How to get the 10% Labor Day Discount?
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I put all the items in the shopping cart - including the new release - and the items that are 60% should now be 70% off - but the extra 10% doesn't show up in the cart? I bought stuff yesterday, and the same thing happened. I didn't get the 10% extra. What am I doing wrong?
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Keep in mind that the extra 10% off is only 10% off the DISCOUNTED price, not the full price!
It's working for me, if I add new releases and an item from my wishlist - as Ati says it's 10% off the discounted price, so if you are already at 60% off it will be 64% off.
Make sure you buy 3 or more items from the sale at the same time in order to get the discount.
I thought it had to be three new releases
It says GET AN EXTRA 10% OFF - nowhere does it say get 10% off the discounted price.
The 10% just requires 3 items from anywhere on the offer page: Debut, Still New, Mega Fastgrab or PA backcatalog items.
It doesn't have to specifically say it, that's what the extra 10% means by definition. What you mean is called percent point, and that's not what you get.
The conditions which apply are spelled out at the bottom of the page. The ad says specifically "Get an EXTRA 10% OFF items..." Off ITEMS, not off the reduced price. So if something is 60% off, it becomes 70% off.
What 10% off an ITEM do you want to get, 1.000.000 polygons? "off the item" would imply the price, and that's a regular "additional reduction", as it has always been in this shop. (Explained here better than I could: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/66770/20-extra-not-showing-up
I find that if DAZ does not mean the discount to stack, they say it explicitly. For example, featured artist stores during the PA sale are 40% off, or 60% off if you buy a new item. They do NOT say "take an additional 20% off, that would stack and be 20% of 60% or 52% off. Same with the Mega Flash sale items. "Take an additional 10%" off around here means another 10% of the price in the cart after all the other discounts. That's the way it is around here, feel free to argue with DAZ about it.
I think the wording is fine. 'Extra' could be said to, in some circumstances, bear with it the connotation of happening 'after' or consecutively, rather than concurrently. The 10% off comes off the discounted price.
But regardless of how inexact you think the wording is, the practice is what it is. Would be nice to be getting 70% off instead of 64% off, of course, but trying to argue an entitlement to that is a losing battle.
There's no "around here" - it's the way discounts should stack anywhere (if they do). It's also why the media often get in a muddle when reporting changes to a percentage, so you aren't alone in finding it confusing. Instead of two discounts think of a discount and a charge, such as a sales tax - would you expect the sales tax to be calculated from the base price or the discounted price?
Richard, try setting up a used car dealership in the UK and combine that language with that maths. You would have a visit from the Advertising Standards Authority fairly promptly, once they'd learned from disgruntled customers that advertised discounts were not what they claimed to be. And that's only if you didn't find yourself in the wrong East End gangster movie...
Salesman: 'Ello mate. All cars are 20% off this weekend. But since you seem such a nice, upstanding gent, I can offer you extra 10% off this lovely item.
Bricktop: Pull your tongue out of my arse. Only dogs do that. You're not a dog are you? So, this one at 10 grand, you're gonna let me 'ave that at 7 grand, are ya?
Salesman: No, that would be £7200, mate.
Bricktop: Are you taking the piss?
Salesman: Nah. It's not an extra 10% off the car, it's 10% off the 20% knock down price.
Bricktop: Punish 'im for me, Errol.
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Discount Sample #2
Let's try another. Shelley Shopper is a coupon wizard. She goes to Crazy Larry's and gets great deals by combining sale prices and coupons. Here's a painting she wants to buy. The original price is $224. It's on sale for 34% off. Shelley has a coupon good for an additional 16% off the sale price. What will the painting cost her?
Can we just add the two discounts? 34 + 16 is 50, so is it just 50% off? That'd be $112.
No, that won't work. The coupon is for 16% off the sale price. So, we have to complete two steps. First, let's find 34% off the original price. 34% off means the sale price is 100 - 34, or 66%, of the original price. If we use our second method, we know x = .66 * 224. That's $147.84.
