Xurge 3d still active?

I hesitate to bring up a competitor here, but they don't have a forum of their own for me to ask at.  Are these guys still going?  They had nice consistant "item of the week" sales through April, then started their aniversary sale that lasted a few months, then... nothing.  No new products in months, definately no Items of the Week.

Of the things I've gotten, they look nice but they don't articulate well or have many parameters.  And it's basically two objects per outfit.  So while I like the look of them I'm not willing to pay full price.

So what's going on over there?

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited August 2016

    They are indeed. Not sure if there's anything "going on" - Xurge is strickly Poser only and perhaps he's slowed down because V4 and M4 stuff doesn't sell as well as it used to? Just a guess. I have no inside information at all.

    Laurie

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,884

    I received a newsletter last week, and there were new products (Dune Strider for M4 and texture expansion) in June and July.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I don't buy m4 and v4 stuff which seems to be all that is getting produced there lately. But I think it is still live 

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,847

    I love Xurge 3D outfits, but wish he would jump on the genesis 3 bandwagon. With his skill and ideas, he could make a ton with newer items, I know I would buy them.

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,322

    The site is certainly still active. There have been a couple of new products in the past few months as well. He still seems to be stuck on gen4 as his main figures though, although the Hellfish studio stuff is for the Genesis series, and there are a couple of outfits for Dawn. There are a few for Poser people as well, although I don't know whether there is anything for Pauline.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175

    Yeah, if he did anything for G2 or G3, I'd be snapping that up. Especially his medieval outfits like he did for M4....LOVE those. But he's a Poser guy, so don't hold your breath for anytime soon ;).

    Laurie

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,041

    ...same for me with his contemporary combat and future armour sets.

  • AllenArt said:

    They are indeed. Not sure if there's anything "going on" - Xurge is strickly Poser only and perhaps he's slowed down because V4 and M4 stuff doesn't sell as well as it used to? Just a guess. I have no inside information at all.

    Laurie

    They have had a Daz Studio/Genesis section for a long time now. Granted, there's not a lot of stuff there, but they're good stuff. I think Hellfish Studios (aka DarioFish) had a hand in it, I think.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    Nothing new has been made for genesis 2-3 in sometime. I own all the Hellfish stuff. I suspect most is now being sold here and at Rendo rather than Xurge's site.  

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,912

    i'm very happy he is still supporting M4 and V4. 

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,322

    I'm pretty sure all the Genesis section is Helfish Studio's work. Very good stuff. But not a lot of it. DarioFish has always sold through Rendo. Mostly characters and morphs, but some clothing items as well. I was a little surprised when the stuff popped up at Xurge.

    Most of Xurge's stuff is well enough made to survive autofit reasonably well. But it's not a perfect solution.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,041
    edited August 2016

    ...I like his armour sets because they give full coverage that would actually protect the wearer.  All this bare belly deep cleavage rubbish I see here which leave the easiest parts of the body to hit (which often results in a fatal wound), totally unprotected is ridiculous.

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  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 3,105
    JOdel said:

    I'm pretty sure all the Genesis section is Helfish Studio's work. Very good stuff. But not a lot of it. DarioFish has always sold through Rendo. Mostly characters and morphs, but some clothing items as well. I was a little surprised when the stuff popped up at Xurge.

    Most of Xurge's stuff is well enough made to survive autofit reasonably well. But it's not a perfect solution.

    I thought Hellfish/Dariofish just did the conversions of Xurge's stuff to Genesis/2/3, I don't think any of his original work is there, is it?

    -- Walt Sterdan

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,940
    AllenArt said:

    Yeah, if he did anything for G2 or G3, I'd be snapping that up. Especially his medieval outfits like he did for M4....LOVE those. But he's a Poser guy, so don't hold your breath for anytime soon ;).

    Laurie

    I am a fan of the sci fi genre particularly hi tech armored suits etc.
    I have alot of Xurges Stuff from the M3-M4 era but frankly it all looks a bit Dated and "rubbery" in comparison to the Sci armored suits for the Genesis models..time marches on

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,884
    wsterdan said:
    JOdel said:

    I'm pretty sure all the Genesis section is Helfish Studio's work. Very good stuff. But not a lot of it. DarioFish has always sold through Rendo. Mostly characters and morphs, but some clothing items as well. I was a little surprised when the stuff popped up at Xurge.

    Most of Xurge's stuff is well enough made to survive autofit reasonably well. But it's not a perfect solution.

    I thought Hellfish/Dariofish just did the conversions of Xurge's stuff to Genesis/2/3, I don't think any of his original work is there, is it?

    Items available in the Genesis section are indded conversions of Xurge items.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,177
    kyoto kid said:

    ...I like his armour sets because they give full coverage that would actually protect the wearer.  All this bare belly deep cleavage rubbish I see here which leave the easiest parts of the body to hit (which often results in a fatal wound), totally unprotected is ridiculous.

    DAZ warrior gear is mostly for bedroom warriors.

     

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    AllenArt said:
     
    wolf359 said:

    I have alot of Xurges Stuff from the M3-M4 era but frankly it all looks a bit Dated and "rubbery" in comparison to the Sci armored suits for the Genesis models..time marches on

    I agree. I do think a lot of the content looks like rubbery swimwear. Textures don't look particularly good updated in iray either.

