Tween Julie 7

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  • Julie a qt. Her base mats are great. The bridge of her nose is correct for a young face (which is usually an annoying area of uncanniness that needs dialling/shopping out of youth morphed characters).

    She has realistically delicate eyebrows that she's clearly tried to sculpt herself, inexpertly.

    Don't dare tell her, but she's ever so slightly podgy, which is another neat little character detail (what twelve year old hits the gym?)

    Her expression dials gurn with a combination of energetic bluster and shy inexperience. Josie's dials are often hilariously accurate for her stand-offish teen age-range; Julie's are easily on par, similarly well observed for younger girls.

    Julie is the best new G3 character-in-herself since George, I recon, and that's up against some insanely steep competition around these parts, that's for sure. Both project charisma at the camera out of the box that other models need faffing about with to achieve.

    Kid characters are like animal characters, they make backgrounds spring to life, adding another layer of realism to a naturalistic scene. Julie's so well crafted she could easily be a foreground protagonist.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,795

    Julie a qt. Her base mats are great. The bridge of her nose is correct for a young face (which is usually an annoying area of uncanniness that needs dialling/shopping out of youth morphed characters).

    She has realistically delicate eyebrows that she's clearly tried to sculpt herself, inexpertly.

    Don't dare tell her, but she's ever so slightly podgy, which is another neat little character detail (what twelve year old hits the gym?)

    Her expression dials gurn with a combination of energetic bluster and shy inexperience. Josie's dials are often hilariously accurate for her stand-offish teen age-range; Julie's are easily on par, similarly well observed for younger girls.

    Julie is the best new G3 character-in-herself since George, I recon, and that's up against some insanely steep competition around these parts, that's for sure. Both project charisma at the camera out of the box that other models need faffing about with to achieve.

    Kid characters are like animal characters, they make backgrounds spring to life, adding another layer of realism to a naturalistic scene. Julie's so well crafted she could easily be a foreground protagonist.

    Very nice adjustments and pose you made to Julie 7

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,606

    surprise I can't stop staring at her nose... 

    I can't help it... There's just something "odd" about her (especially her face), but I can't quite put my finger on it.

     

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    Don't dare tell her, but she's ever so slightly podgy, which is another neat little character detail (what twelve year old hits the gym?)

    Can we please not body shame? 

  • This such an odd character. Her lips are abnormally huge, and she looks very stylized. She is cute, I suppose, but I would never guess any of the characters in the pro set are "tweens." They could all have fit right in with Josie's line, rather than being a separate figure. And I am baffled by how womanly Camdyn's chest is in the pic posted ablove, how old is she supposed to be? These characters would make good faries and elves, but only Camdyn could pass as a believable tween imo. Plus I've never seen a child, tween, nor teen wear clothes like what's in these sets. Again, only Camdyn has a sensibly young teen outfit...but its not part of the set!

    Why are jeans so rare on Daz? Jeans come in so many styles there are entire fashion lines dedicated to them. But just a scant few Daz products. Jeans are by far the #1 thing people wear around me, kids and adults alike.

    What is it with Daz's fascination with pouty duck face lips??? Even the younger characters can't avoid it! We are passed the point of overkill now. Seriously, its time to revolt against chronic duck face. It is becoming the great epidemic of our time.

    1) You know, when you put it that way, I instantly get the mental image of that one scene from the Sabrina the Teenage Witch show, with the old guy in the high school going "How do you do, kids?" (Hopefully you know the meme I'm talking about, ahaha) To be honest, that's what I think of when I see adults try to make clothes they think kids wear. Most of these outfits feel like they'd be better suited for Josie, tbh.

    2) Eh, I've been using JeanZ for Genesis. It ain't 100% perfect and I'm sure the Genesis 3 version has more options, but it's still a versatile item.

    3) Can we throw in the button noses while we're at it? What gets me is that Josie 7 didn't have either, if I recall, yet somehow Julia does. And it really kinda creeps me out, lmao. If anything, Julie should look a little more gangly and in the early puberty stages. Well, maybe someone like Sayianess will release a skin or something for her that will reflect how most girls really look at that age, hehe. 

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137

    It says she has her own UV. Does that mean G3 textures won't work on her? Or that you can't use her texture on G3?

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,322
    edited August 2016

    All G3F textures will work on her. Her own base texture won't work on G3F, unless you have her base. Which basically says that if you have her, and her base, you can use her texture on G3F, too. 

