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Lol, I know. 336 cuda cores,
. Most likely, ill plug it in, confirm that the initial failure was a video card issue, and then... probably take it out and plug it back into the old xp computer. Ill get a new card in a couple months or whenever the price drop hits. Until then, im thinking that a break from daz wouldnt be such a bad thing. Ill still probably shop if the prices are right, but a small pause might just help with this creative wall that ive been smacking my head against for awhile.
Update:
So I tried running the Area 51 on my old gtx 460 and it scoffed at the mere mention of the thought. What was interesting about that expirement was that I heard a distinct 6 Beep repeating alarm coming from the computer indicating a bad card. Now that I have clearly heard what one of those alarms sounds like, I can say without a doubt that there is NO alarm associated with my gtx 770, the one im having issues with. So I am currently in safe mode with networking ande installing the lates nvidea driver. The driver just finished installing. Im now going to restart the computer...
No change.
I think im just going to have to call a shop.
Another thing to consider is that sometimes you need to completely remove NVIDIA drivers before installing new ones or your issues don't go away. And I mean COMPLETELY. When I did it last year (?) I needed to download a non-NVIDIA application (recommended by all the smart folks in the NVIDIA forums) that caused my virus software to go nuts.
It was a pain, it took a long time, but finally it worked. I believe this was after I installed a new 1080ti in the slot next to an old card (forget the model) and it caused havoc.
Don't ask me why NIVIDIA can't make their own app that removes drivers completely.
EDIT: Oh, it was called "DDU". Display Driver Uninstaller.
Odd that a known good card is being read as bad in the machine. Are you able to hook your 770 into the xp machine? If you can and if it works, then there is something else wrong with your area 51 machine.
The card is probably good as far as computational circuitry but maybe the memory has gone bad although maybe not, you'd think the card would give out some diagnosis error. The fact that the card is working in VGA mode where it uses much less memory might be hinting at such a problem.
Search for an nVidia utility that tests an nVidia card's memory or other circuitry independant of whether it is using nVidia drivers (or yours is using the failsafe VGA drivers in Safemode).
Quick questions.
Now that you've cracked your case open, do you have more than one PCIe 16 slot? If so, did you try plugging in your GTX 460 into the second slot, while leaving the other card plugged into the first slot?
Also, have you been able to figure out how to get into your BIOS screen?
...1 GB is pretty useless for rendering (I have the same card). Good as a secondary card to run the displays when dedicating a more powerful one to just rendering, but that's about it.
That thought crossed my mind. Im not sure it will fit but I can take a look at it.
I have 3 slots. Ill need to check and see if my psu can compensate for two cards. Its an 850 watt psu. I can get into the bios screen.
My trusty gtx 770 has given up the ghost!
I finally broke down and took it into a shop. Super glad that I did as well, I found an excellent guy! We ended up gabbing for an hour when I took the thing in. He was able to determine that it was the card, and cleaned up my computer. Even said I could take an old ATI card that he had for free (refused it though as I will be wanting nvidea for iray). All for the reasonable price of just 75 bucks! Quite a find.
So now, the search begins for a new card.
...good you finally found the cause.
Fortunately card prices are coming back down to earth. The Nvidia store has the 1070 (399$) reference editions available at their base cost, and it looks like the 1080 Ti is back in stock for 699$. Not sure if the 1060 for 299$ is the 3 or 6 GB one.
Yah, im feeling somewhat more positive about card prices these days. Ill be trying to stretch that dollar as far as I can.
No you won't be able to use it for Iray. Iray requires 4gb VRAM
...depending on your budget a 6 GB 1060 would be OK as long as you don't intend to render huge scenes. Based on the prices I saw at Newegg I would think the one in the Nvida store is the 6 GB model (Newegg running from 289$ for one of the single fan "mini" cards to around 349$ for the dual fan ones)
A 1070 will give you a little more overhead but you probably would be better off with going direct to Nvidia as the lowest price at Newegg I saw was 409$ and many are still hovering around the 500$ mark.
Since you are running 8.1 you should be able to use pretty much all the VRAM your card has.
My wife has the GTX 980Ti 6GB and it works great in Iray and DS.
I have a GTX 980Ti too...runs fine with Iray.
Laurie
Im hopeing to keep costs under 500 bones and im assuming that I will need another psu, but we shall see.
Im sure that any card that I get is going to blow my mind as far as speed comparisons (with the 770) are concerned.
I thought Iray had dropped support for Fermi cards, so that 460 wouldn't work anyway.
I don't know what your budget is, but personally I think the 1070ti is a very solid buy. According to benchmarks I have seen it out performs the 1080 at Iray. So for about $40 or $50 more than the base 1070, you can get a nice Iray performance upgrade along with 8GB VRAM.
