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  • cdpro_2831bbd990cdpro_2831bbd990 Posts: 1,430
    AllenArt said:
    barbult said:
    Taoz said:
    barbult said:

    Question: The Vellus Hair has a morph called Benita Morph, but it loads with value 0%. Should it be loading at 100%?

    Would probably be a bad idea, since hairs can be used on a lot of different characters it's better to keep the basic settings neutral to avoid complications.

    AllenArt said:

    I love this character. Benita and some dial spins :) Not a complete render, obviously...still cooking.

    Laurie

     

    That's coming along nicely. You have inspired me to twirl some dials and see what I get.

    I've wanted a believeable Native American for a long time ;). Some of the ones in the store are nice, but they look like dark skinned caucasions ;). Not exactly what I was affter. LOL

    Laurie

    LY Cayenne is pretty good.

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,640
    Benita is VERY realistic. Cute too, looks like a girl I used to know.
  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175

    Here's the finished image. I boosted the contrast to make it look "harsher". Thanks Saiyaness :).

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/406366/

  • IldanachIldanach Posts: 217
    AllenArt said:

    Here's the finished image. I boosted the contrast to make it look "harsher". Thanks Saiyaness :).

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/406366/

    Nice render. Lovely detail in the texture and expression. Really well done. I might have to pick up Benita...

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310
    Saiyaness said:


     

    barbult said:

    She looks glum in all the promos,and I'd like to see how she reacts to a larger range of expressions. Can she smile? Does it look OK?


    I dislike the default smile G8/V8 has so I let gravity do its thing. I also just find smiles really creepy. Most expressions are creepy. Here's some expressions on Benita! 

    I highly recommend anyone on any character take advantage of all the lip morphs (and teeth morphs, jaw morphs) to find a smile that works for YOU. But smiles are still creepy though. 



     

    I find the Daz smiles tend to move the lips up too much. both in the corners and overall. When I smile the top center of my lip barely moves up at all, the daz figures it moves halfway up to the nose. (thankfully the facial bones make this way easier to fix) Generally I move the uper lip down the mouth corners down, the cheeks (nasolabial moth corners specifically) forwards and make the mouth wider

     

    Though I do find the longer you stare at a still image of someone smilling, the more they look like they're figuring out what the best way to cook you is.

     

    anyhoo what a fantastic looking charcter! My favorite thing is that each one seems better made than the last (and those ones were great)

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    j cade said:
    Saiyaness said:


     

    barbult said:

    She looks glum in all the promos,and I'd like to see how she reacts to a larger range of expressions. Can she smile? Does it look OK?


    I dislike the default smile G8/V8 has so I let gravity do its thing. I also just find smiles really creepy. Most expressions are creepy. Here's some expressions on Benita! 

    I highly recommend anyone on any character take advantage of all the lip morphs (and teeth morphs, jaw morphs) to find a smile that works for YOU. But smiles are still creepy though. 



     

    I find the Daz smiles tend to move the lips up too much. both in the corners and overall. When I smile the top center of my lip barely moves up at all, the daz figures it moves halfway up to the nose. (thankfully the facial bones make this way easier to fix) Generally I move the uper lip down the mouth corners down, the cheeks (nasolabial moth corners specifically) forwards and make the mouth wider

     

    Though I do find the longer you stare at a still image of someone smilling, the more they look like they're figuring out what the best way to cook you is.

     

    anyhoo what a fantastic looking charcter! My favorite thing is that each one seems better made than the last (and those ones were great)

    Great job!

    The teeth spoil it, which is my only slight niggle. Daz teeth need some lovin', which iirc EasyTeeth does a good job of. https://www.daz3d.com/easy-teeth-for-genesis-8-female-s-and-merchant-resource

    She's an attractive woman with a few years on her. :)

  • SaiyanessSaiyaness Posts: 715

    Thanks for all the lovely comments and renders!! If I'm checking on my phone I'm not usually signed in to reply, but I see everything! EVERYTHING. Mostly...

    Thanks J.Cade for mentioning the face bones, so what she said!! :p 

    I swear every character I try to do promos of them grinning/open-mouth smiling, but it just irks me too much. Seriously. Maybe I'm just jealous of people that can smile properly. I have a tiny mouth. I need the Glasgo Smile treatment. 

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,374

    Any tips on getting V8 eyelashes to conform accurately to Benita's eyelids?

  • SaiyanessSaiyaness Posts: 715
    xyer0 said:

    Any tips on getting V8 eyelashes to conform accurately to Benita's eyelids?

    Do you mean they're not loading and parenting to her correctly, or they're not sitting right on her eyes right? 

    I just had a quick play and they work okay on my end. Is it when certain expressions or morphs are used? I only tried eyes open/close. 

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,374
    Saiyaness said:
    xyer0 said:

    Any tips on getting V8 eyelashes to conform accurately to Benita's eyelids?

    Do you mean they're not loading and parenting to her correctly, or they're not sitting right on her eyes right? 