    Where it all breaks down is when someone without the Julie 7 base buys a character in the store whose texture was built on the Julie 7 UVs. That texture won't properly apply to G3F. 

    But that doesn't happen that often any more. Vendors have learned that it's safest to build add-on textures from the G3F UVs. It's still somethingnthat you need to check, though.

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137

    Thanks JOdel, I'm still learning the idiosyncrasies of DS LOL...  

    I think she's cute, like Thorne/Handspan morphs but she's definitely not realistic, more like a fairy character. And the eyebrows are too red so she  looks odd as a brunette. The eyebrows for an original figure should probably be more neutral, especially since G3 adult textures all have the stylized eyebrows. Nothing I can't change in Photoshop, but still... Unless it was just the promos that made them look red... And, like Divamakeup mentioned, the eyes look strange... I will probably get her since I often do fairy characters (although I have enough to last a lifetime and all the Handspan morphs!) but I'm hoping I can morph her to look more realistic too...

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,759
    edited August 2016

    It says she has her own UV. Does that mean G3 textures won't work on her? Or that you can't use her texture on G3?

    All these characters are based off Genesis 3 so most anything will work

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  • timnaastimnaas Posts: 121
    edited August 2016

    OK, not sure if I'm missing something or it didn't install right. But I was looking thought the morphs on the promo page....

    • Tween Julie 7 Character Preset (.DUF)
    • Tween Julie 7 Full Body Shape
    • Tween Julie 7 Head Shape
    • Tween Julie 7 Fairy Ears
    • Tween Julie 7 Breasts

    I can find all the morphs but the breast morphs. Were those a last minute drop and not removed from the promo page?

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  • Move the TJ7 Body dial; everything shapes from that.


    Camdyn and Brita render quite nicely.

    Curiously, Camdyn looks the most grown up of all three.

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,925

    Did I miss it- I don't think anyone answered the question about the weird eyes. And they are weird.

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996

    Move the TJ7 Body dial; everything shapes from that.


    Camdyn and Brita render quite nicely.

    Curiously, Camdyn looks the most grown up of all three.

    Nice render! They look quite good there.

    Interesting size range between characters in the same bundle.

     

    - No answer on the eyes thing yet, no.

  • OK, not sure if I'm missing something or it didn't install right. But I was looking thought the morphs on the promo page....

    • Tween Julie 7 Character Preset (.DUF)
    • Tween Julie 7 Full Body Shape
    • Tween Julie 7 Head Shape
    • Tween Julie 7 Fairy Ears
    • Tween Julie 7 Breasts

    I can find all the morphs but the breast morphs. Were those a last minute drop and not removed from the promo page?

    Did you check under the Chest section? Sometimes that's where extra morphs are put by DAZ.

  • Her eyes seem fairly normal under soft blue/white hdri. This is Iray.

    There appear to be reflection options for 3DL, maybe it's that?

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Any renders of them adult size? Considering the Camdyn for the texture.

    And do the clothes work withoug Julie?

  • Camdyn is a morph of Julie, and uses the Base Female UV. So, yeah, the skin is transferable.

    The clothing is just clothing as far as I can tell? Seems to conform as usual.

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    TY

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,925

    Her eyes seem fairly normal under soft blue/white hdri. This is Iray.

    There appear to be reflection options for 3DL, maybe it's that?

    thanks for showing that. They do seem a lot different than the other render, showing greenish tint.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 12,000
    edited August 2016

     

    Don't dare tell her, but she's ever so slightly podgy, which is another neat little character detail (what twelve year old hits the gym?)

    OH FFS, she's not "podgy" - she's perfectly average sized. Podgy = somewhat fat. She's not even close to fat. That's the kind of silly statement that leads young girls to develop eating disorders.

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  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,322
    edited August 2016

    Puppy fat. She'll lose it over her next (or continuing) growth spurt.

    All of the outfits in the bundle seem to have at least one promo whith the clothes on other G3 characters. Sometimes more than one. I should think they'll work on any other G3F base, or at least the man ones like Victoria, probably others as well.

    And yeah, the green tinge, or reflection, or whatever it is that doesn't cover the whole sclera, *is* weird.

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  • wizwiz Posts: 1,100
    Novica said:

    To me, her eyebrows look like chunks are missing out of them.  

     I have P3D Maria for Genesis 3 Female from Renderosity (product 113249) which is the same exact character,  so I guess vendors can sell the same one here and there as long as there's  more added to it.  I saw that promo and was like, "Wait a minute. I think I have her already...?"  So that's one less available to choose from in that group. And I don't intend to spend money on poses or morphs, have enough sets. So probably sitting out on all this.

