How do I explain Daz Studio to friends

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  • IkyotoIkyoto Posts: 1,159

    21st century crayons.

  • prixat said:

    Virtual Barbies and GI Joes. 

    Lyoness said:

    I call Vickie a Digital Barbie.

     

    That would be CGI Joes! laugh

    LOL!

  • laugh LOL 

    prixat said:

    That would be CGI Joes! laugh

     

  • OstadanOstadan Posts: 1,130

    I sometimes present DS at fantasy conventions; one of my slides is blind men feeling an elephant, and reporting that it's like staging a play, like photography, like dressing dolls, like model railroad dioramas, like storyboarding for conventional art, or like making porn (that's the poor guy who pulls the tail).  Everyone's muse is a bit different.

  • nelsonsmithnelsonsmith Posts: 1,337
    edited February 2017

    It is a bit of a problem.   Simply saying you do CG art is technically correct, but then people mistakingly  believe that I'm actually sculpting and modeling; which is down the road, but not I'm not there yet.  Thing is if you elaborate any more than that, people tend to not want to give you credit for actually having created anything at all.  It's a bit discouraging overall, because as user friendly as Daz is,  it still takes a tremendous amount of work to get good compositions and something unique.

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  • Wait, people here have...   friends?

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    It's a compulsive shopping software which creates hours of bargain-hunting that would not otherwise exist; a one-stop solution which allows users the opportunity to adopt that 'poverty-stricken' look without even leaving their desks. You can create some quite neat art with it too :)

    +1

    ... And thanks for the laugh too. laugh

    McGyver said:

    Incidentally, I gave up trying to explain 3D to people... It's fairly hopeless.

    It basically goes like this:

    3D artist:  "I make 3D Art" or "I make 3D models"

    Ordinary person: "Hu?"

    3D artist: " They are images (or 3D simulations of real world objects) made on the computer using special software... Sort of like the characters and scenery in the Pixar movies... Either animated or still images"

    From here on in the person either identifies themselves as an enlightened individual or a philistine.... Or they absolutely don't care and feign understanding.

    Philistine: "Hu... Like you work for the movies?"

    Enlightened: "Oh, that's cool... I read about that..."

    Indifferent: "Oh, cool..."

    From this point you are faced with three choices...

    For the philistine, proceed no further, it's useless, you have a better chance explaining fusion plasma dynamics to your deaf great grandparents... Bonus points if you don't even know what fusion plasma dynamics are and your great grandparents have been deceased for fifty years...

    Enlightened... well, that's simpler, but you have to proceed cautiously depending on what you render and how enlightened they are... If all you render is penguins riding meerkats or nude primates in sexy poses, you might want to feel out the situation before showing anyone your renders... Granted, who doesn't love a little chimpanzee cheesecake, but be cautious, we live in changing times and you don't want to freak anyone out... Even enlightened has levels and limits... Remember, you don't want "you wanna see some renders?" to sound like, "you wanna see my etchings?"(wink-wink, nudge-nudge...)... Unless you want it to sound like that, in which case just go right to the chimps and let the chips fall where they may...

    Indifferent... That's usually about the same as the philistine, but without the blank Labrador retriever look... It's more of a vaguely sincere "Okay, are you done talking now?" look... This is usually because the indifferent person doesn't care what you just said, it could be "I knit sweaters for the homeless ", "I collect severed goat heads" or "I am the dark one prophesied by the ancient scriptures, I have come to bring darkness and despair to all!"... It doesn't matter because the answer is always "cool..."  They are just giving a you a moment to speak while they catch their breath before telling you more about their life and how awesome they are... Or lamenting how terrible their life is... There really isn't much difference between terrible and awesome because it's usually built on the same foundation of self delusion and stupidity. In this case, just let them go back to telling you all about themselves, it's just easier.

     

    +1

    ... And another thanks for the laugh too. laugh

  • TSasha SmithTSasha Smith Posts: 27,373

    I just am faced with computer Luddites basically with my family.

    Are artistic creative people just not technologically minded.

    Brother says why model it on a computer when he can build it out of wood etc......

    My daddy uses computer software and a big device to cut into wood to make stuff.  

  • TSasha SmithTSasha Smith Posts: 27,373

    Wait, people here have...   friends?

    Lol um I guess I do.  Wow Amazing!

    Spit said:
    xyer0 said:

    Send them a greeting card made with D|S.

