Fingers on Triggers
Warcat
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Am I the only one who gets 'triggered' when a pose or picture has the model's finger on the trigger?
I mean it just shows how amateur someone is when they have their finger on the trigger and aren't firing. So many of the poses for models have fingers on triggers. I spend far too much time moving the finger to an appropriate position. . .
As a former Marine and a veteran I'm a big fan of safety and education. I feel so alone on this sometimes.
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I've noticed that myself, but that's because only a few people outside the police and military have been taught how to safely handle a firearm (and movies and TV are a really poor example) ;). Straight finger, alongside the gun, until you're sure you want to fire. LOL
Laurie
There are more people that you realise who are aware of gun safety. Anyone who shoots with a club or does target shooting or skeet/trap shooting for example. Obviously not many PAs belong to gun clubs or even re-enactment societies.
It would be nice if the PA's could learn. I mean they have great stuff. I would just like to raise awareness that the booger picker should be off the bang switch unless the person is going to put a hole in something. Pictures get imbedded in the public's concious. Wishful thinking on my part most likely, but it is something so many kids could learn from.
Some of us a tend to nudge (*cough* harass *cough*) the PA's too for making a safety pose grip so to say. I know a few PA's have started to have it with their product, but it's not usual.. yet. I hope it will be soon enough :)
It's probably a hollywood type of deal. Most only see this with military and law enforcement and if not doing either of these types of images don't apply it because it looked cool when they saw it in a show..
As a shooter myself, it doesn't bother me that others are ignorant when it comes to renders and other virtual type such. They probably have never handled a firearm before and have never been taught any kind of gun safety.
BTW thanks for your service!
Yah. Most of the time my models practice proper firearm safety, sometimes they dont. Depends on the render. I think FSMCDesigns is right. Just a Hollywood thing... you know, like how you throw away the magazine when you change it for a fresh one. Or, even better, how you throw away the gun when youre completely out of ammo.
I was Navy in my day, and that shizznit drives me insane. Cringing aside, someone up above mentioned the Hollywood thing, and I agree that's most likely the reason for this sort of thing. Not that it helps us any. Even Shirow Masamune got it right for his Appleseed manga, you'd think we could too. At least for the Americans and Aussies. Continental Europeans would get a pass, as the majority of them have probably never even seen a firearm except in movies.
Given that combat outfits are made with belly baring middrifs and high heels I’m not overly bothered by this....3d outfits and poses are pretty far from reality.....and it’s easy enough to correct a finger.
There's a new (?) product--I can't recall the name but it was a female with 2 pistols--that recently got praised in the forums because there was at least 1 pose with the finger off the trigger.
My husband is both ex-military and has hunted since childhood, so usually ask him to model safe shooting/handling poses if I don't have what I need for the figure I'm using.* And one of the things I specifically ask is WHERE the trigger finger is supposed to be--or anything else safety-related. Although he'd pose that way even if I didn't ask because he IS safety-minded.
*He poses without a weapon, miming the positions unless it's one of our cosplay props
its not real so i dont care LOL
You’re not the only one. I gave up ranting a while back, though. It’s a common enough problem that i created a simple corrective pose. As a counter example, check out Modern Weapons Collection 2. I didn’t really need it, but was so pleased with the on and off trigger poses that I bought it anyway. My real problem is with most of the shooting poses in general. They all remind me of Hot Fuzz. If you’ve seen it, you know what I mean. I’d love to find some regular boring shooting and tactical poses. I’ve started on a set of my own, but posing characters manually is the most boring, tedious activity in Daz.
Now I want to do a gun product where folks have middle fingers or other crazy stuff on triggers...
...Other crazy stuff? Are you talking of alien tentacle monsters?
Was combat engineer and later in EW in my days, and feel the same.
but you´re not right with the Europeans, as in almost every european State there is some kind of compulsory military service where they "teach" at least the "basics".
In some States you may choose between that or community service.
Sometimes I care enough to fix the pose, and sometimes I don't. Quick fix, in case anyone reading this doesn't know:
Select figure, apply trigger-happy pose, go to "parameters" tab and look for "pose controls". Find the controls for the right hand, dial index finger bend or index finger grasp to a negative value, until the finger is outside the trigger guard.
I'm with you on this.
No brother your're not alone.
I don't think I have actually used a gun without the character actually being in the act of shooting something, not something I use a lot truth be told but good to be aware of.
No not really. Why would a 'pose' for a fake 3D person trigger anyone? Don't get me wrong, I'm ex-Army, I conceal carry every day, I go shooting quite often and if someone is fingering their trigger or otherwise acting like an idiot and not following firearm safety rules then yeah it gets my attention and my callout. But these are poses for things that aren't real. I don't get bothered by 3D motorcycles that don't have helmets for the riders, nor do I get upset if a 3D vehicle doesn't have working seat belts. Not to mention it take but a few seconds to straighten a finger if you really want to have that pose for an image.