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A normal GPU will always shut down the system or display if get overheated to protect itself and the same with CPU , or it was old model or something ? I killed couple of HD or better say they give up on me as they was faulty to begin with and 4 of them was from Seagate , Samsung and WD never and operate well no matter , but the GPU can create higher temp overall when bad air flow especially from the VRAM that tend to get very hot while rendering and melt rubber or plastic . I kill years ago my Laptop with Octane but the GPU melted everything before it shut down my system and never reboot again, my fault as I pushed too much .
not surprised .. very poor made
It is definiately the CPU/GPU temp that warped and cracked the gorilla glass and exploded the litium ion battery in my old ASUS EP121 tablet so I replaced with 5 year old HP notebook that is much better although iRay render in DAZ Studio keep it humming for hours - no temp shutdowns or meltdowns.
the lithium ion battery can be so dangerous when overcharged or overheated , you lucky nothing happened to you , it can burn at 1000F degrees and you never know when it decide to ignite
Well, even with the side of the case off both CPUs are still enclosed. The only thing that you can really see when the side is off is the graphics card and since there wasn't much space for it AND because the AC basically blows almost right into the case, all the components are definitely cooler with the side OFF when I'm pushing the graphics card ;) Normally I'd leave the side on.. I watch the temperatures of everything with Speedfan to make sure they're all within acceptable limits.
Laurie
Most important is that it working for you and the temp are stable what counts most here , everyone have different case , setup and components , one need more air flow than other , I was surprised that my i75960X can't get down as much while idle as my other 4 core CPU no matter what I tried , the faster new stuff getting much hotter by defoult but then stay very stable while on full load compared to my 4 cores
My blower style 670 never ever tops 63C on air. I have a custom fan curve in PrecisionX set up for it. My case is very old, with a 2002 stamp on it. It does happen to have a side fan, but that fan isn't blowing directly on the gpu, its slightly above it. It modified my case a bit, it had space for four 80mm fans up front, but the holes were small (like I said, old case.) So I got some metal cutters and cut the metal out that was blocking the air. I did the same thing to the holes in the back where the 2 80mm rear fans were. It has 1 80mm side fan. That's how you know you got an old case, all 80mm fans, lol. But they add up. I added one additional 92mm fan under the gpu where the other pci slots are. The CPU has a Evo212 which is 120mm, and pushes air right to the 2 80mm rear fans. So there are 3 fans plus the gpu blower ejecting heat, while the 4 fans up front and the 1 side fan take air in.
It works very well, and its not as loud as you think it is. But it can potentially get loud, only if I crank up the fans to max it gets comically loud. But they really never have too, even at full 99% use in games or rendering. All the fans pretty much run low.
What I have to do to improve my experience with daz? I'm soooooo laggy when I use five characters and a heavy environment
My pc: i7 4790 16ram 2x980ti 1x970
Do I need more vram? What cause the lag? When I use just one character and a light environment the lag disappear
Try to use only the 2x 980ti ( without CPU ) selected and the 970 for monitor only and see if anything improve , with your system you should have fast rendering and iray viewport with just 2x980ti selected for rendering .
If you viewport is drag , open the DRAW style tab , change the threshold msec to around 300-360 , change tye pixel resolution to 1/2 if still choppy viewport, make sure your default camera Head Lamp is OFF , it can drag down iray very much , filters like Bloom filters can drag it too .
gtx 970 has only 4GB vram so if you use more than 4GB in your scene it will switch to CPU and not use GPU at all and that may be your issue . 980ti has 6GB vram so you can have bigger scene than when selecting 970 in combination with 980ti
To add, using one of the 980tis may cause your computer to lag because it's trying to process the frame buffer at the same time it's rendering. I had similar lag issues with my 4790k and (mostly) fixed it by plugging my monitor into the IGP VGA port.
Just a Note : When you see Frame buffer usage while rendering with GPU in iray or games it is nothing else than the percentage of the GPU memory which is being used. If your frame buffer usage is very close to 100% your GPU starts to have memory bottlenecks. No matter your monitor is plug into card or not frame buffer will be calculated .
Thank you very much MEC!
You welcome, let me know if anything improved, also forgot to ask you how much System Ram you have , 32GB RAM with your system and cards would be recommended
Many thanks MEC! That improves my rendering speed within 18%! But after two or four renders I lose like 35-40%
I think it's because my temps (78-85 celsius) I have to save money for watercool them...
If it get over 80C you will start to lose the clock speed .. did you installed Precision X 16 from EVGA and set the fans on auto cooling ? the fans will start before and keep the GPU cool for a longer period of time
with the right air flow you can keep them under 67C as well it is possible .. or just save the $134 for the water cooling blocks with radiators I saw yesterday the hybrid kit for 980ti for $67 on Amazon , the installation will not interfere with the warranty
Have you set up a custom fan profile for your cards? Out of the box my 980 TI would hit 83 C fairly quickly and start cutting back the memory and core clock speeds. I used the tool that came with the card to build a custom profile and now I max out at 68 to 70 C at 97% load, the clocks stay at the top end, and the fan runs at about 75% of maximum speed. With the system sitting 3 feet from me I don't hear the fan.
I have my cards water cooled so they never get higher than 37C on full load and 23C idle .