Now let's find out what 16% off that is. 100 - 16 = 84. So y = .84 * 147.84. So, Shelley Shopper pays $124.19.
Notice the diminishing effect of the discounts. If we just took 50% off from the start, the painting would cost $112. But since we did 34% off, then 16% off the adjusted price, the 16% ended up giving us a smaller discount. Still, Shelley's happy. She still got a great deal on a painting!
http://study.com/academy/lesson/taxes-discounts-calculations-examples.html
Multiple Discounts
Multiple discounts involve more than one trade discount.
Formula 2:
N = L (1-d1) (1-d2) (1-d3) ... depending on the number of trade discounts
*A single rate of multiple discounts is simply computed by multiplying 1- [(1-d1) (1-d2) (1-d3) ...]
Example 2: What is the list price of an item that is subject to a series of discounts of 15%, 10%, 5%, if the net price is $500? What is the equivalent single rate of discount?
Solution 2:
Given: Net price (N), Rates of discount (d1, d2, d3)
Find: List price (L)
N = L (1-d1) (1-d2) (1-d3)
$500 = L (1-15%) (1-10%) (1-5%)
$500 = L (0.85) (0.9) (0.95)
$500 = L (0.72675); L = $687.99
Therefore, the list price is $687.99.
http://library.centennialcollege.ca/learningcentre/review/math/discounts
EDIT: Theses are what I found in English language. Amazing things turned up, too.
I thought exactly the same thing (Advertising Standards Authority) when Tween Ryan 7 came out and Daz gave out ??% (in my case 20%) off the character or the pro bundle (hence my thread about the discount at the time).
The language is the key to this issue, not the maths. The maths lessons you quote apply to the situations in the lessons, not what DAZ is advertising.
If DAZ says an "extra 10% off the basket price after previous reductions", fine. Even an ambiguously general "extra 10% off" would work for me. But they're specifically saying an extra 10% off the items. That's not the same thing at all. All you folks throwing the numbers just aren't reading the words.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/extra
"Added to an existing or usual amount or number"
Well, in that case, I guess the only thing you can sensibly do is to write to customer support, show them the dictionarty and the sale text, tell them that you'll sic the athorities or the lawyers on them unless they honour their advertisement.
This complaint has been going on for a while. Their language is incredibly misleading and nonsensical, but they are consistent.
Unless they say otherwise, they mean a sequential reduction (multiply all reductions), not an absolute (subtract new reduction).
Apart from the technical issue of not being in Utah or the US (thus having no authoritahs to sic), I'm really not that bothered. I know what the ads mean in spite of the wording; I know how the maths works to figure out what I'll pay. The only time this prompts any interest (chiefly amusement value) is when people are merrily saying that there's no problem and customers are just wrong. Well, they're not wrong. That's why this keeps coming up.
Yep, I've been here for over five months and I'm just now starting to figure out how Daz's sales and percentages work. I used to work in sales for years, and let me tell you, that is NOT the norm as far as sales and percentages goes. If you have a sale and you state that an item is 50% off and say "an additional 10% off this weekend only" you better believe that 60% is the NEW percentage off the original price not some 10% off the sale price after the 50% off as been calculated.
I've been here for years and I've learned that you have to actually dissect and thouroughly nitpick through each and every sale advertisement here. Nothing is a simple sale anymore, its always a puzzle game.
I understand the discount, but I'm not sure if Labor Day Weekend sale includes Monday as well.
Anyone know for sure? I will have more time to look into it on Monday.
It should include Monday.
This is an excellent post.
To add a real-life example to this, I've attached a photo of a recent purchase of mine with stacking 40% discounts. The sign on the rack says 40% off men's shirts, and I had a "Take an additional 40% off" coupon for the store. The final price is 47*(1-0.4)*(1-0.4) = 16.92.