    I just had a quick play and they work okay on my end. Is it when certain expressions or morphs are used? I only tried eyes open/close. 

    Thanks, Saiyaness, I meant that they don't sit on (conform to) the eyelid like most people's eyelashes do. This is with no expression or additional morphs applied. It's mostly the bottom eyelash (too low) and the middle of the top eyelash (too high). Eyeliner disguises this and makes it a non-issue, but without make-up it's easily visible. I checked the renders on this thread and your promos, and all non-makeup images that are large enough to see the eyelash "origin" have the same issue that I'm having. So, I guess I'm just being ar. I often had this issue with G2F after head morphs. No one else ever complained about it with G2F or responded to the thread I started back then asking for a fix. But Genesis 3 cleared it up. I guess the problem's back with G8. And evidently I'm the only one on the forum who thinks it's a problem.

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,081
    edited August 2017

    ??? 

    I don't see Native American in this figure and I'm willing to bet that wasn't Lyoness' intention.

    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:
    AllenArt said:
    barbult said:
    Taoz said:
    barbult said:

     

    I've wanted a believeable Native American for a long time ;). Some of the ones in the store are nice, but they look like dark skinned caucasions ;). Not exactly what I was affter. LOL

    Laurie

    LY Cayenne is pretty good.

     

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:
    AllenArt said:
    barbult said:
    Taoz said:
    barbult said:

    Question: The Vellus Hair has a morph called Benita Morph, but it loads with value 0%. Should it be loading at 100%?

    Would probably be a bad idea, since hairs can be used on a lot of different characters it's better to keep the basic settings neutral to avoid complications.

    AllenArt said:

    I love this character. Benita and some dial spins :) Not a complete render, obviously...still cooking.

    Laurie

     

    That's coming along nicely. You have inspired me to twirl some dials and see what I get.

    I've wanted a believeable Native American for a long time ;). Some of the ones in the store are nice, but they look like dark skinned caucasions ;). Not exactly what I was affter. LOL

    Laurie

    LY Cayenne is pretty good.

    No offense to Lyoness, but I wanted "believable". I'm not sure if that character is supposed to be Native American but she doesn't much look like one ;). I didn't necessarily want pretty, but a face filled with character, a hard life and careworn. I'm pretty sure I got most of the way there :).

    Laurie

  • SaiyanessSaiyaness Posts: 715
    xyer0 said:
    Saiyaness said:
    xyer0 said:

    Any tips on getting V8 eyelashes to conform accurately to Benita's eyelids?

    Do you mean they're not loading and parenting to her correctly, or they're not sitting right on her eyes right? 

    I just had a quick play and they work okay on my end. Is it when certain expressions or morphs are used? I only tried eyes open/close. 

    Thanks, Saiyaness, I meant that they don't sit on (conform to) the eyelid like most people's eyelashes do. This is with no expression or additional morphs applied. It's mostly the bottom eyelash (too low) and the middle of the top eyelash (too high). Eyeliner disguises this and makes it a non-issue, but without make-up it's easily visible. I checked the renders on this thread and your promos, and all non-makeup images that are large enough to see the eyelash "origin" have the same issue that I'm having. So, I guess I'm just being ar. I often had this issue with G2F after head morphs. No one else ever complained about it with G2F or responded to the thread I started back then asking for a fix. But Genesis 3 cleared it up. I guess the problem's back with G8. And evidently I'm the only one on the forum who thinks it's a problem.

    Ohhhh! So you're complaining about G8's eyelashes in general - not just Benita's? :p You're preaching to the converted about transmapped eyelashes, and I know I'm not the best at making them. Drawing them is quite hard! I agree that the bottom lash line can be hard to get to look right. 

    Perhaps one day I'll try fibermesh eyelashes and see how they work, but I'll probably run into the same conforming issues as the current mesh eyelashes. Not to mention blinking, morphs, etc. Yikes. I like making skin, man. 

    Maybe someone else will come along and come up with a more elegant solution in the meantime! :) 

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,374
    edited July 2017
    Saiyaness said:
    xyer0 said:
    Saiyaness said:
    xyer0 said:
    Ohhhh! So you're complaining about G8's eyelashes in general - not just Benita's? :p You're preaching to the converted about transmapped eyelashes, and I know I'm not the best at making them. Drawing them is quite hard! I agree that the bottom lash line can be hard to get to look right. 

    Perhaps one day I'll try fibermesh eyelashes and see how they work, but I'll probably run into the same conforming issues as the current mesh eyelashes. Not to mention blinking, morphs, etc. Yikes. I like making skin, man. 

    Maybe someone else will come along and come up with a more elegant solution in the meantime! :) 

    Mate, your skins and face morphs are enough for me, tbh. Just keep on giving us that, and she's all right. I tried Lainey HD eyelashes and Great Lashes for Genesis 8 Female(s) on Benita as options. Eyelashes from left to right: Lainey HD (natural), Victoria 8 eyelashes (Benita), Great Lashes for G8F (brown 01). Top to bottom: Lainey HD (natural), Victoria 8 eyelashes (Benita), Great Lashes for G8F (brown 01). 