    I owe you one. Already have that from Renderosity, but who knows how long it would have taken to notice, with the difference in where Rendo and DAZ stuff end up.

    I guess now if there's an update, I won't get it. Unless P3D is also going to upload updates to Rendo.

    Hey DAZ, how about two warning icons in the corners of the thumbs, so we have separate warnings for:

    • This item is encrypted only
    • This item was previously offered at a different site, check your library
  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,322

    We really do need an Encrypted only icon.

    But the store shift issue is part of a long tradition. Things have been jumping from store to store for as long as I've been around (well, longer, really), generally without warning. Usually when a vendor simply shuffles their itens, but also when an item is a buyout and suddenly shows up as a DAZ Original.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,925
    wiz said:
    Novica said:

     

     I have P3D Maria for Genesis 3 Female from Renderosity (product 113249) which is the same exact character,  so I guess vendors can sell the same one here and there as long as there's  more added to it.  I saw that promo and was like, "Wait a minute. I think I have her already...?"  So that's one less available to choose from in that group. And I don't intend to spend money on poses or morphs, have enough sets. So probably sitting out on all this.

    I owe you one. Already have that from Renderosity, but who knows how long it would have taken to notice, with the difference in where Rendo and DAZ stuff end up.

     

    Well, Jakiblue was kind enough to point out to me that it is the same product, nothing added to it. I was looking just at the products I had and didn't visit the product page, so I didn't see that it also had the Josie 7 on it. And dang it, releasing a Josie product when there's a new Julie, I was getting confused. Jakiblue helped me spot what was for who.  So if you owe me, I owe Jakiblue, so we're all three good yes   I had just rendered her in the past couple weeks or month, not really sure how long ago, so she stuck in my head. It's the same promo art so that helped. The product has been pulled from Rendo and only sold here now.

  • nelsonsmithnelsonsmith Posts: 1,337

    Seems like people are being a bit overly critcal of Tween Julie.  She's not a bad figure, perhaps mis-marketed depending on your definition of what a tween is or should look like.  But when one looks at how Tweens are marketed in the real world by brands like American Apparel, or Calvin Klein, even with the make-up and pouty lips she's downright Disney.  The clothing selection isn't that bad either.

    Let's be honest when we talk about what sells in Daz, a Tween character is probably slightly above Male figures and mature characters when it comes to what the average Daz user buys so it's understandable why the creator tried to stay in the center lane and appeal to the broadest demographic.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited August 2016

    I actually really don't care for her.

    Then again, I don't render tweens/ or teens that often and I seldom like the stylistic characters.

     

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  • BurstAngelBurstAngel Posts: 768

    As a mother of a 10 year old girl, the clothes are pretty desent except for the fact that there are no straight cut or boot cut jeans. the sad fact is that most kids clothes ape the style of their elders so most girl jeans in todays market are unfortunately are "almost" booty shorts or low cut skinny jeans.

    Now that we have a "Tween" can we at least round this out with an actual child morph and a infant /toddler figure?

     

  • Yeah, looking at the clothes I thought the Missy outfit would fit the requirement of the person who wanted something their Gran would wear. But the outfit is well done, and the shape is pretty much timeless. It all comes down to textures and accesories. I think the base Julie figure looks like a typical 12 year old. I've definately seen 10-12 year olds wearing the shorts and tank top as shown with thte main figure walking around town this summer. The traditional daily wear clothes of probably 90% of the planet, no matter what age, is jeans/t-shirt/sneakers. My 15 year old son and I are wearing identical concert t-shirts and black jeans. He has sneakers, and I have sandals. I've seen the girls at his school in winter wear short skirts and sweaters with shearling boots in the winter.

    One of the biggesrt challenges Daz faces is living up to ideal of what kids actually wear, versus what adults think they wear or should wear, and what also has appeal to be marketed for adult figures as well.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 12,000

    It's not hard to find tween fashion, it would have been nice to see something more accurate to what tweens wear. 

            

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,632
    edited August 2016

    Has anyone bought her that can check on something? In the promo images there is an odd green in her eyes with a strange cut off spot where the green ends. Is this an issue with the HDRI or is there an odd line in her eyes?

    I'm not sure what it is, but in the renders it looks dreadful. Can anyone who has her confirm if her eyes look like that in your renders?

    I had forgotten I saw this yesterday and have sent in an inquiry.

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