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Anyone have the i7-6950X (10-core CPU)?

PA_ThePhilosopherPA_ThePhilosopher Posts: 1,039
edited May 2017 in The Commons

I was curious if any power-users out there have any experience with this 10-core processor in CPU-dependent applications. I'd imagine it would be very helpful for render engines that are CPU-based and support multi-threading.

The next step up from this I suppose would be going to a 16-core Xeon. But that gets very pricey very quickly. 

-P

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  • X3ZX3Z Posts: 14
    edited May 2017

    This is really great CPU. I've got +30% performance per core(!!) when utilizing Intel Embree.

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    sign me up for one of those !

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,932

    Is that the one that the Ryzen 7 1700X more-or-less natched or is it another step up the Intel range?

  • PA_ThePhilosopherPA_ThePhilosopher Posts: 1,039

    I think the Ryzen 7 was competing with an i7 8-core. I don't think this chip has a rival as of yet.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653

    I just got back from having a new system built it was a bit too much with that one...

  • NeurohackerNeurohacker Posts: 14
    PA_ThePhilosopher said:

    I think the Ryzen 7 was competing with an i7 8-core. I don't think this chip has a rival as of yet.

    I built a new system around the Ryzen 7 1800X and have been very satisfied with the performance.  Base clock vs base clock the 1800X stacks up rather well versus the 6950X in both single and multi-threaded benches, especially at 1/3 of the cost. Granted it gives up a bit at the memory bandwith, dual vs quad channel, but if you do not have money to burn it is a very good chip.

  • PA_ThePhilosopherPA_ThePhilosopher Posts: 1,039
    edited May 2017
    PA_ThePhilosopher said:

    I built a new system around the Ryzen 7 1800X and have been very satisfied with the performance.  Base clock vs base clock the 1800X stacks up rather well versus the 6950X in both single and multi-threaded benches, especially at 1/3 of the cost. Granted it gives up a bit at the memory bandwith, dual vs quad channel, but if you do not have money to burn it is a very good chip.

    The Ryzen is a worthy chip, as long as people are aware of its limitations for prosumer/professional use. As for the base clock comparison, I'm not sure how helpful that comparison is, since the base clock of the 6950X is only 3 Ghz, compared to the 3.6 Ghz of the Ryzen. I'd imagine that most prosumers interested in the 6950X won't be sitting on a half-utilized $1,700 chip. They will probably take it to its fullest potential with a significant overclock (Evidently, this chip handles overclocking very well, as long as your motherboard can push enough voltage to the hungry 10 cores). 

    -P

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  • NeurohackerNeurohacker Posts: 14
    edited May 2017

    I wholeheartedly agree, do not get me wrong, letting a 1500$ chip idle at base clock, especially one that will over clock extremely well (at least 4+ GHz), would be a waste of money.  I was looking at my CPU-Z benchmark results as I wrote that little blurb.  Once you push the 6950X past a 30%+ OC there is not much of a race, especially with how slight standard OC of Ryzen seem to have.  Sure, there are those that have hit the lottery and can exceed 5 GHz, mine hits a wall around 4, but it seems those are somewhat rare.

    Still, if you do not have the money to throw at a 1500$ chip, 500$ motherboard, an equal amount in RAM and a good liquid cooling rig to really utilize it, the Ryzen solution could be worth exploring if you want a plethora of threads to throw at rendering at a fraction of the cost.  As a dabbler I have found it to be very cost efficient while those who are more professional-leaning will undoubtedly go with the more robust Intel solution.  I did not want to derail the OP's discussion topic, but I wanted to toss my expereince in for thought. My last rig had a 3570K @ 4.3 GHz on air but I wanted more threads than what the standard i7's could offer within a reasonable budget.

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  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,653

    Since they had not yet built my system I went back and am getting this chip. There is a bit of a wait but my current system still works fine..

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    PA_ThePhilosopher said:

    I was curious if any power-users out there have any experience with this 10-core processor in CPU-dependent applications. I'd imagine it would be very helpful for render engines that are CPU-based and support multi-threading.

    The next step up from this I suppose would be going to a 16-core Xeon. But that gets very pricey very quickly. 