     

  • I just looked at his stuff for the first time. Some fantastic sets. Has anyone tried his stuff in DAZ? Im just wondering about wether or not its compatible. Of course shader failure is no big thing, but id like to know if the suits fit and move correctly before I buy.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited August 2016

    Yes the sets work fine in daz studio

    used here

     

     

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  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,916
    edited August 2016

    The pirate girl in teh front is wearing something from Xurge. Works fine. i do need to fix a couple of textures but other than that they seem to be very well done.  I have quite a few of them actually.

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  • RafmerRafmer Posts: 564

    I used the paladin armor in here:

  • Excellent. Thanks Serene Night, Ice Dragon Art and Rafmer. Really cool stuff!

  • DirewrathDirewrath Posts: 225
    kyoto kid said:

    ...I like his armour sets because they give full coverage that would actually protect the wearer.  All this bare belly deep cleavage rubbish I see here which leave the easiest parts of the body to hit (which often results in a fatal wound), totally unprotected is ridiculous.

    Too true.  And what is with most of the armor being merely pieces instead of a complete set?  Most consist of a chest plate, simple pauldrons, and maybe just maybe a half set of greaves if your are lucky.  Xurge made armor that actually looked like armor, it was layered and bulky not form fitting and light.  He even had articulated armored gauntlets in his armory, I love those things.

     

     

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,847
    edited August 2016
    kyoto kid said:

    ...I like his armour sets because they give full coverage that would actually protect the wearer.  All this bare belly deep cleavage rubbish I see here which leave the easiest parts of the body to hit (which often results in a fatal wound), totally unprotected is ridiculous.

    He's got plenty that are skimpy also (which I like!). I would LOVE to have Fantasy Amazon for Dawn redone specifiacally for G3F and IRAY.

    Barbarian for Victoria 4.2 works fairly well on G3F and in Iray

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  • Panzer EmeraldPanzer Emerald Posts: 727
    edited August 2016

    lmao, I'm sorry man, but skimpwear garbage isn't one of Xurge's strong suits. It looks too generic compared and like every other impractical "armor" out there. I like that he's made practical, full coverage stuff. That's what sets him apart from everyone IMO.

    I just wish some of the Genesis/G2 conversions would go on sale there at some point, though.

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  • DarwinsMishapDarwinsMishap Posts: 4,087

    I used an old armor set from M4 with G3M here.  Updated the armor materials to PBR shaders from Mec3D.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,041

    ...as to the dull "rubbery" instead of shiny appearance,  for the types of scenes I do (inspired by the Shadowrun RPG), the last thing any of my characters need want is nice shiny metallic armour that stands out like the proverbial sore thumb when sneaking down a back alley or infiltrating an industrial complex.  You don''t want hard shell plates that restrict your movement or make noise when you need to be stealthy.

    Don't like the look? One can always apply different materials if they so wish as there are a lot of different Iray shaders available.  Modern armour though tends to be more about function than form.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited August 2016

    I don't really think Xurge's armor is rubbery because of function. It seems to be a texture issue, because a number of pa's don't seem to really do textures all that well. Many of the textures look flat and unconvincing and the hex mesh looks big and fake. It isn't always easy to recolor either I'm afraid. There aren't always enough mat zones and details are painted on. 

    There are some pa's who do great texture sets. Xurge's were good, but I find them a bit dated looking now. In light of the trend towards realism.

    Just my opinion of course. Everyone likes different stuff. There are a couple sets I bought at Xurge's site  that after I bought them I have never been able to use like the heavy armor, because it just doens't look like armor. The textures look pretty bad to me. 

    I also wish for some reason, he'd take a closer issue at the neck areas. For some reason a lot of his armor looks bad in that region.

    The other issue is the armor behaves like rubber. It has a doughy genesis 1 shaping issue. Which makes some of the larger bigger body armor in particular look pretty bad. 

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  • DirewrathDirewrath Posts: 225
    edited August 2016

    I used an old armor set from M4 with G3M here.  Updated the armor materials to PBR shaders from Mec3D.

    Nice render, the armor looks really good with those shaders. I've never used Xurge's materials always found my own, you can really create unique armor sets doing it that way.

    And as for the armor appearing doughy, it is very difficult to model armor to a figure that will not stretch and bend where it is not meant to.  A Cuirass does not stretch when the torso turns or bends, but many said armor pieces on the market do because they are made to fit the figure and unfortunately move with the figure as well. Same with Pauldrons, knee cops, etc.  

    And,speaking of reality, when you are wearing that much bulky big armor you aren't going to be doing the many dynamic fight poses that are out there either.  Armor, believe it or not, can restrict how much you can move your body about.  

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  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533

    I don't really think Xurge's armor is rubbery because of function. It seems to be a texture issue, because a number of pa's don't seem to really do textures all that well. Many of the textures look flat and unconvincing and the hex mesh looks big and fake. It isn't always easy to recolor either I'm afraid. There aren't always enough mat zones and details are painted on. 

    There are some pa's who do great texture sets. Xurge's were good, but I find them a bit dated looking now. In light of the trend towards realism.

    Just my opinion of course. Everyone likes different stuff. There are a couple sets I bought at Xurge's site  that after I bought them I have never been able to use like the heavy armor, because it just doens't look like armor. The textures look pretty bad to me. 

    I also wish for some reason, he'd take a closer issue at the neck areas. For some reason a lot of his armor looks bad in that region.

    The other issue is the armor behaves like rubber. It has a doughy genesis 1 shaping issue. Which makes some of the larger bigger body armor in particular look pretty bad. 

    Xurges texture mats are designed for Poser so need some fiddlinmg about to get them to look good in DS 3dl or Iray.

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