What program do you use to UV map your models? Explain.

DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,388

what program do you use to UV map your models?

 

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Blender, as I use it for modelling; also looking forward to their new UV system, although not sure if that is due with 2.8; Eavee is getting a lot of attention, but I'm more interested in their new UV when it arrives.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,388

    New UV system in the works?  Was not aware.  Thank you.

    Anyone still use old classics like UVMapper Pro?  

    Dedicated programs like UVLayout or Ultimate Unwrap?

    Can 3DCoat do uvmpping?

    Prefer to use whichever program used as the modeler?

  • sura_tcsura_tc Posts: 174

    Blender as well.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    Headus' UV Layout, excelent program.

  • WilmapWilmap Posts: 2,917

    I use UV Layout Pro.

  • ChangelingChickChangelingChick Posts: 3,360

    I also use Blender. Started because I was a cheapskate, but then I realized it's super easy to use :D

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847

    ...ouch, expesnive programme, even for the hobbyist version.

    Hopefully in the rework of Hexagon they include a decent set of UV mapping tools.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    Diomede said:

    New UV system in the works?  Was not aware.  Thank you.

    Anyone still use old classics like UVMapper Pro?  

    Dedicated programs like UVLayout or Ultimate Unwrap?

    Can 3DCoat do uvmpping?

    Prefer to use whichever program used as the modeler?

    I only use UV Mapper to export template and fix some things, but  not to do a uv map

    Never used UVLayout or Ultimate Unwrap, tho I heard they're very good.

    3DCoat makes excellent uv maps.

    I still use Roadkill believe it or not...force of habit ;).

    Laurie

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,587

    Modo, cos that's where I do most of my modelling. Even when I make stuff in Carrara, I'll often tweak the UV in Modo. (cos the UV editor in Carrara really is like, the bit they forgot to finish)

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,843

    here ya go, the top 6 mappers

    https://www.slant.co/topics/2560/~uv-mapping-software

    I usually use Ultimate Unwrap 3D, but I tried Roadkill and really liked it, so might be switching.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,053

    a crazy mix of Carrara, Zbrush UV master plugin and Ultimate Unwrap 3D

    I really do not know what I am doing but between those 3 end up with something

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175

    here ya go, the top 6 mappers

    https://www.slant.co/topics/2560/~uv-mapping-software

    I usually use Ultimate Unwrap 3D, but I tried Roadkill and really liked it, so might be switching.

    If you do use Roadkill just remember to make your material zones AFTER you make the UVs (Roadkill hoses the material zones) :P

    Laurie

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,388

    Thank you, everyone.  @FSMCDesigns, very interesting list and reviews.  

  • RorrKonnRorrKonn Posts: 509

    One of my FAV app's for mapping n texuring allegorithmic.com .It's killer fast n makes wicked textures

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847
    edited June 2018

    ...sadly it sounds like the best either involve a fairly substantial outlay in Zloty's or time and frustration.

    If the new version of Hexagon doesn't have a decent UV mapping/wrapping utility, then I'll probably bow out of modelling as I cannot afford tools that cost 100s if not 1,000s or that make me feel like I've beat my head against a concrete wall for a couple days.

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  • 3anson3anson Posts: 314
    edited June 2018
    RorrKonn said:

    One of my FAV app's for mapping n texuring allegorithmic.com .It's killer fast n makes wicked textures

    SP cannot create UV's

     

    i use Modo and UVLayout, Modo for primary UVing, and UVL for 'difficult' meshes that need 'relaxing/flattening.

    the tools in Modo make it very easy to cut seam lines for creating your UV islands, and you can organise the islands in any way that you desire. it also works with UDIM tiling for the different sections

    that may be required. the only thing on the 'con' side is that the relaxing algorithm does struggle with 'dense' meshes, so it pays to UV as early in the modelling process as you can.

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  • 3anson3anson Posts: 314

    btw, you do not NEED expensive programs to create your UVs. i have some of AllenArt's products, and her UVs are always very clean and logically laid outsmileyyes

  • AlienRendersAlienRenders Posts: 794

    I use Lightwave 3D for two reasons. First, I own a copy of it as it's my favourite 3D modeling app. Second, as a programmer, if it can't do something I need, I will write my own plugin. For example, I wrote a UV plugin to make the UV's rectangular and/or evenly distribute uv points in one or both directions. It works on your UV selection and is quite useful when you want to have that perfectly clean UV map on rectangular UV areas. It's available on Newtek's site. I have other plugins as well. The strange thing is that Lightwave was traditionally known as one of the worst tools for UV, but it's starting to have quite a few plugins that make it really powerful. Some of the unwrap tools are really nice. In Lightwave 2018, they added support for UDIM.