I'm not going to tell you what to buy, but I really like that EVGA offers extended warranties on their cards for a pretty small price. You can buy the card anywhere, when you register it within 90 days of purchase, you can buy either a 5 year or 10 (!) year warranty for the card. To be clear, these add either 2 or 7 years to the 3 year factory warranty that most cards come with. The price of these scale on the MSRP of the card, but they cap at $30 and $60 respectievly. So for a max $60 you can have a 10 YEAR warranty on your GPU. It gets better, because you can transfer this warranty if you sell the card. That means you can get more money if you sell the card. Think about all the 5 year old cards you see on ebay, it is pretty rare to see one say they have a warranty. It would be incredible to to be able to buy an old card that still has warranty on it. And if you had bought such a warranty on the 770, it would still have about 4 years left on its warranty! That's pretty tough deal to beat. Sometimes when people return dead GPUs they even get a better one in return, like say they get the next generation x70, which would be a 970 in this case.
Though I have bought all my GPUs used because I have been a poor boy. And as such I have never been shy to suggest buying used if the price is right because you really can save a lot in some cases. Next time I plan on buying new.
...indeed, that is how I ended up with my Titan X. The last "new" card I bought was my old 460 when I built my system. I was saving for a 1070 just before the prices shot into the stratosphere.
Sadly most EVGA 1070s and 1070 Ti's I am seeing at Newegg are still over 500$. There are a couple Ti's for about 490$ but some reviews issues with the cooling fans and no backplate.
There is one 1070 Hybrid liquid cooled card for 489$
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487264
Also comes with a free 550w PSU that could serve as a backup or auxiliary.
While I'm sad that your card is dead, I'm glad that you sorted things out. I bet you are looking forward to getting a newer graphics card though!
Oh yah! I was incredibly mopey for several days after the card died. Looking forward to rendering with some new power!
A 10 year warranty would be really nice. Standard is probably just 90 days isnt it?
I know absolutely nothing about liquid cooled cards. Do you have to do anything to maintain them at all?
If only I had an extra $500. Not concerned about the power supply as I have a pretty good one, but that looks like a pretty good deal of the hybrid card.
Only thing that bugs me is the water lines are coming out past the side of the fan that I would think is supposed to attatch to the PC case, so they would get in the way.
So what is the difference between a card and its "TI" version? What is this ti of which we speak?
Im think that a 1070 might be an option. Just digging for more details.
..the 1070 Ti has more cores and is supposedly faster but has the same VRAM as the standard 1070. Usually a Ti also has increased VRAM (like the 1080 Ti).
I have never used a water cooled GPU or CPU (when I built my system it was still pretty exotic, and much more expensive). The one thing I do know is it helps the card of CPU to run cooler at peak use than standard air cooling.
Just clicked the link, it's listing at $580. It's a closed-loop water cooling solution, so no maintainence issues. Just blow out the radiator/fan combo with compressed air every so often (like all fans).
The "TI" suffix was added by a card manufacturer way back in Earlier GeForce days, it was an abbreviation for "Titanium", which meant it was a better spec GPU (usually meant it could be overclocked better, and was overclocked from the factory.)
Today, it usually indicates that the GPU is actually a higher-end GPU chip that had some cores marked as bad. So they disable those cores, put them on a lower platform name, and call it a "Ti" card. It means it runs at the clock speed of the better card, has more cores than the regular model (but not as many as the better one). It allows the company to reduce the losses from chips that come off the fab line with some small issues (a few CUDA cores are bad, etc.) They have to design the chips in such a way that certain blocks of the chip can be disabled, but the extra design and circuitry is more than offset by the loss recovery.
In fact, many of the cards today (1060, 1070, 1080) are all the same basic GPU, just some had failures in some blocks, so they disable those and put them in the lower spec card and at lower speed. There may be ONE bad CUDA core in an nvidia GP-104 chip, but they have to disable the whole block of CUDA cores it is in. So instead of being a 1080, it becomes a 1070 Ti. If They have to disable two blocks of CUDA cores, then it becomes a 1070. If three or more blocks have bad cores, it's probably a loss. The 1060 has several tiers in it, and are GP-106 chips. The 1080Ti and the Titan X and Xp are all GP-102 chips. Just differing in how well they test coming out of the fabrication plant.
Nvidia video cards for consumers are designed for gaming not Iray. The fan profiles and cooling solutions are designed with this in mind. This is why even a really well build card with excellent cooling is gonna go over designed heating threshold when subjected to Iray. The way video cards are designed is like american cars they are built to break>> Consequently we are left with the need to do everything in our power to expand the MTBF life of our investment in these expensive video cards as best we can. Use MSI afterburner and open case and point a fan at computer to blow cool air at case especially during the summer months.
What card do you use?
Ahh ok, just saw your signature.