Beware of fire loving vampires!

We've got sparkling vampire in books ... and we get fire loving vampires in DAZ ... Did you ever wonder how come that vampires, otherwise notoriously known for fearing fire (because it can destroy them), always find themselves in crypts fully illuminated with  dozens of brightly burning candles? One day I might do a sociological study about this strange vampires ...

Nothing against the sets themselves, they are beautiful, and I do accept that they must be illuminated somehow (or we wouldn't see how beautiful they are). But these vampires really are a strange species.

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    sparkle vampires? smiley

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,972
    MistyMist said:

    sparkle vampires? smiley

    Twilight (the books and movies) He sparkles.   supposedly.

  • bytescapesbytescapes Posts: 1,916

    In chapter 2 of "Dracula", the count welcomes Jonathan Harker in a room where there is a large, blazing fire. After their meal, they even sit down beside it to smoke a cigar.

    Admittedly, this is only one example, but it does seem that fire didn't bother the great Count too much. And while fire can destroy vampires, it can also destroy humans, and we have no fears about toasting marshmallows or warming our hands on a cold night.

    Garlic, holy water and crucifixes, as specific threats, may be different. If DAZ showed their vampires sitting down to a nice Italian meal, that might be a different matter.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    i wouldnt want to be undead if it meant unlife without coffee.  or eggnog smiley

  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,417

    Hey, MistyMist, that little dragon is a cute avatar!

     

  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,647

    It's supposedly "running water" like a stream or a river that can impede a vampire to cross, at least in some legends.  But fire?  As Bytescapes noted, that instills no more dread that it would a human.  Some tales from Europe state that silver repulses them, supposedly because it represents the 30 pieces paid to Judas to betray Jesus.  Another deterent is casting a certain variety of seed in the presence of a vampire.  The idea is that they will be compelled to try counting all the seeds as though suffering from an extreme obsessive compulsive disorder, even to the point they might get caught by the rising sun.

    Funny thing, before Stoker's concept of a suave aristocrat, European legends usually depicted vampires as shambling, rotting ghouls, single minded in their thrist as to have no real pesonality.  Sounds rather like modern cinema's concept of "zombies", the main distinction being their respective dietary cravings, vampires thirsting for blood, zombies starving for brains or flesh in general.

    Sincerely,

    Bill

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited October 2016

    There isn't actually anything in the original legends about them finding sunlight dangerous. I think it's Ukrainian or Russian vampires who were reputed to even begin their hunting patterns from the middle of the day!

    From what I can make out, the stuff about daylight was purely a Hollywood invention.

    As for depictions of vampires, they come in many forms, but theories about silver and Jesus would be wrong, because legends about vampires come from long before then. Chinese vampires are probably among the most vicious, since they were apparently reanimated flying skeletons capable of literally tearing humans to shreds. I'd loved to see some fanged skeletons in the store, for that reason!

    And, no, Bram Stoker did not base his Count on the historical Dracula. :) He found a little bit of information about him and made Vlad Tepes (of impaling fame) a part of his character's ancestoral geneology, but he originally named him something completely different and didn't do much research on him.

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  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,363
    edited October 2016
    I did some research on this. Many cultures had some type of vampire-like being, and the qualities of those beings differed between each culture. So no one representation of them is wrong. The vampires we are most familiar with have their roots in Christian Europe which is why crosses and holy water are weapons against them. The legends change regionally across Europe as well.

    I recall one legend that a vampire was a corpse that had not been properly buried with last rites.

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,710

  • From what I can make out, the stuff about daylight was purely a Hollywood invention.

    Murnau's Nosteratu, I believe, which was a German film. The recent upsurge in silver-susceptibility also seems to stem from films, but I'm not clear whether it was Hollywood or Hammer/Hammeresque UK films.

  • Asian Vamps are interesting different with their hopping around so many different types around the world same as ghosts and other monsters so many different variations around the world and what they fear with crosses it don't always work and to work the person using it has to belive in it have faith can still upset a vamp normally but not as much as one with faith same with other religious symbols. Most creatures have fear of fire cause it can destroy most if shoved at them but generally ok around it except for Frankenstein he really did fear it oh I call him that and not Frankenstein's monster because the Doctor Frankenstein created him from various body parts and gave him life so that kinda makes him his father and the monster his son. 

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