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847
    edited June 2018
    3anson said:

    btw, you do not NEED expensive programs to create your UVs. i have some of AllenArt's products, and her UVs are always very clean and logically laid outsmileyyes

    ...I've tried using the free version of UV Mapper and it just seems so clumsy and imprecise.  One of the things that bothered me is it was difficult to expand the workspace proportionally to do fine work and maps would often stretch out of proportion.

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  • HorusRaHorusRa Posts: 1,664

    Inside Lightwave.

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,587
    AllenArt said:

    here ya go, the top 6 mappers

    https://www.slant.co/topics/2560/~uv-mapping-software

    I usually use Ultimate Unwrap 3D, but I tried Roadkill and really liked it, so might be switching.

    If you do use Roadkill just remember to make your material zones AFTER you make the UVs (Roadkill hoses the material zones) :P

    Laurie

    Also make your material zones afterwards, if you're texturing with Substance Painter. (it'll spit each mat zone out as a separate set of maps, even if they fit on the same UV)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847

    ..but isn't the whole idea of UV mapping to create material zones?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,953
    kyoto kid said:

    ..but isn't the whole idea of UV mapping to create material zones?

    No, UVing is to tell an image how to wrap around the model.

  • themidgetthemidget Posts: 287
    edited June 2018
    Diomede said:
     

    Anyone still use old classics like UVMapper Pro?

    Yep.  It's the easiest I have found. ( Or is it UVMapper classic?  I can't remember.  It's free anyway)

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847
    kyoto kid said:

    ..but isn't the whole idea of UV mapping to create material zones?

    No, UVing is to tell an image how to wrap around the model.

    ...so how do you set up material zones then?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,053
    kyoto kid said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ..but isn't the whole idea of UV mapping to create material zones?

    No, UVing is to tell an image how to wrap around the model.

    ...so how do you set up material zones then?

    you can actually do that in DS with the geometry editor tool 

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,843
    kyoto kid said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ..but isn't the whole idea of UV mapping to create material zones?

    No, UVing is to tell an image how to wrap around the model.

    ...so how do you set up material zones then?

    You select a group of polygons and make it a material zone. It's like using the geometry editor. the models are already UVMapped, you are just creating material zones.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    I use UV Mapper classic to make the uv templates I need to include with products, it's also great for consolidating a ton of seperate groups into one group (I often work with layers and layers of different bits and pieces) Hexagon sometimes makes a mess if I rename all the groups the same, and deleting all the unused ones in DS after making a conforming figure is tedious.. in UV Mapper classic it's like a couple clicks and typing a group name if I don't already have one that I want to use.  Also great for double checking and fixing if Hexagon left any extra material zones (the deaded default surface), again fixable in DS but easier in UV Mapper.  Before I got UV Layout I used just Hexagon's UV tools and UV Mapper classic, I got along okay, it's just a lot more tedious and time comsuming than UV Layout.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416
    th3Digit said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...so how do you set up material zones then?

    you can actually do that in DS with the geometry editor tool 

    Or in Hexagon, it's usually easier in Hex.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,847

    ...well yes and no as it can be extremely tedious, particularly on a large detailed model that has layered polys.

    I've used it for kitbashing and one small slip up often requires you to start all over again (and it is painful for me to keep holding down the Shift or CTRL key for long periods of time. 

    For example in one scene that used the Magnus Manor set.  I created a "Positif" division for the organ by using a second instance of the instrument on a smaller scale.  Creating a separate material zone for the entire bottom of the model so I could "turn it off" in the surfaces tab and just have the upper part of the case with pipework, took well over an hour because of all the hidden polys I had to remove, and backtracking if I highlighted too much (again digital painting is not my strong suit as I have stiff and unsteady hands).

    [see attached image]

    Can this be done in a modelling programme?

     

    such a horrid clang.png
    1200 x 960 - 2M
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