    I wouldn't recommend this. Then they and all their friends start asking you to make cards for them...as a favor, of course. laughlaughlaugh

    I learned not to do art for others for free.  They want the hair in a style that I happen not have at the moment or something is not quite right which means it is never right and they ain't paying a penny or a dime to help me get the right hair or the right outfit if it exists or anything like that.  It is all basically unsolicited advice that drives me crazy

  • SotoSoto Posts: 1,450
    edited February 2017

    Friend: What do you do?

    Me: 3D content

    Friend: For what?

    Me: DAZ Studio

    Friend: What is that?

    Me: Digital Barbies

    Friend: WTF Why?

    Me: Fun and profit

    Friend: OMG People buy that? What they do with that?

    Me: Images, maybe animation

    Friend: For what?

    Annoyed Me: For... whatever people need images or animations for. Like when people do digital painting with Photoshop for whatever reason. But in 3D with DAZ Studio. Let`s get ice cream.

    Friend: ... OK

     

    That`s real, always the same routine, I have been there many times and every answer, no matter what combination, leads to the same questions. It never fails. That`s the shortest way and combination to deal with it.

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  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957

    I think the reason I don't say I make CG art is that I feel weirdly guilty if they assume I'm making all the wonderful models and textures. 

    This... The one model I've ever made that I'm somewhat happy with is the one I use in my avatar render. I made the mistake once of showing someone art that I made, and they were super impressed, so much so that I felt weirdly guilty and explained I didn't make the models. The look on their face, followed by the "Oh... ," left me feeling about 2 feet tall. After that, if someone asks what I do, I tell them I'm in graphic design. They feel content with that answer and don't push it any futher usually. Much better answer than saying I'm a writer... then they want to know what I've got published... and again, if it's self-published or they've never heard of it, it's that same look and "Oh..." If anyone gives me any crap online, I just point out that I'm a photographer working with digital content--no better or worse than a traditional photographer. Let your art speak for itself. Your methods really only matter to other artists and so-called experts.

  • jb16jb16 Posts: 52

    I just tell them that I am a 3D illustrator. It's sometimes vague, but they do understand it kinda.

  • jb16jb16 Posts: 52

    I just tell them that I am a 3D illustrator. It's sometimes vague, but they do understand it kinda.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,085

    The other thing that really confuses people is "3D"... 

    "Oh, like the movies where you wear the glasses!..."  

    No... And however you explain from there on in, its the blankish confused look of a dachshund at a seminar on mutual funds...

     

    Anyone take pictures for textures? 

    Thats a great one... Either explaining or looking up to see people wondering why you are taking pictures of bark or a sidewalk... That and getting hassled by people who want to know why you are taking pictures of a rock...

    Not curious, like you are part of some terrorist cell and you are going to use a picture of grass in your plot... 

    Megh... It's part of the reason I decided to mostly use Filter Forge for anything that didn't absolutely need to be an photo image.

  • Say it's like Maya... only without all the features.

  • Say it's like Maya... only without all the features.

    The people you have to explain CGI to won't know what Maya is. This is Aunt Maude and Uncle Jeeter territory, like the poster whose brother's response was functionally HAW HAW I CAN SCULPT ANYTHING I NEED OUT OF A TREE STUMP WITH MY CHAINSAW, LOOKIT ALL THESE BEARS I SELL ON THE ROADSIDE

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,085
    Hellboy said:

    Friend: What do you do?

    Me: 3D content

    Friend: For what?

    Me: DAZ Studio

    Friend: What is that?

    Me: Digital Barbies

    Friend: WTF Why?

    Me: Fun and profit

    Friend: OMG People buy that? What they do with that?

    Me: Images, maybe animation

    Friend: For what?

    Annoyed Me: For... whatever people need images or animations for. Like when people do digital painting with Photoshop for whatever reason. But in 3D with DAZ Studio. Let`s get ice cream.

    Friend: ... OK

     

    That`s real, always the same routine, I have been there many times and every answer, no matter what combination, leads to the same questions. It never fails. That`s the shortest way and combination to deal with it.

    You cheated... You used the classic ice cream switch... Cheaper than the "lets get beer" switch and more believable than the really old classic "Look out! A bear!"... (Unless you live in Alaska in which case there is a 50% chance you are telling the truth)...

    That doesn't really solve the problem because most people who get distracted by the ice cream or bear mauling will remember it later... Usually late at night or in intensive care while recovering... You really aught to stop avoiding explaining by distracting them with ice cream because eventually they will get all out of shape and won't be able to run from the Bears and someone will get fully eaten.

    But if this works for you and you don't mind people wondering about you late at night, then I suppose it's not so bad.

