Int'l Daz Sites
nelsonsmith
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Does anyone know of any Daz groups from other countries or continents, Japan, S. America, Russian etc, or any artists from other countries working in Daz that have gallery sites?
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Not sure I understand as the members here and at the various art galleries like DA are from all over
For example is there the equivalent of a Japanese, or a Russian Daz site where those respective languages would be predominate?
Daz 3d is after all an American Company, so it is going to have a site based in the US. It isn't a huge multi-national concern.
I think the closest you'd find would be Facebook, perhaps private invitations or if the page makes it clear it's for all (country) artists to post their work.
Hi nelsonsmith
A lot of people use http://www.deviantart.com to show and even try to sell their Daz art on they have a daz gallery, Is that the kind of alterntive gallery site your thinking about?
Or maybe sharcg.com. you can post to their gallery they have a frebie section for poser and daz as well . and tons of people from all over the world go there
Of course one of my favorit hang outs is http://www.cgsociety.org/
those are just a few static art galleries I won't bore you with the animation site galleries
I've been able to find lots of Japanese users on an art site called prixiv. Looking to see if I can find a similar site for Russia and parts of Europe.
Daz doesn't seem to cater at all to Spanish and Latin American countries in either themes, or with characters, so finding those might be difficult, but going to see if I can find any of those as well.
My desire is to see specifically what other cultures are doing as for as art with the software without having to figure out who lives where, and I can get a big picture. Contrary to some beliefs culture does influence art and here in the West certain themes are very prevalent that you might not necessarily see in other cultures, or at least you might see them handled differently.
@Ivy I'm registered with cgsociety, but it never ocurred to me to ever look for Daz artists there. Silly me.
La pagina de daz3d.com no esta en español por eso no hay usuarios que utilizan daz.
Lo mismo va con todo los paises.
The website daz3d.com is not in spanish this might be the reason there aren't so many spanish users.
Same goes for any other country
Good point, but I'm certain that there have to still be user groups from other countries. For instance there are several Daz tutorials in German on Youtube, so there must be a German Daz users group somewhere or a significant number of German artists using the software.
One method may simply be to look up art sites for difference countries and see if any Daz artists are submitting work there which was how I stumbled across the Japanese site. The odds are that foriegn users not well acquainted with English, would not be found in the Daz Forums and other predominantly English speaking sites, though many countries have their own versions of things like Facebook and the like for just that reason.
While it is true that the main site for DAZ3D is in English, if enough of a demand exists for a Spanish language subforum, perhaps that could be done.
Si bien es cierto que el sitio principal de DAZ3D está en inglés, si existe suficiente demanda para un subforo de idioma español, tal vez eso podría hacerse.
Blender seems to be unusually popular in Spain & Latin America.
Blender being open source, is easier for people to initiate translations of manuals and tutorials, and anyone can actively seek participation from specific groups. This is something Daz has been a bit neutral about. Also the model for Blender is slightly different in that one is creating their own content, they aren't reliant on someone else catering to them or not.
I mean for goodness sake, nobody has even modeled a sombrero for the Daz store. What little Spanish cultural items you can find are from the M3 V3 and S3 days, and few new users are going to go through the trouble of getting that stuff to work with the newer figures and Iray engine. Spain or Latin America may as well not exist as far as Daz is concerned
I'm not knocking Daz, which is an incredible bit of software, just stating the lay of the landscape, and western Daz users don't seem all that eager to change the situation. Bring it up and you get preemptive responses as to why it won't work even though it hasn't really been tried.
Well, while they are at it I would like to see an update of the V4 oriental hairstyles styles too but I'll probably try that myself for personal use.
I know there is a place called DAZ Schule.. well now its called https://tutorial-cafe.de/ where thes teach DAZ and related stuff.. I found that after I had a relatively good understanding about the program.
And yes there are people connecting on dA eg for spanish speaking users
You don't know that, especially if such items exist in other stores for the newer figures. DAZ doesn't always accept things that are submitted for possible sale here and sometimes the person that makes an item will take it elsewhere if DAZ isn't interested.
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I don't know for a fact what items Daz has opted not to sell, I'm simply looking at the landscape of what we have to choose from. As for the excuses as to why we don't have a lot of those items; that I do know, because the threads are here and you can read the responses. There is always an excuse. As of yet no PA has come out and said they've attempted to craft some items with a Spanish theme that were rejected (and if you look at the other sites you don't see a lot there either), so what choice does one have but to come to the conclusion that it either hasn't occured to anybody to try it, or no one wants to?
From a marketing standpoint, I'm simply saying that's a potential revenue stream that's been completely ignored, because in case anybody looked the Latin population of America isn't necessarily shrinking and other industries have been trying wisely to tap into that market.
