Diversity & Versatility?
gbmorphs
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Just noticed the Diversity new releases aren't all that Diverse. You might want to look at the Diversity page and google the definition of Diversity. Just saying it might be cool if on your Diversity sale, you have some models of color, of size or something other than the same "Diverse" (caucasian skinny female ) models you create all the time. Or just not call it diverse.
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Well, what's in a name? I can't say I care much about the name of a sale. It's the sale setup, sale items and sale prices that counts for me.....
Or better yet, not be soo pedantic about it. While it might not be the greatest display of diversity, it is exactly what it means, variety, although on a smaller scale.
I would assume the Diversity part of the name is referring in particular to the First Class Faces set.
Well, they're inclusive of the vision-impaired (glasses set) and feature the first Genesis 8 product for ethnic face morphs (they would have done better to do the Asian or African American face as the lead promo, but perhaps they were afraid people would jump on the PA's case for not including skin textures.)
Just another cringe inducing marketing thing. Buzzwords ugh.
I can't wait to get the First Class Faces set. I love Raiya and I am not buying any characters for G8, I have enough G3. @Raiya, If you're listening, thanks for this, please do some bodies next.
The face set is diverse.
bits and bobs
I fail to see the diversity in 4 beautiful young female faces even if of different races
its rather like Logan's Run in DAZ land, except for George
Daz... you really need to get it together with actually following through on emphasizing more diversity, especially after how surprisingly well you did with Genesis 3.
One step forward, three steps back. smh
Yes I was quite surprised by the diversity and versatility sale title.This is another example of why you need a diverse staff base. Much like that parade in Canada that had the black folk dressed in Khaki's pushing a float and the white folk, dressed in white singing away. This was apparently also a great representation of diversity. Never occured to them how that might look.
As I recall it took a while with Genesis 3 too.
All I will say is this: Representation matters.
Just think about that one for a while.
+1
TBF I just did that and what pops up was
While "diversity" is often now used as a byword for including persons of different ethnicities, that is far from its only, or even, most common uses. Given that the new products, are a mix of poses, morphs, a clothing prop and shaders that fits well under the definition of "a range of different things".
Lets be fair, the advertisement people have to call it something other than "The random stuff thats new today!" Now if they'd had that title and the new items had included three white characters (or you know one atleast) I'd probably be looking askance at it right with you.
And note this is not me in any way commenting on whether Daz should or should not have more characters of different ethnicities.
(the sale does include sticking Raiya's store on sale, and, given that Raiya has more non-white characters for G3F than white... it actually works pretty well as a sale for diversity in the other way too)
Today's sale has a product with 4 different faces -> Diversity
Foot Morphs, Hand Morphs, Hair Shaders, Poes, Eye Morphs, and Face "accessories" -> Versatility
To add to J Cade's finding, here's Merriam Webster's:
" the condition of having or being composed of differing elements : variety; especially : the inclusion of different types of people (such as people of different races or cultures) in a group or organization programs intended to promote diversity in schools
2 : an instance of being composed of differing elements or qualities : an instance of being diverse a diversity of opinion"
Somes posters have zeroed in on a current popular use of the term, but it is not the only use nor the oldest.
Umm... Daz... Just noticed the Diversity new releases aren't all that Diverse on you Diversity Sale page. You might want to look at the Diversity page and google the definition of Diversity. Just saying it might be cool if on your Diversity sale, you have some models of color, of size or something other than the same "Diverse" (caucasian skinny female) models you create all the time. Or just not call it Diversity.
I'm hoping this pose is not too contrevsal for the moderators. My last post used a 8 letter word that seem to be more offensive than a Diversity Sales without any Diversity.
Why are you focusing on one type of diversity instead of seeing that the selection of products being advertised are capable of making the figures we have so far (no, there isn't a model of color available here for G8F as yet) more diverse in appearance.
Context.
Given discussion of figures, and general word usage, when you are talking about people and diversity, you aren't talking about things like eyelash shapes.
what....didn't this thread get deleted, or am i having a stroke?
Ugh! Not again!
No, it didn't get deleted; the OP started a new one that will likely end up getting merged with the original, then possibly locked.
oh. ok. cause I thought for sure, i was going crazy for a minute there. O_o
Threads merged. Please don't start duplicate threads on the same subject.
Diversity would be having ethnic and muscle morphs available the first week of the figure's release instead of having to wait months to get them like we did with Gen 3.
I'll never stop insisting that DAZ makes the best figures hands-down, but I don't particularly like their cookie cutter character of the month releases and the splitting up of ethncity and creature creator morph sets.
I would be very happy if in the first three months after the release of Genesis 8 male and Michael 8, we could get Darius & Monique 8, Lee & Mei Lin 8, and Kimo & Kalea 8. Throw in the creature creator morphs and growing up morphs, and I will be extremely happy(and broke).
Actually for the next Genesis, Genesis 9 I guess, I've like to see a Genesis 9 Morph Pro Debut bundle with the head & body morph bundle and I would like if DAZ made or commished you to make, your series of Faces of the World morphs along with a set of 12 appropriate variant texture sets and body shapes even though I have FaceGen and could do it myself, there is something to be said about a bundle that is nicely and neatly organized from a 3rd party's perspective. That alone sounds like a 2 year project for a one person crew. And maybe add the genitalia to the body morph products as it always seemed sort of out of place to include them with character pro bundles and not anatomy related products and bundles. Also with Genesis 9 debut I would like a Hair Pro bundle of 12 typical hair styles for the Faces of the World. So 12 for G9F and later G9M. I also say I'd like the G9M to debut the same day as the G9F but other have indicated that ain't going to happen because of sales reasons although I think with the emergence of game making and animation hobbyists that old fashion model and art still dynamic will change that sales data.
It would be cool with Genesis 9 debut the customers could be off and running and later Genesis 9 bi-weekly or whatever releases would bring refinement and clothing fashion and story genre products.
I guess we will never get new anatomy sets like with V4 & M4 again either with the lower poly counts so I should stop putting off buying that and wait for the next sale.
The dictionary says diversity can meann a range of different things. I'm pretty sure that was the intention. Diversity can mean a range of ethnicities and many other things, too. Just, as noted, probably not in this case. :)
And the thing is, the other dictionary definitions of Diversity would apply to... just about every other sale ever.
So it'd be really weird to use the term for just 'a variety of stuff'.