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Casting shadow onto background

khobar95_aca528e7cfkhobar95_aca528e7cf Posts: 0
edited December 1969 in New Users

I'm experimenting with building a character and using a background image. I want my character to cast a shadow onto the background image as if she's standing in the field shown in the image.

The "problem" is that the "plane" is visible in the final render. Without the plane I can't create a shadow, and with it, well, the results make it look like my character is standing in a dull gray square.

What's the correct way to have my character case a shadow on the background image?

Thanks.

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  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited June 2012

    You need a shadow catcher shader. I know that one can be made in the Shader Mixer for free but I do not have the link to the info. The pack of pwShaders for DS also has one. I hope someone with the free info pops in and helps you.

    Post edited by Jaderail on
  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    Three ways you can do this, as far as I know.
    One using a product called PWCatch http://www.daz3d.com/shop/pwcatch/
    Two using the Shader Mixer http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=120228
    and three doing it in a image manipulation program (Photoshop, Gimp etc)

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 23,155
    edited December 1969

    I had a similar problem. I got this shadow catcher on sharecg and it works great.
    http://www.sharecg.com/v/56594/View/7/Material-and-Shader/Shadow-Catcher-with-adjustable-opacity

  • khobar95_aca528e7cfkhobar95_aca528e7cf Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Szark said:
    Three ways you can do this, as far as I know.
    One using a product called PWCatch http://www.daz3d.com/shop/pwcatch/
    Two using the Shader Mixer http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=120228
    and three doing it in a image manipulation program (Photoshop, Gimp etc)

    Thank you. Since I am learning this I'm working through tutorials, and your second suggestion sounds like exactly what I'm needing.

    I'm following the tutorial step by step but am getting different results. Right from the beginning my screen looks a bit different to the one in the video. I'm hoping that it's just a difference between versions (3 vs 4) and not a show-stopper.

    The first difference is with Shadow Catcher - in the tutorial, applying the SC results in the plane turning black where it will be transparent and white where it will be opaque. For me I still get a black shadow on a gray plane.

    And then when you connect the "in shadow" to Opacity Color, the tutorial shows the shadows without the plane after render. I get the same black shadow on a light-gray plane.

    Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Try this thread which has the step by step info in text.
    http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=116187

  • khobar95_aca528e7cfkhobar95_aca528e7cf Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I got it! I did not have the rendering quality turned up to max. Lol.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Save Your Shader so you can use it again at a later date. I'm glad you got the help you needed.

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    Sweet result :coolgrin:

  • deepsixdeepsix Posts: 62
    edited December 1969

    barbult said:
    I had a similar problem. I got this shadow catcher on sharecg and it works great.
    http://www.sharecg.com/v/56594/View/7/Material-and-Shader/Shadow-Catcher-with-adjustable-opacity

    @ barbult

    Hi, can you tell me please how to get it to work? I tried unzipping the two files into my DAZ Content folder C:\Users\xyz\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\Shaders and it showed up OK in the Content area but when I try to drag it onto an object (e.g. a Plane primitive) it says "An error occured while reading the file, see the log file for more details".

    There is no useful info in the log file, just:
    "Executing DAZ Script file: C:/Users/xyz/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Library/Shaders/Shadow Catcher with Opacity.dsb
    Failed to load script file!

    I tried to load it into the DAZ IDE but it comes up blank, although file is Size: 9.96 KB (10,207 bytes)

    I don't have Shader Mixer since I am still on Studio Version 3.1 so it's not included - do I need that? Or Studio Version 4?

    Thanks.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited November 2012

    Shaders are not Drag and drop, they need to be applied to a Surface. Be sure your item (the plane) is selected then Select the Surface of the plane, you can use the Surface selection tool or open the Surfaces Tab and select it there. Then apply the shader with a double click.

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  • deepsixdeepsix Posts: 62
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    Shaders are not Drag and drop, they need to be applied to a Surface. Be sure your item (the plane) is selected then Select the Surface of the plane, you can use the Surface selection tool or open the Surfaces Tab and select it there. Then apply the shader with a double click.

    Hi Jaderail,

    Thanks very much for your help but yes I have already tried that standard method too as you describe (with both the object and surface selected then double click), not quite sure why I deviated to the 'drag-and-drop' in describing my problem but it is also possible in DS3 to use that method to apply a shader instead of double click (at least it is on my setup).

    In any case that creates the same error message, and does not work.

    Sorry to waste your time, maybe I should just buy pwCatch and forget the freebie :(

  • Miss BMiss B Posts: 3,071
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    Try this thread which has the step by step info in text.
    http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=116187

    This is the tutorial I followed to get it done it  --> http://3dpixelzone.com/WIP/studio/gnd.htm though in my case I only wanted the shadow to appear as if on the floor.
  • deepsixdeepsix Posts: 62
    edited December 1969

    Miss B said:
    Jaderail said:
    Try this thread which has the step by step info in text.
    http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=116187

    This is the tutorial I followed to get it done it  --> http://3dpixelzone.com/WIP/studio/gnd.htm though in my case I only wanted the shadow to appear as if on the floor.

    OK thanks but that all seems to be talking about Shader Mixer which I don't have since I don't have DSA (or DS4 yet which I think has Shader Mixer included).

    No big problem this probably wouldn't be much use to me since I need the ground object to be visible in order to produce AO shadows on my standing figures to get them looking right.

  • BejaymacBejaymac Posts: 1,846
    edited December 1969

    That shadow catcher shader over at ShareCG was done in DS4.0 and is in Binary format which means it will only work in DS4.0 and newer builds, that's what's causing your error message.

  • deepsixdeepsix Posts: 62
    edited December 1969

    OK, thx.

  • RenderPretenderRenderPretender Posts: 1,029
    edited December 1969

    Hi...

    I can't seem to get the shadow catcher over at ShareCG to work, but I may have installed it incorrectly as I can't find any specific instructions on it. I'm wanting to use it to modulate the opacity of my shadows, more than anything else. I have it installed in Shaders (DAZ 4.5), but not seeing anything going on when I click the icon.

    Thanks for any help!

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