This makes no sense to me, there are many users from other countries both here and at other sites such as rendo and I have met a few at DA and other sites. there are PAs also from other countries both here and at other sites. Just because a cultural item isn't in one of the stores doesn't mean that the west has stiffled it's creation. Surely if a sombrero was a popular model to have, there would be a ton of them in other stores and on the web and I can't find that many. Why not let DAZ worry about the marketing for their store and look for other needs outside in other 3D places, it's what I do. Maybe the Latin popluation is too busy with other things to worry about rendering and 3D models, LOL.
Yes, and a lot of people in the Americas (and the US) speak Spanish, so you'd think...
think would be easier to craft ethnic faces with genesis 3, all the facial bones!
Assuming that Latin American items would only appeal to a Spanish speaking populace, is kinda' the problem. I'm not Spanish, but I'd love to have a Mariachi character, Spanish military garb, or a Conquistador to play around with.
This is kinda' the whole reason I was looking for foreign art sites in the first place. A lot of the stuff I'm wanting to do simply isn't represented in the Daz store, or in the galleries, and I figured my odds would be better if I went looking in a more likely place.
I couldn't care less about Daz's marketing strategies I'm simply looking to expand my scope as an artist.
there is plenty of V4 and M4 stuff, Flamenco dancers, vairious dresses and Spanish mens clothes, I think I even have a sombrero! certainly a poncho, I know I have a lot of it I have yet to use and a Hacienda, a courtyard/ portico, various cacti etc
I am guessing its more to do with the market for fantasy or sexy wear that brings in the cash and a lot of the stuff is PC+ and chep too.
You'd think that. I believe sometimes people forget that this is supposed to be a melting pot of cultures, though I can see how it's very easy to do if you look at the majority of media that gets produced.
I was simply looking for alternatives and was hoping someone might be able to direct me to some sites, I didn't know I'd end up having to defend my reasons for wanting to do so.
@Linwelly Thanks, that looks like an excellent suggestion! :)
Well honestly, Latin America mostly is into the same clothing as the rest of the western hemisphere nowadays. You'll see that traditional folk clothing only in the relevant European country during a special day event or holiday for the most part. LOL, even in USA on a day like Saint Patrick's Day or Cinco De Mayo what you will see are green t-shirts or a Mexican themed t-shirt and not traditional clothing.
Well if one looks at international editions of magazines like Vogue, it becomes apparent that clothing in areas like Peru for example do not exactly mimic Western Fashion. We simply think everybody wears our stuff the way we do.
But that's not the issue, I simply want to see what other cultures are doing with a free software application like Daz studio. Is the idea that somebody from a different culture than yourself might use a technology in a completely different way such a difficult concept to grasp?
A shepherd in silk pants in the mud? Those were staged and not exactly traditional although very pretty.
No different than the staged stuff you see in American fashion mags, but with their unique cultural flare and you're going to see those differences with any culture, and that's what I'm specifically wanting to see. It's not even about "traditional" clothing, it's about a different perspective and how that perspective affects art.
I've given up on the idea that Daz is going to cater to anything other than it's target demographic, but that doesn't mean other people still aren't finding ways to appeal to their aesthetic sensibilities whether that means modeling their own own stuff, or figuring out new ways to achieve certain effects.
nelsonsmith - Personally I think this is a pretty cool head gear & I would be tempted to buy it if it was a product in the store
Oh, I like traditional clothing too but I don't think it will make a comeback until it is wash & wear and looks much better than the cheap cotton aestetic that is so popular everywhere now. I actually have some traditional folk clothing and it is made to last & washes very well and lucky it is not so different that people think what is he wearing? As far as DAZ well I think the gamer and novel and media market has to change before you see a big change. I've very thankful for at least the Western & Oriental period clothing mostly in V4/M4 generation. Actually it adds up over V4/M4 - Genesis 2 mostly. It seems to have slacked off with Genesis 3 somewhat or maybe gone back to ancient times fashion cycle.
DAZ's "target demographic" is DAZ Studio users primarily; nothing more, nothing less. DAZ also has a obligation of sorts to see that the Published Artists are successful, since without them there are no new products to sell in the store. The customer also has a part in this; they are the ones that contribute to the success of both the PA and DAZ3D buy purchasing the products and suggesting new ones. However, I don't think the customers are, in some cases, willing to do everything it takes to get the message to the PA about products they want, as I've suggested in other threads here.
Actually I'm just going to say you make a good point.
Since I initiated the question, I've actually figured out how to find what I've been seeking, so I'm pretty good.