"Best Program" for turning images (renders) into paintings and Paint

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  • I didnt like the preview images of DAP website

  • Worlds_EdgeWorlds_Edge Posts: 2,153

    I downloaded DAP to try it and find that I prefer topaz. Dap appears to be much slower. However I’m going to play with it some more before I decide whether or not to purchase it. I do love to play with filters in general and to combine effects from various plugins. 

  • I'm going with the combo of DAP and Topaz. Mix those two plus some adjustments.

  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772
    edited November 2017
    avxp said:

    @Llynara any way to get some before and afters?

    That would really help...um...pretty please?

    Also, how extreme does it go?

    I posted some on another thread you started here, but I can post these before and afters here if you want. I'll be showing a bunch of stuff in the next installment of my hair tutorial. Now that Thanksgiving is done and NaNoWriMo is almost over, time to hit it again.

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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772
    avxp said:

    Long as we're all here. How are people making the images that partially move?

    I'm hoping the answer isn't After Effects. lol

    There are some pretty cool animated motions for Photoshop out there. Mike Sreda over at Graphic River does a bunch of them and just came up with one that creates lots of different effects: https://mikesreda.com/imagemotion/

    I have this, it's pretty cool. Haven't had a chance to play with it bunches, but I did manage to do animated fog. It's not perfect,  and I ran into an issue that irks me: saving as a gif relaly reduces the quality of the graphic. Trying to figure out if there are any workarounds: 

     

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,308

    Since examples are being shared. This is from AlienSkin's SnapArt4. That's a Photoshop Filter, so the price of entry is not cheap. The price of the Plugin is about what youd expect for a Photoshop filter. 

    If you can find a copy of SnapArt 3, I think that ran in Photoshop CS6, which was the last version with a perpetual license. 

    And I think either runs in Photoshop Elements. they *might* run in GIMP, but I'm not sure.

    There are over a dozen different "mediums" which the plugin will simulate. I tend to gravitate to the oil paint filter, which is what was used here. 

    First the render version. Then the oil paint one. Assuming they get uploaded in the order I attached them.

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  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318
    edited November 2017

    One of the things I like most about DAP is that it doesn't just throw a filter over your image, it analyses it and then paints it from scratch to a dimension preset that you pick from a drop-down list, and these dimensions can be much larger than your original image. Great if you've got a low-spec computer like mine that will tell you to forget it if you try to render a complicated image at a large resolution, or if you just don't want to wait around for ages while a big render completes when it's only going to have a painterly effect applied anyway. As long as your render has enough detail, it can be as small as you like and DAP can output it as something a lot bigger. The other thing I like about it is that each stage of the process can be output in separate layers to a PSD file if you choose, so that you can tweak or add other effects in Photoshop. I've not tried any of the online offerings and don't fancy the idea much anyway for various reasons, but I'd be surprised if they can do either of these things.

    There are lots of effect presets included, as well as plenty that can be downloaded from various places on the DAP forum. Many presets have several variations, and most let you pick your colour palette from either the one included with the preset, from your original image or from a variety of famous paintings. It's not all about Old Masters though. There are a few others scattered among the oils and watercolours - acrylic, pop art etc. Attached is a render which has met with a Graphic Novel preset and what it looked like before - the original render was no great shakes as far as I can remember and so it's nothing special, but even on my creaky machine it just took a few minutes to do. The original render is 1200 x 1600, and the DAP output is 3600 x 4800.

     

     

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  • NGartplayNGartplay Posts: 3,372

    Oh my, I used to use DAP to print out my artwork and sell it.  That was ages ago.  I don't know how it works anymore but it used to be stand alone and easy to use.

  • That imagemotion is crazy But alas, it's only Photoshop CC....

    I'm still CS....

    Wahahhhhaaaaa crying

  • EquisVoid said:

    I wouldn't pay anything for dap. I dont see this being anything good.

    Last time I checked DAP was by far the best program at automatically emulating the act of repainting an image. It actually paints every brush stroke individually. The only thing that comes close is I think Corel Painter, and you really need to be hands-on with that.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,297
    edited November 2017

    Corel Painter Essentials - painted and the render itself.

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  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 4,511

    been using DAP for many years, used topaz once. will try again since it's gotten some love here. I didn't hate it, i think i just ended up not needing it.

     

    DAP has left me with no regrets.

  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318

    been using DAP for many years, used topaz once. will try again since it's gotten some love here. I didn't hate it, i think i just ended up not needing it.

     

    DAP has left me with no regrets.

    That was pretty much my experience too. I do have other Topaz products and rate them highly, and I'm also considering adding Impressions to my toolbox at some point. DAP is the one I'd want to save from my hard drive in the event of a fire though :)

  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    avxp said:

    Long as we're all here. How are people making the images that partially move?

    I'm hoping the answer isn't After Effects. lol

    i would use my sony platinum video editor for this with different layers

    you can get this cheap at steam store

  • FenixPhoenixFenixPhoenix Posts: 3,181
    edited November 2017
    avxp said:

    Long as we're all here. How are people making the images that partially move?

