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JCMs and dForce

Victor_BVictor_B Posts: 392
in The Commons

Hello.

This is a question for dForce clothing authors.

Why dForce clothig has so many custom JCMs and other morphs? Does they affect on dForce simulation results?

I am not against this. Just interesting.

Thanks.

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Imagine a paper tube.

    Now bend that tube. What happens?

    JCMs make sure that doesn't happen. ;)

     

  • Victor_BVictor_B Posts: 392
    edited November 2018

    Sorry, i don't understand you, Oso3D.

    Is there any other explanations?

    Post edited by Victor_B on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,041

    Many dForce items should work, at least to a dregree, without simulation and so may need JCMs. Also, yes you can set a dForce item to drape from its starting shape (in the Simulation group of Parameters  with the item selected).

  • Victor_BVictor_B Posts: 392
    edited November 2018

    Thank you, Richard Haseltine. I know that.

    Ok, I will ask in other words:

    Does dForce clothing requires custom morphs, FBMs and JCMs?

    Edited

    wait a sec, you said "Many dForce items should work, at least to a dregree..."

    "should work" means "must work"?

    and what "dregree" is?

    Thanks

    Post edited by Victor_B on
  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416
    edited November 2018

    He means they should work like normal conforming clothes without having to simulate.  To get that to work on a level suitable for sale it needs JCMs.

    And to answer part of your original question, if you always simulate starting from zero pose, no, they shouldn't effect the dForce sim at all, it's if you simulate from current pose or don't simulate at all that they come into play and are very important.

    Post edited by Fisty on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,041

    I mean that they should be (Daz requires that they be) set up as fitted items, unless the item type precludes that. However, they may well not have great options for adjusting things like skirts - I've had one or two which can't be used with posed legs except by simulating. So to that extent, yes morphs are required. Also the typical fit adjust moprhs may well be needed to use the clothing on a moprhed figure, as any poke-through is likely to cause the simulation to look bad at best and to explode at worst.

  • Victor_BVictor_B Posts: 392

    Ok. I clearly understand now. Thanks.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416
    edited November 2018

    Obviously The Girl 8 has her custom morphs on the middle and right.  If you simulated the Girl one without the custom morph for her shape it would not look good even if you started in zero pose, and that's assuming it wouldn't just explode.

    JCMs Base.jpg
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    JCMs Girl.jpg
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  • Victor_BVictor_B Posts: 392

    ok,ok. I see now. I'm using dForce with short animation from zero pose to the needed pose (as I did in Poser long time ago), so all these morphs seemed redundant for me. Thanks for images. :)

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