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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,123
    Toyen said:

    I think what ruins it is the lack of mimic wrinkles. Our figures all have botox faces while the technology of some sort of dial in normal maps to create mimic wrinkles when the character makes an expression has been in real time gaming for a while now.

     

     

    I am working on that problem, well trying to lol.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,085

    Are we still doing Vs? I got the impression the Victoria series was no longer the standard "must have" figure... Now it's the Gens... That sounded nasty, but I'm sure y'all know what I mean... It's very confusing...  If there were a Victoria 8, then she would have to be a Genesis 4 figure right?... It's very confusing mostly because I basically don't really care, but you have so many "7" figures of which there was no previous "6", "5" or "4"... Or if there were I never heard of.  

    So far I've just assumed if it's a "5"- it's Genesis, if it's "6"- it's Genesis 2... And "7" would be Genesis 3... I suppose that's not so complicated on paper... Or just thinking about it... 

    I'm actually surprised that Genesis 4 is not out yet... Or maybe not... I haven't really purchased any of the "7" series figures... Usually the moment I decide to buy the newest figures, they become yesterday's news.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,848
    Zev0 said:

    MCS Male & Female is based off Genesis 2, not Genesis 3. The current offering is more of a prototype introducing the concept. The Genesis 3 version is not yet available. Also vendors & 3rd party cannot create and sell content for the current MCS models (Genesis 2). They will be able to do so on the new revision, hense market growth, because the design of Genesis 3 tailors better for 3rd party support outside of Studio.

    Seriously? That is depressing IMO. While it is good for DAZ's business to branch out I really hope they keep it seperate from this site and marketplace. I spend enough time around wannabe game developers on other sites and forums and the maturity and ethics levels are quite different than in this community on a whole in my experience.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175

    I am not yet ready to throw lots and lots of my money at Daz for yet another generation of figures unless they're absolutely groundbreaking (meaning they better do my laundry and make me breakfast in bed). ;)

    Laurie

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,942
    FSMCDesigns said:
    Zev0 said:

    MCS Male & Female is based off Genesis 2, not Genesis 3. The current offering is more of a prototype introducing the concept. The Genesis 3 version is not yet available. Also vendors & 3rd party cannot create and sell content for the current MCS models (Genesis 2). They will be able to do so on the new revision, hense market growth, because the design of Genesis 3 tailors better for 3rd party support outside of Studio.

    Seriously? That is depressing IMO. While it is good for DAZ's business to branch out I really hope they keep it seperate from this site and marketplace. I spend enough time around wannabe game developers on other sites and forums and the maturity and ethics levels are quite different than in this community on a whole in my experience.

    From all Indications morph3D will be a separate market from the one here.
  • HaslorHaslor Posts: 408

     

    AllenArt said:

    I am not yet ready to throw lots and lots of my money at Daz for yet another generation of figures unless they're absolutely groundbreaking (meaning they better do my laundry and make me breakfast in bed). ;)

    Laurie

    I'm right there with you, (but no toated bread Products)

    There is a lot more that can be done with the current generation. The problem is Technology is a moving target.

     

    FSMCDesigns said:
    Zev0 said:

    MCS Male & Female is based off Genesis 2, not Genesis 3. The current offering is more of a prototype introducing the concept. The Genesis 3 version is not yet available. Also vendors & 3rd party cannot create and sell content for the current MCS models (Genesis 2). They will be able to do so on the new revision, hense market growth, because the design of Genesis 3 tailors better for 3rd party support outside of Studio.

    Seriously? That is depressing IMO. While it is good for DAZ's business to branch out I really hope they keep it seperate from this site and marketplace. I spend enough time around wannabe game developers on other sites and forums and the maturity and ethics levels are quite different than in this community on a whole in my experience.

    It is not only and Opportunity for Daz 3D but for the PA'a as well. But you are also right, there is a different mind set. 

    It is sort of summed up in this ad, but I like the technical References. Dead or Alive 3 TV Ad 

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,795

    Well Morph 3D doesn't make sense for DAZ Studio users with a DAZ Studio Game Development license for a long time hobbyist or professional but like those extra expensive candy bars and pops at the check out counters Morph 3D products make sense in the Unity 3D Asset Store. Utlimately for the typical Unity hobbyist that picks and the engine for a phrase and then moves on to other things in life Morph3D models or a long list of free 3D models available in the Unity Asset Store make more sense really.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,053
    RCDeschene said:
    Haslor said:

    So... When I said they weren't finished with Genesis 3 Figures, I thought about that and pull out a list of all of the Figures from Genesis 2 and Genesis 3; then I made a table ... and one thing lead to another.
    So here is an Unoffical table of the Daz 3D Character's, there fore-family (If this works it will be so cool).

    It also shows the posibilities for Genesis 3 figures.

    Those in Red Never got out of the door or may have been replaced.
    Did Hiro gene pool spawn Kenji 7? Is Gianni 6 and 7 the taking over for The Freak? Or is that Ivan? (He look a little scary to me.)
    Josie came out before Michael, so is the Jayden on the bench some place or is Josie odd girl out, like Aiko 6 was with no Hiro 6?
    Will David the Odd Take the stage or was he replaced by Leo or Scott. (He is the Odd because he only is release every odd generation)
    And where is Victoria's little sister, Stephanie? Surely she wasn't sent to the Gallows?
    Will we see other G2F/M figures Mature into Genesis 3 figures? only the Daz 3D Mastermind Knows?

    Generation 3

    Generation 4

    Genesis 

    Genesis 2

    Genesis 3

     

     

     

    Brodie 6

    Brodie 7?

     

     

     

    Cory 6

    Cory 7

     

     

     

    Darius 6

    Darius 7?

