People trying to recreate a unique character combo

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  • OdaaOdaa Posts: 1,548
    th3Digit said:

    the late Anne Rice

    is still very much alive.

    They may be confusing her with one of her relatives who died, including her husband or her sister, the less famous writer Alice Borchardt.

  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,838
    edited January 2018
    Odaa said:
    th3Digit said:

    the late Anne Rice

    is still very much alive.

    They may be confusing her with one of her relatives who died, including her husband or her sister, the less famous writer Alice Borchardt.

    They have the facts right when it comes to how Anne Rice defends her IP. She wanted Fanfiction.net at one time to take down any story using her characrters, although her stance has mellowed in the last, few years.

    As to the original question, if you were using entirely purchased content, obviously someone else could protentially recreate it exactly and could publish images, etc. that were close enough to yours and be perfectly within the EULA to do so.

    Like others have suggested, consulting a lawyer specializing in U.S. copyright law (if you are living or working in the U.S.) might not be a bad idea.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,851

    ...as long as my characters are used in tasteful image (and were not profited off of) I have no issue, but then again, we are talking about the Net.  If you've seen some of the things done with the Disney female characters, Ms. Rice's position is very understandable.

  • exstarsisexstarsis Posts: 2,128

    I find worrying about how to protect my IP once I'm really famous an excellent way of procrastinating on the work required to achieve said fame. It's really a problem that creates its own solution.

     

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,133

    Or if your graphic novel gets really big, you can hire artists to hand draw them. I doubt that is against the Daz EULA since it is purely 2D. And anyone can  copy anyone's characters anyway, whether it is 2D or 3D. It wouldn't be hard for even an amateur artist to recreate characters from something like Southpark or even the Simpsons. So it's up to the franchise to do a cease and desist or just freely allow fan art...

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,851

    ...I tried that route, you know how hard it is to get some artists as well as publishers to break from the standard "overly endowed" physique which is still the "norm" in  that industry?   It's the old adage, "sexy sells". 

    This is why once I have a good handle on LAMH and creating my own morphs in Hexagon, I am doing my SF story myself, as the females of the main race are flat chested.  Back in the 80s when I was looking to do it the traditional way and putting out feelers to set up a creative team (as there was no way I was going to attempt such an involved work as a "one man show"), I kept getting response that without boobs, they were not "sexy enough" as bigger sales usually mean a bigger paycheque.

    When it's a labour of love, you are best just doing it on your own.

  • Very interesting... reading through everything!!

    I just want to put it out there that I’m not ‘concerned’ rather, just curious.

    And thank you for clarifying what that part in the agreement meant because I’ve always been very out off by how I had interpreted it.

  • This is a fine line. While there have been products removed for violating an actor's image (I know of one on Rendo that had been removed), I have actually had artwork removed from another site due to the musician's legal counsel stating that it violated the musician's trademarked style.  In the end, it's a game of "does the person/company the model is styled after find it encroaching on their personal/professional life/work" or if something is stylized after, or outright copied off of a gaming/movie?  Then you have bigger issues of copyrighted characters, trademarked names/styles, clothing, scenes/sets, etc.

     

  • Karuki said:

    Who really owns the rights to how a character looks?

    I mix and match lots of different texture sets and character shapes with moph packs to create what I would percieve as a unique character.

    But would what stop someone picking up all the same products and recreating 'your' character for themselves and their own stories?

    I've seen so many 'what character is this' threads and I can't help but feel a little sorry for artists who create beautiful characters (albeit from a variety of pre-made sources), only to see them ripped off by someone who took a fancy to their work.

    Not sure in what context this question is..I have bought several models here at Daz just based on what artists have said they used in their renders. "I mix  X character with Y skin" kind of thing..or mixed outfits based on promos for figures because I loved the combination or even textures..I would guess that if you dial in some custom morphs no one can duplicate your character exactly though. And if someone doesn't want to share what character they used to create a piece, they certainly don't have to..but I do think it helps the vendors who create such wonderful items to begin with.

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037
    kyoto kid said:

    ...as long as my characters are used in tasteful image (and were not profited off of) I have no issue, but then again, we are talking about the Net.  If you've seen some of the things done with the Disney female characters, Ms. Rice's position is very understandable.

    Considering that Disney does things to those females, that aren't true to their heritage, some of those "recreations" on the net are a lot closer to the original stories than all those luke-warm Disney renditions.

    But I could understand Mrs. Rice not having a liking in her male characters mayhaps suddenly showing an interest in the opposite gender.

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