    -P

    Just ordered the thermaltake case you have in another thread; I'm currently considering options; my budget will will stretch to 10 cores, but 500 for two cores is rediculous, so it will be either the 8 core, or more likely an AMD option. It's time they had some support and it should be fine for what I need.

    I am curious about the rumoured Ryzen dural chip systems though.

  • PA_ThePhilosopherPA_ThePhilosopher Posts: 1,039
    edited May 2017
    nicstt said:

    Just ordered the thermaltake case you have in another thread; I'm currently considering options; my budget will will stretch to 10 cores, but 500 for two cores is rediculous, so it will be either the 8 core, or more likely an AMD option. It's time they had some support and it should be fine for what I need.

    I am curious about the rumoured Ryzen dural chip systems though.

    Nice! You will be happy with that case, as there is a ton of space to do whatever you want inside.

    Are you building a quad rig? If so, just be careful with AMD, as I think the Ryzen chips are limited to 24 lanes, which means you would only be able to effectively do a 3 GPU setup at 8x/8x/8x. And you may also be limited in terms of overclocking. (I have heard that AMD chips do not overclock very well, since they already run hot. But I cannot comment on that as I have not researched it enough.)

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  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited May 2017

    Just a quick note about overclocking Intel.  While this relates to the I7-7700K, the fact that it's an Intel chip shows that even Intel isn't 'immune' to overheating issues when overclocking.

    http://wccftech.com/intel-i7-7700k-owners-flood-forums-with-overheating-complaints/

    Intel's recommendation is to NOT overclock the 7700k.  That's a 4 core chip, though... just bringing this up because as always YMMV when it comes to overclocking.

    The advantage of Ryzen (for Prosumers) at the moment is that you are getting similar performance to the Intel countepart for roughly half the price.  Intel does a little better in gaming (at least the I7-7700k does), but for rendering Ryzen is stacking up quite nicely.

    THAT being said, if you aren't looking to buy a system immediately, the rumormill is quite abuzz about more AMD and Intel chips coming down the pike this quarter.  AMD has some 16 core/32 thread chips in the pipeline, aimed at enthusiasts, along with 32 core Naples chips (intended for servers), both slated to be announced at Computex at the end of May.  These are supposed to hit the market this quarter, but realistically we are probably looking at Q3 for significant availability.

    The 16 core Snowiy Lake chip reporetedly has an accompanying chipset, the X399 to go along with the 16 core Snowy Owl chip. 64 PCIe Gen 3 lanes, quad channel memory, etc. etc. etc.

    http://wccftech.com/amd-cpu-roadmap-leak-7-nm-starship-14nm-naples-snowy-owl-zen-core/

    http://wccftech.com/amd-computex-event-radeon-rx-vega-x399-hedt/

    Not to be outdone, Intel has some I9's in the pipeline apparently.

    http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-x-core-i9-7920x-7900x-7820x-7800x-x299-leaked/

    The 7920x is supposed to have 12 cores and 24 threads.The accompanying x299 chipset is indicated to have 44 Gen 3 PCIe lanes.

     

    So, short form is, it may pay to wait 2-3 months to upgrade, because things are getting very interesting...

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    PA_ThePhilosopher said:
    nicstt said:

    Just ordered the thermaltake case you have in another thread; I'm currently considering options; my budget will will stretch to 10 cores, but 500 for two cores is rediculous, so it will be either the 8 core, or more likely an AMD option. It's time they had some support and it should be fine for what I need.

    I am curious about the rumoured Ryzen dural chip systems though.

    Nice! You will be happy with that case, as there is a ton of space to do whatever you want inside.

    Are you building a quad rig? If so, just be careful with AMD, as I think the Ryzen chips are limited to 24 lanes, which means you would only be able to effectively do a 3 GPU setup at 8x/8x/8x. And you may also be limited in terms of overclocking. (I have heard that AMD chips do not overclock very well, since they already run hot. But I cannot comment on that as I have not researched it enough.)

    Not 4; simply because i'm not aiming to do water cooling; i may change my mind though.

    But am seriously considering seeing what the dual ryzen are.

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