    David 3

     

    David 5

     

    David 7?

     

     

    New Freak? >

    Gianni 6

    Gianni 7

    Hiro 3

    Hiro 4

    Hiro 5

    Hiro 6

    Hiro 7?

     

     

     

    x

    Ivan 7

     

     

     

    New Hiro? >

    Kenji 7

     

     

     

    x

    Kimo 7

     

     

     

    Lee 6

    Lee 7

     

     

     

    x

    Leo 7

    Michael 3

    Michael 4

    Michael 5

    Michael 6

    Michael 7

     

     

     

    Scott 6

    Scott 7?

    Luke (Laura Morph)

     

     

    Teen Jayden 6

    Teen Jayden 7?

    The Freak 3

    The Freak 4

    The Freak 5

    The Freak 6

    The Freak 7?

     

     

     

    x

    The Guy 7

    Pre-teen Luke

     

    Teen 5 Justin

    x

    Tween Ryan 7

    Aiko 3

    Aiko 4

    Aiko 5

    Aiko 6

    Aiko 7

     

     

     

    x

    Arabella 7

     

     

     

    Belle 6

    Belle 7?

     

     

     

    x

    Bethany 7

     

     

     

    Callie 6

    Callie 7?

     

     

     

    x

    Eva 7

     

     

     

    Gia 6

    Gia 7

     

     

     

    Giselle 6

    Giselle 7?

     

     

     

    x

    Izabella 7

     

     

     

    x

    Kalea 7

     

     

     

    x

    Karen 7

     

     

     

    Keiko 6

    Keiko 7?

     

     

     

    Lilith 6

    Lilith 7?

     

     

     

    Mei Lin 6

    Mei Lin 7

     

     

     

    Monique 6

    Monique 7?

     

     

     

    Ninive 6

    Ninive 7?

     

     

     

    Olympia 6

    Olympia 7

     

     

     

    x

    Rune 7

    Stephanie 3

    Stephanie 4

    Stephanie 5

    Stephanie 6

    Stephanie 7?

    Laura

     

     

    Teen Josie 6

    Teen Josie 7

    The Girl 3

    The Girl 4

    The Girl 5

    The Girl 6

    The Girl 7

    Pre-teen Laura

     

    Tean 5 Julie

    x

    Tween Julie 7

    Victoria 3

    Victoria 4

    Victoria 5

    Victoria 6

    Victoria 7

    Matt & Mattie

    The Kids 4

    Basic Child

     

    The Kids 7?

     

    Pretty much. I have my own list that I've been keeping track of, albeit a more simplified version of it:

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_7-dyE9mH-Dd0FBZW5INFRxanM

    But yeah, DAZ and PAs have pretty much confirmed that characters like David, Freak, and Hiro are done-with. Kenji is the spiritual successor to Hiro as characters like Gianni and Ivan are to Freak (with Gia and Rune doing the same for She Freak in that respect). I've actually very recently inquired DAZ_Steve about a Stephanie 7 and a David successor (which hasn't gotten a reply, no surprise). Either way, I'm quite confident that such is very well in the queue as Stephanie has yet to miss a Generation, and with this awesome trend of "Early-Month Female, Later-Month Male Counterpart" that's been going on, it's highly likely that she will indeed come with a David replacement. Though, if you look at the FBMs of some of the newer female stuff, there seems to be a "Sunny 7" coming soon, so a Stephanie 7/"David Successor" 7 might not happen until the end of this year or next.

    ...that' sad as again I prefer David and Steph over Mike and Vicky. I feel that thier proportions and physiques are better. Vicky is the leggy runway fashion model while Steph is more like the girl I'd see walking down the street.  Mike is more the "hunk" while David is more like the "average guy".   Like usual  if they do come out, they will most likely be followed in short order by the next incarnation of  the Genesis figure, so once again will get minimal support. because of the "new shiny".

  • brainmuffinbrainmuffin Posts: 1,276
    tmraider said:

    I heard it was in the development stage... is this true?  If so this would be very - very tough.  V4- V5 didn't even last- V6 maybe a little over a year- V7 now I am hearing of V8 - Gen4?  This is costly, and constantly having to buy clothes, hair, poses, utilities... :(  not good news if it is true.

    Soon

  • Gordon228Gordon228 Posts: 29

    with all this talk people for got what the freak was a big musley guy like http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-2-swole-for-the-minotaur-6

  • HaslorHaslor Posts: 408

     

    Gordon228 said:

    with all this talk people for got what the freak was a big musley guy like http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-2-swole-for-the-minotaur-6

    No, The Freak is on my chart, There are a couple of would be replacements for the Freak. Ivan, Gianni, Minotaur (who I did miss).

    I didn't have She Freak 2 (Gen3) and She Freak 4 (Gen4) on my list and again there are a couple of good replacement Olympia or Rune.

    One which is in the chart but I missed in my narrative, is The Kids. though I think Zev0's Growing Up products are a good replacement.

  • Gordon228Gordon228 Posts: 29

    well the freeak was just a guy with super muscels version of michael.

  • 3dGirls3dGirls Posts: 0

    I wish next Genesis would have at least twice as dense mesh as it is now. Anyway mesh is really similar what I did years ago as my Zbrush basemesh, especially buttocks and front hips area (coincidence maybe ?). https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character-people/child/girl-in-dress

    Anyway I wish I had more polys around mouth and forehead areas. Even the ears got worse respectively to Genesis2. I find it hard to make unique morphs on that mesh, unless I use displacement maps, but then again we can't anmate it, expressions are poor when done only with displacements (and you need a knowledge how to do them correctly). I understand the urge to go low poly route for games, but you should consider that nowadays with engines like ue4, crytek and even unity we can easily push characters up to 80k polys.

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