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 2,347

    I gave up trying to explain DAZ Studio or my computer art hobby to friends or family. I've never known anyone in person who shares this same interests. My ex-wife always said it was foolish to spend money on this stuff. I've been divorced for over a decade, and don't bother telling anyone about my art hobby. Heck, most people don't even understand when I talk about doing my YouTube videos. (I devoted most of my energy to doing YouTube videos a few years ago.) Now I don't do much of either hobby!

  • TSasha SmithTSasha Smith Posts: 27,373

    I have not tried to explain why I need money to get Elijah some new clothes or Victoria a new pair of shoes as no one would understand me I am afraid.

  • FeralFeyFeralFey Posts: 3,948
    McGyver said:

    If you want a quick explanation I'd go with "it's a cult, just more expensive in the long run"... 

    Heheh. 

    Usually I just say that I'm a 3D digital asset creator. And when they get that weird, "WTF" look in their eyes, I follow up with, "you know, for video games," and that usually does the trick. (Then again, I'm fortunate that I live in an area where video game production is everywhere, and most people understand what it means.) If they're feeling bold, or I'm feeling pushy, I go on to explain some of the finer points about what it is that I do until their eyes glaze over. Then I'll open my cellphone and pull up some of my artwork, which usually brings them back into the conversation. If I'm lucky, sometimes, I'll even get someone who expresses an interest in learning how to use the program. 

    Mostly, though, I just get a blank stare and then they back away slowly.

    But now...I'm just going to go with "cult". Seems MUCH easier.

  • The people you have to explain CGI to won't know what Maya is.

    Well then you tell them Maya is like Blender but easier to use.

  • The people you have to explain CGI to won't know what Maya is.

    Well then you tell them Maya is like Blender but easier to use.

    Most people I know think Blender is a kitchen appliance :)

  • I explained it to my mom as being like digital dolls that you have to dress and pose, but then you also have to set up the whole scene and lighting to go with it.  She kind of gets it.  I haven't really talked to anyone else about my hobby, as they don't really care.  "That's interesting, pass the potatoes."  My husband doesn't really know how the program works, but he gets the basics from watching me agonize over images and giving me his opinion when I ask. 

  • TSasha SmithTSasha Smith Posts: 27,373
    Tottallou said:

    The people you have to explain CGI to won't know what Maya is.

    Well then you tell them Maya is like Blender but easier to use.

    Most people I know think Blender is a kitchen appliance :)

    so they would think that Daz Studio is a way to make healthier shakes but easier? LOL

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,186
    edited February 2017

     

    Tottallou said:

    The people you have to explain CGI to won't know what Maya is.

    Well then you tell them Maya is like Blender but easier to use.

    Most people I know think Blender is a kitchen appliance :)

    so they would think that Daz Studio is a way to make healthier shakes but easier? LOL

    Daz Studio is where they make TV commercials for laundry powder.

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • Tottallou said:

    The people you have to explain CGI to won't know what Maya is.

    Well then you tell them Maya is like Blender but easier to use.

    Most people I know think Blender is a kitchen appliance :)

    Okay, I see the problem. Just tell them that Blender is like Carrara but gets more support.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,186
    edited February 2017
    Tottallou said:

    The people you have to explain CGI to won't know what Maya is.

    Well then you tell them Maya is like Blender but easier to use.

    Most people I know think Blender is a kitchen appliance :)

    Okay, I see the problem. Just tell them that Blender is like Carrara but gets more support.

    But, but, ... Carrara is a German sports car. indecision

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • Tottallou said:

    The people you have to explain CGI to won't know what Maya is.

    Well then you tell them Maya is like Blender but easier to use.

    Most people I know think Blender is a kitchen appliance :)

    Okay, I see the problem. Just tell them that Blender is like Carrara but gets more support.

    But, but, ... Carrara is a German sports car. indecision

    Well just tell them Carrara is like Modo, but cheaper.

  • TSasha SmithTSasha Smith Posts: 27,373
    Tottallou said:

    The people you have to explain CGI to won't know what Maya is.

    Well then you tell them Maya is like Blender but easier to use.

    Most people I know think Blender is a kitchen appliance :)

    Okay, I see the problem. Just tell them that Blender is like Carrara but gets more support.

    But, but, ... Carrara is a German sports car. indecision

    Well just tell them Carrara is like Modo, but cheaper.

    then they will wonder what a modo.  Maybe it is short for komodo dragon?

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,085

    Isn't Carrara a type of white-grey Italian marble? And per pound Komodo dragons are more expensive... I'll stick with Blender... it makes great smoothies.

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