    BTW, thanks for the Hivewire3d Cat LAMH presets.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,426
    edited August 2017

    Here are a couple where I mixed Benita with some other morphs. The green dress is Wilmap's Sweet Spring Dress for G8F.

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  • SaiyanessSaiyaness Posts: 715
    xyer0 said:
    Saiyaness said:
    xyer0 said:
    Saiyaness said:
    xyer0 said:
    Ohhhh! So you're complaining about G8's eyelashes in general - not just Benita's? :p You're preaching to the converted about transmapped eyelashes, and I know I'm not the best at making them. Drawing them is quite hard! I agree that the bottom lash line can be hard to get to look right. 

    Perhaps one day I'll try fibermesh eyelashes and see how they work, but I'll probably run into the same conforming issues as the current mesh eyelashes. Not to mention blinking, morphs, etc. Yikes. I like making skin, man. 

    Maybe someone else will come along and come up with a more elegant solution in the meantime! :) 

    Mate, your skins and face morphs are enough for me, tbh. Just keep on giving us that, and she's all right. I tried Lainey HD eyelashes and Great Lashes for Genesis 8 Female(s) on Benita as options. Eyelashes from left to right: Lainey HD (natural), Victoria 8 eyelashes (Benita), Great Lashes for G8F (brown 01). Top to bottom: Lainey HD (natural), Victoria 8 eyelashes (Benita), Great Lashes for G8F (brown 01). 

    BTW, thanks for the Hivewire3d Cat LAMH presets.


    The Lainey ones look really good (but it's Raiya, our queen, come on! :p). I can't tell if it's the custom morphs making that bottom lash line look better or her trans-maps. 

    Food for thought though! :) I haven't got any characters in proper production at the moment, but I'll try harder on the lashes. :)

  • SaiyanessSaiyaness Posts: 715
    barbult said:

    Here are a couple where I mixed Benita with some other morphs. The green dress is Wilmap's Sweet Spriing Dress for G8F.

    Bloody gorgeous renders, Barbult! You make her skin look awesome! (And I love the expressions - not creepy at all! :p) 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,426
    edited August 2017
    Saiyaness said:
    barbult said:

    Here are a couple where I mixed Benita with some other morphs. The green dress is Wilmap's Sweet Spriing Dress for G8F.

    Bloody gorgeous renders, Barbult! You make her skin look awesome! (And I love the expressions - not creepy at all! :p) 

    Thanks! I'm having a great time with Benita, mixing her to make unique characters. I spent a lot of time today fixing up the eyes of my converted Teen Josie 7, so I had to make a Benita teen with her. This is 75% Teen Josie and 50% Benita. She looks like a girl who can't find her cell phone and is totally lost without it.

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    barbult said:
    Saiyaness said:
    barbult said:

    Here are a couple where I mixed Benita with some other morphs. The green dress is Wilmap's Sweet Spriing Dress for G8F.

    Bloody gorgeous renders, Barbult! You make her skin look awesome! (And I love the expressions - not creepy at all! :p) 

    Thanks! I'm having a great time with Benita, mixing her to make unique characters. I spent a lot of time today fixing up the eyes of my converted Teen Josie 7, so I had to make a Benita teen with her. This is 75% Teen Josie and 50% Benita. She looks like a girl who can't find her cell phone and is totally lost without it.

    That is a really great image; she looks petite and slightly younger, but not by much - mainly petite.

    I was thinking its more like her daughter has been nagging her because she can't find her phone. :)

  • LyonessLyoness Posts: 1,639
    AllenArt said:
    cdpro_2831bbd990 said:
    AllenArt said:
    barbult said:
    Taoz said:
    barbult said:

    Question: The Vellus Hair has a morph called Benita Morph, but it loads with value 0%. Should it be loading at 100%?

    Would probably be a bad idea, since hairs can be used on a lot of different characters it's better to keep the basic settings neutral to avoid complications.

    AllenArt said:

    I love this character. Benita and some dial spins :) Not a complete render, obviously...still cooking.

    Laurie

     

    That's coming along nicely. You have inspired me to twirl some dials and see what I get.

    I've wanted a believeable Native American for a long time ;). Some of the ones in the store are nice, but they look like dark skinned caucasions ;). Not exactly what I was affter. LOL

    Laurie

    LY Cayenne is pretty good.

    No offense to Lyoness, but I wanted "believable". I'm not sure if that character is supposed to be Native American but she doesn't much look like one ;). I didn't necessarily want pretty, but a face filled with character, a hard life and careworn. I'm pretty sure I got most of the way there :).

    Laurie

    LY Cayenne was never meant to be native american.

    To date, I've not attempted to make one.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,426
    edited August 2017

    I did a render of Benita with Lilith 7's skin, for variety.

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