    I'm hoping the answer isn't After Effects. lol

    You can indeed do this effect with Photoshop. You can also buy plug-ins that help you with the animation part. Search for "Imagemotion Photoshop Extensions". ;)

    Edit: Just noticed @Llynara already mentioned it XD!

     

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  • FenixPhoenixFenixPhoenix Posts: 3,181
    edited November 2017
    Llynara said:

    There are some pretty cool animated motions for Photoshop out there. Mike Sreda over at Graphic River does a bunch of them and just came up with one that creates lots of different effects: https://mikesreda.com/imagemotion/

    I have this, it's pretty cool. Haven't had a chance to play with it bunches, but I did manage to do animated fog. It's not perfect,  and I ran into an issue that irks me: saving as a gif relaly reduces the quality of the graphic. Trying to figure out if there are any workarounds: 

    Yes, @Llynara, there's a way to keep the quality of the gif (though keep in mind that it'll be a heavy graphic). Just make sure when you're exporting, that you set it to "adaptive" rather than selective, custome or any other option.

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  • cclesuecclesue Posts: 420

    Corel Painter from a few years back of grandkid. Expensive and requires a lot of work since the artist is actually laying down the "paint". I used to do a lot of this but got lazy and just let the computer do the stroking these days.

     
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  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,711
    edited November 2017

    I have DAP, I found every setting to toally suck, besides the ones that use reactor. All the rest is just repetitive ideantical brush stamps, looks obvious to my eye to be CG. I don't really use DAP often, sometimes if I am in a hurry and need a fast underpaint or something.

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  • deathbycanondeathbycanon Posts: 1,227
    edited November 2017

    I use photoshop actions. Here is a before and after sample: you can click for larger views if you like.

    I use this action: Realistic Painting Effect V2 - Painting Action but I have PS CS 5 I think the best ones are the ones for CS 6 they only work in cs 6 though. I like this softer effect painting, but they have all kinds of different painting effects, and even some drawing type ones.  Here's a link to all the painted effects they have, be sure to read the descriptions to be sure that the painted effect you want works with the PS version you are using. Photoshop Painting Actions 

    ETA the action I used works in most photoshop versions. "CS3CS4CS5CS6CC and CC 2014" as quoted from the site. :) 

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  • TheKD said:

    I have DAP, I found every setting to toally suck, besides the ones that use reactor. All the rest is just repetitive ideantical brush stamps, looks obvious to my eye to be CG. I don't really use DAP often, sometimes if I am in a hurry and need a fast underpaint or something.

    I feel the exact opposite. Reactor effects are really obviously typical post processing effects for the most part. DAP painting can be repetitive but if done right it actually looks like a human was involved.

  • smaker1smaker1 Posts: 281

    Hello

    on my experience, the best results are not with only one solution but with a mix of them. Keep in mind that your initial render is important: color used, compostion, ... 

    Here is a sample, the compression (original is 3000 * 4800) delete plenty of "paintings " details. And a cropped detail.

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  • Retro LadRetro Lad Posts: 471
    edited July 2019

    How about this FREE plugin for Gimp? Have any of you tried it, and if so how do you rate it; stinko, eh, mediocre, good, or great?

    https://gmic.eu/

    3 - G'MIC-Qt, a plug-in to bring G'MIC capabilities to the image retouching and painting software GIMP, Krita and Paint.NET. More than 500 filters are already available, sorted by category (Artistic, Black & white, Colors, Contours, Deformations, Degradations, Details, Color Grading, Frames, Layers, Light & shadows, Patterns, Rendering, Repair, Sequences, etc.).

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  • kenmokenmo Posts: 992

    fastbike1 said:

    I use Dynamic Auto Painter all the time. Here are two examples.

    Love your results....

  • ed3Ded3D Posts: 2,470

    Ruphuss said:

    Long as we're all here. How are people making the images that partially move?

    I'm hoping the answer isn't After Effects. lol

    i would use my sony platinum video editor for this with different layers

    you can get this cheap at steam store

    ... and  DaVinci  Resolve  ??   Thanx 

  • Most of this thread is now from long ago - I would be curious to see what people are doing now, and the sort of outcomes they get.

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 8,048

    This may be an old thread,  but I definitely liked the result with DAP  in the past. Will have to dust that program off,  and give it a try again. As with anything,  time and technique help with the results.  

  • I bought the current DAP and am trying it out.

  • Ghosty12Ghosty12 Posts: 2,080

    One unfortunate thing is that, Topaz Labs have now gone down the subscription route with their software, just like Adobe. 

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 6,067

    paulawp (marahzen) said:

    I bought the current DAP and am trying it out.

    Bought or subscribed to? I looked a day or so back and was not able to find a purchase option. 

  • SimonJM said:

    paulawp (marahzen) said:

    I bought the current DAP and am trying it out.

    Bought or subscribed to? I looked a day or so back and was not able to find a purchase option. 

    On the main product page there's a free trial and a Buy Now. 

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