Question re Frivolous Forties & Required Products Generally

Prince Wao

A lot of products on their product/sales page don't state that Required Products are needed first, that's only revealed on the next pop-up page when you add the product to the cart. That's just an annoyance, but I've also found that a some sets/environments state a Required Product is needed so one naturally purchases the RP even when it's not actually wanted for use, expecting that the actual product one wants is materials for the RP, but then on installation finds that it's a stand-alone anyway. An example is the South Beach Deco products. I've never tried uninstalling the Required Product to see if these assumed add-ons which aren't materials work without the original, so my first question is: is it the case that non-material add-ons do work without the original RP?

MY second question is re the Frivolous Forties outfit for the G2F. It states that the compatible figure is the G2F - nothing else - but it also gives Victoria 6 as a Required Product. So is V6 essential to make the outfit work on the G2F or not?

Chohole

links to the products in question in the Daz store would help people when they try to help you. However I can tell you that the Southe Beach Deco sets will not work without the original products as they are all texture sets by Moyra.

 

 

Prince Wao

Re links to products I don't see how links would clarify anything beyond what's already been written re either Frivolous Forties or South Beach Deco, but here's the Frivolous Forties link:
https://www.daz3d.com/frivolous-forties

Is Victoria 6 definitely a Required Product for this in order for it to work properly on the G2F? I only want to use it on the G2F even if I had V6 which I don't. So I want to know if I have to buy V6 as well.

Re the South Beach Deco products, the main sets appear as Preloads while the individual props appear as Materials, so re the sets one doesn't need to load the Classic Deco first (as one does with the props), thus my question, which you've answered. Thanks. It's the difference between textures and a materials.

Chohole

What I am saying is that if you ask for help you should provide links for the people who may help you.  People don't want to spend a lot of time trying to find the products that you are talking about.

With the Deco beach products, both the original and the add on sets are from the PC club, so they can set them up with preloads.  But the preloads will not work if you have not already got the original item in your runtime.  The PC prop products have always worked like this since the PC started and RHS  (RedHouse Studios) were the group producing the props.

Characters work differently but basically the required figure bit is really telling you that the dress is optimised for V6 fit.  It will obviously also work on G2F.

Prince Wao

Chohole said:

 

Characters work differently but basically the required figure bit is really telling you that the dress is optimised for V6 fit.  It will obviously also work on G2F.

Thanks for your reply again, Chohole. Re the Frivolous Forties, to me it wasn't obvious that the outfit (and add-ons) would work properly on the G2F as the product page states that V6 is a "Required Product". Also just recently someone asked a similar question, though I forget about which product, and the answer given was that the product would work without the Required Product, but it wouldn't work properly or exactly the same. I think someone wrote that tweaking would be required or something similar.

A petty point now, but I continually see forum users mentioning products without giving links to them and often it would helpful if they did. Even it's someone just saying they love a specific product it would be nice to be able to check it out to see why it was so liked. I always give links or add attachments when I think it's necessary or essential, but in the past on technical inquires I've occasionally been asked to add an attachment when one just isn't required. For example, I have a still have an unresolved issue (ticket submitted) with the G8M's eye sockets rendering 100% black, and I was asked to add an attachment. I did but all it showed was the G8M's sockets rendering 100% black so nothing was clarified. On another occasion I was asked to pointlessly add an attachment which didn't clarify anything, like the latter, so I did a screen shot and titled it "a waste of time" (which it was) not knowing that the title would show along with the image!

Forums can sometimes be a pain! Not so much on Daz, but on other IT technical help sites I so often find that most people replying have never had the problem themselves and are just guessing at the solution. Sometimes a question can be "I have a problem with X" and the first person to reply will ask "are you talking about X, or do you mean Q?" when it's already stated it's about X; and then someone else will reply "In order to fix Z you need to go here, do that, go there, click on this, etc" when again the question is clearly not about Z but X. I'm a self-publisher and so have to make PDFs of book interior files and covers, but one day my Word just wouldn't create PDFs and I couldn't figure out why. It took about 6 months to solve the problem and I literally wasted hours and hours following forum instructions, none of which worked or were just totally irrelevant. Then one day just by chance I came across the solution and it was just click on Menu A and tick Sub-Menu C."

Chohole

Thanks for your reply again, Chohole. Re the Frivolous Forties, to me it wasn't obvious that the outfit (and add-ons) would work properly on the G2F as the product page states that V6 is a "Required Product". Also just recently someone asked a similar question, though I forget about which product, and the answer given was that the product would work without the Required Product, but it wouldn't work properly or exactly the same. I think someone wrote that tweaking would be required or something similar.

That is what I was getting at when I said that characters are different.    I remember the question and answer you are talking about (or another one just like it) and in that case the answer is that the Character morph will work directly on the relevant base Genesis figure, but won't look the same as if it was applied to the V6 or whatever the character name was.

Clothing is much more forgiving.