything on. Come back and find this little box that says DAZ Studio has encountered a problem and the only button to select is close program. I am torn between putting some holes in the ceiling or doing another render but can't stay up and resolved to try -again- tomorrow night and blow another 4-5 hours of my time on the project that would have been done if Studio hadn't decided at the last tiny % to crap out and wipe out what was done.  I only hope I saved before I started on the final render. 

    I've seen people posting for auto save feature. I personally would love that feature for rendering. Or the render window be it's own entity, so if Studio pukes the render window is not effected. The image I did was by all means done, it was just tweaking some shadows, so I could have stopped it and maybe a tiny bit of postwork to work out some haze and I'd be happy, but now it is tech 7 hours of time spent for nothing. So disappointed. 

    Hopefully this will prompt you to think of saving often so no need for an autosave

  • scorpio said:
    fred9803 said:

    I know this is an absurd hack, but sometimes when a long difficult render is nearly finished I take a screen-shot of it just in case it crashes. Then I can paste it in PS.

    The suggestion above might work, but if the render crashes there may be no image saved to the temp folder, not sure about that.

    Why not just pause the render save the image and resume the render?

    Use File>Save Last Render, though - if you use the button on the render window it will close the window.

  • All good suggestions.

    Fred: If I was rendering to the size of my screen, a screen shot would have worked, but the image was bigger so unfortunately the shot would have just captured like a fourth of the image. But then the image also would have had the Studio crash window in the middle of it :( 

    FSMC, I saved my model as I worked with it, it was during the render process is where it died so I lost the final render, not the actual model or what I built. I learned a long time ago when I used Poser to always save your work before hitting that render button :) I just wish there was a way to retrieve the image that took 4+ hours to bake. 

    Almighty: I'll look for that folder. 

    Taoz: Oh well there goes looking for that folder ;) but I'll try and remember the next time it does this to me! 

    Scorpio: Good idea! Never thought about pausing it and saving what it's done already. 

    Richard: So the pause button will close the render window? How can I use File>Save if it's still rendering? Once that little box pops up you can't click on anything in Studio, I thought the render window would still be clear to allow me to hit save and then close the program but the little box just gives you the option of close program only. If you try to click on anything else, it flashes at you so you're stuck with closing it all down. 

    Didn't Vue have a feature that auto saves your renders, but I don't know if that feature worked if it crashed in the middle of the production. 

     

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,281
    edited February 2019

    Taoz: Oh well there goes looking for that folder ;) but I'll try and remember the next time it does this to me! 

    I once wrote a small Windows utility for the purpose. After it's set up, create an icon on the desktop. If DS crashes during a render, just run it and it will copy the render to the backup folder and then start DS. You can also just use it to start DS with instead of using the DS icon, if there are no renders to save it will just start DS.

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/3517041/#Comment_3517041 

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  • Richard: So the pause button will close the render window? How can I use File>Save if it's still rendering? Once that little box pops up you can't click on anything in Studio, I thought the render window would still be clear to allow me to hit save and then close the program but the little box just gives you the option of close program only. If you try to click on anything else, it flashes at you so you're stuck with closing it all down.

    No, saving will close the window. Just stopping it witll leave it open so that it can be resumed.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,281

    It's funny, I've never really checked what's going on in that temp\render folder in real time before now. I though that at least IRay saved the render there each time it updated the canvas. But no, it's only if the render finishes by itself, or you stop it before it's finished, that it is saved.

    That means that you can only recover renders which you have accidently closed before saving them. If DS crashes while rendering there's nothing to recover. Or what?

     

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342

    Something re the render that happened to me last night for the first time...

    What circumstances are required to cause the result of menu/save last render to be a screen grab of the scene window instead of the render?

     

  • Are you sure you used File>Save Last Render and not File>Save Last Draw?

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342

    Are you sure you used File>Save Last Render and not File>Save Last Draw?

    I can never say never, but I never ever did that before in all these years. But it's possible. I re-started studio, opened the saved scene and hit render and it saved okay. So it sure seems like it. My bad...

     

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,981

    If I set up a large scene I always save it and close out Daz Studio then boot Studio back up so it's fresh before rendering it. I used to experience fairly frequent crashes but since starting doing that it doesn't happen nearly as often. It could be that Daz Studio is just more stable now and that's why, and that it could be just a coincidence. But it may be worth a shot to try that. Save the scene, close Daz Studio, then reopen Daz Studio fresh before rendering the scene. It might just be my imagination but it seems like scenes render faster when I do that as well. *shrug*

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342

    Thanks, Diva. I'll give it a shot. But this was a small scene (log shows less than 2 gigs) and Studio didn't crash.

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