G3F 'Raine' character weirdness update (Cured, though not solved)

Blind Owl

I just bought this: https://www.daz3d.com/raine-for-genesis-3-female by addy, and encountered a very bizarre glitch (see attached render). This is the bare-bones default character load, no other scene elements, no morphs or even iRay textures applied.

Can anyone suggest a possible cause and a cure, short of asking for a refund? If it was a common problem, surely it would have been yanked or corrected by now.

Blind Owl

(Update): OK, now I'm really beefaloed. I've had 'Fiora for Eva 7' (https://www.daz3d.com/fiora-for-eva-7) for a while now, but only got around to giving her a look 20 minutes ago...and again it's "What the heck???" or words to that effect.

Besides the obvious boogers, there's also some weirdness in other parts of both faces, especially around the chin/jaw line.

If anyone can help me solve this mystery, I truly would appreciate it.

[ edit/afterthought: Eva 7 looks all right--no weirdness there--but applying the Fiora head morph produced the same weirdness. ]

murgatroyd314

This looks like you've got a morph with a nonzero default value contaminating your figure. What does your base G3F look like?

Blind Owl

Murgatroyd said:

This looks like you've got a morph with a nonzero default value contaminating your figure. What does your base G3F look like?

Good question, but I don't see how it could be. The characters were loaded from scratch into a new scene, and scrolling down their morph lists I don't see any non-zero values in the nose or chin areas, which seem the worst affected.

In the first attached render, the base G3F is at left; the centre one is G3F with the Raine head morph applied; the right-hand one is the Raine character default load.

The second render shows, in order, the default Eva 7; Eva7 with the Fiora head morph; and the Fiora character default load.

I also took a rummage through my other G3F characters to see if any of them showed similar symptoms. The third render shows Adele, Adeline, and Chandra, none of which (or whom, depending on your point of view) exhibit similar deformities.

 

agent unawares

Adeline and Chandra are deformed too. Look at the bizarre jaw dimples. Can't tell on Adele due to light bounce.

Load your Raine character, go to All Morphs, and check every one that has a non-zero value.

Blind Owl

agent unawares said:

Adeline and Chandra are deformed too. Look at the bizarre jaw dimples. Can't tell on Adele due to light bounce.

Load your Raine character, go to All Morphs, and check every one that has a non-zero value.

Right you are, agent unawares, though they're nowhere near as bad as in Exhibits 'A' and 'B'. I'll have another look tomorrow and run down the entire morph list, but if it is some kind of contamination, as Murgatroyd suggested, I'm damned if I know what could have caused it. This is the first time I've seen anything like it.

Blind Owl

Found the problem and an interim cure, though I still have no idea what's causing it.

Raine is a G3F character, not derived from V7 or Summer, yet for some reason she loads with the 'Summer' head morph pinned at 1.00 and the 'Victoria 7' head morph at 0.5, which produces the grotesque distortions. Zeroing both out (while leaving the 'Raine' head morph at 1.00, naturally) cures the problem. Several other G3F characters, besides Fiora and Chandra, have similar unwanted morphs applied without my knowledge and/or consent.

So for now it's just a matter of tracking down the morphs that don't belong and zeroing them out, but it is a nuisance. Later today I'll try uninstalling & reinstalling some of these characters, see if that cures it.

Thanks, Murgatroyd and agent unawares. I might have thought to check for morph contamination...eventually...and then again, maybe not.

[ Further update: it seems that Summer for V7 is the culprit, intruding herself into other G3F characters without an invitation. Even uninstalling both Summer and Victoria 7 doesn't remove the morphs or their effects. Not all are as extreme as they are in the Fiora and Raine examples, but...holy crap, this is bizarre! Don't know what else to say. Unless someone can suggest a permanent cure, I guess the next thing to do is open a support ticket. ]

murgatroyd314

If even uninstalling doesn't help, there's almost certainly an extra copy of FHMSummer.dsf (and possibly of other related files as well) somewhere in your data directory. Using you operating system's search tools, locate the copy that is not in /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/SilverRaziel/Summer/ , and delete it.

Blind Owl

Murgatroyd said:

If even uninstalling doesn't help, there's almost certainly an extra copy of FHMSummer.dsf (and possibly of other related files as well) somewhere in your data directory. Using you operating system's search tools, locate the copy that is not in /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 3/Female/Morphs/SilverRaziel/Summer/ , and delete it.

Thanks, Murgatroyd, I'll try that forthwith. Luckily the problem seems to be very recent--possibly within the last week or so--which suggests that some kind of update is responsible.