When I first purchased my air cooled Titan X last year I used Precision X 16 , set the fans manually on Auto , edit the fan profile higher , the trick with rendering is to start the fans higher to prevent over heating in please of let it go run high after the GPU is already hot .. I guess as in your case , a lot of small freelance studios rendering with gtx cards doing it actually and it works better .
Recently download afterburner for msi and Precision X for evga. Now I don't exceed 74 celsius! Thanks guys!
The EVGA hybrid kit is compatible with MSI cards? Should I change my MSI cards for EVGA? I just have one EVGA. I was reading on internet about which is better and I didn't get a answer. So... MSI or EVGA?
Holy crap, I never even knew these existed! You are a goddess, thanks! (Wishlisted)
Me, I detest summer with a white-hot passion, I try to keep my Living space at least 50-60 degrees Fahrenheit!
Yes - I start at 50% when the card is idle and ramp up from there. With air cooling you've got to stay ahead of the heat generation.
I heard stories of exploding batteries but I didn't know of the details.
Honestly, that tablet (a brand new ASUS EP121 at $1200) if you wish to avoid it) should never of made it to manufacturing. After that experience I will never buy another tablet that relies on mechanical fans to keep cool.
Never just add more fans.
You need either positive or negative airflow; there are benefits to both systems. The inside of you case should have unrestricted airflow so the fans need to be positioned correctly to allow air to flow over components, and cables (as one example) need to be out of the way so they don't restrict the flow.
More fan noise doesn't mean better airflow; better airflow is what makes for a cooler system. Five fans is a lot, and might be too many, but if positioned correctly, and with good pathways inside your case can work well.
In addition, it isn't about having an odd number of fans; it's about knowing their capacity of air flow, and caluculating what you need. This is measured in feet/meters/centimeters etc per minute.
we talking about internal fans inside the card here , rendering will heat the GPU and memory higher than while playing games due to consistent GPU usage
and you talking about case pressure what is correct btw .. but when get about internal GPU fan things works a little bit different here and as namffuak quote : start at 50% when the card is idle and ramp up from there. With air cooling you've got to stay ahead of the heat generation.
The EVGA Hybrid kit for 980ti is made only to work with the Nvidia reference card as it is designed to use the the fan from reference card to cool the memory + water cooling for GPU , you need to search for 980ti Hybrid kit for the MSI card , I think it was Corsair hybrid kit that works with MSI
I don't know what model card you have , just MSI or EVGA said not much , please write down the exact model as there are many versions of the 980ti
I stick with EVGA as I do always and never had any issues with and I love the prompt support from EVGA so it is my personal choice, the only thing I use from MSI is motherboards
They are very good to suck out the heat generated from the vmemory preventing heat up of the RAM and CPU , especially the small tornados and if your graphic cards have backplates even better , I use it before I switched to water cooling , you need 1 slot space between your cards , one of them use power from the pci slot other via molex what is better
Different, sure, but not completely; the card is inside the PC (unless it has closed loop cooling, and it's heat is dissipated outside) then it will certainly be affected by the case cooling. Even if it is a self-contained cooling unit, it will still be affected by the case, although to a lower amount by the case; to treat it in isolation is to miss part of the factors determining how efficiently its cooling systems will work. Even if a self-contained system still maintains the card's optimum temperature, by being in a poorly cooled environment means they will work harder than they should; this can potentially shorten the cooling system's life if not the GPU itself. The warmer the air used to cool the card's components by its fans, the less effective that cooling will be. It is the temperature differentials that allow heat to transfer, so the greater they are the better. So a cooler PC always helps.
... And yes I know my talk of case pressure is correct. System buildings often go for a possitive case pressure to restrict dust accumilation (as many never bother cleaning the inside); it can be worthwhile for those building their own to do the same; however, those building their own are perhaps more likely to keep their eye out for dust buildup and may consider the benefits of negative pressure to be more worthwhile; negative pressure is considered better for those with performance systems such as gaming; rendering would also fall under that catagory.
The major issue is not the GPU but the VRAM , it can get really hot especially the chips on the outside where there is no directional cooling , no fans not back plates to take the heat away rising the internal temp sensor and reducing the GPU speed , for that reason I was talking about the side fan that does not cool the GPU but the vmemory , the front fans are never powerful to cool the top vram it feeds only the opening on front card for the GPU intake and there is actually nothing that cool off the vram on top of the cards, the fans on back rear or top just remove the heat not cooling it off so just front fans are not powerful , I am talking from my own experiences where I reduced the 80C of the cards to 67C just by adding the side fan and back plates to cool off the vram , by addicting vram back plates the GPU sensor will get 3C lower at last already without anything else , I had 220mm intake front fan, 220mm intake side fan and 220mm excusing top fan with 140mm back rear fan and everything was just perfect and 25C while idle and 67C for video cards on full load .
Everyone have different PC cases and different sizes of fans they can use it is not rocket science but everyone need individual solution for the best cooling performance , some cases are just worthless and not made to cool off powerful cards however side fan is the best solution to lower the card temp and I spent $12 on my side fan LOL that cooled it better than double fans on some of the cards they make .
This is my tip that working so we not need to go into rocket science behind atmosphere inside PC case to make it sound more difficult for a simple task like that