Richard Haseltine said:

PerttiA said:

Richard Haseltine said:

For genesis 8 it is most of the adult pro bundles - e.g. the Victoria 9 Pro Bundle and the Michael 9 pro Bundle. The 8.1 models are included in the themed bundles for adult characters (e.g. Victoria 8.1 University Bundle or Michael 8.1 Campus Life Bundle) - the 8.1 sets would work on the 8 figures, but would need persuasion (at least cancelling AutoFit, but you might need to rebuild the AutoHide groups) - of course your 8 characters would work on 8.1

The anatomical elements included in Genesis 8.1 bundles are for G8 and one gets both in one bundle. 

Ah, OK - I was thinking they had been updated to fit to 8.1 as their preferred base. I thought they were the male and female versions for the base figure, not for both bases (four models in all across the male and female versions).

You've got the right of it. Buying a Victoria 8.1 bundle gets you both male and female genitalia for G8.1F. 

PerttiA said:

Richard Haseltine said:

For genesis 8 it is most of the adult pro bundles - e.g. the Victoria 9 Pro Bundle and the Michael 9 pro Bundle. The 8.1 models are included in the themed bundles for adult characters (e.g. Victoria 8.1 University Bundle or Michael 8.1 Campus Life Bundle) - the 8.1 sets would work on the 8 figures, but would need persuasion (at least cancelling AutoFit, but you might need to rebuild the AutoHide groups) - of course your 8 characters would work on 8.1

The anatomical elements included in Genesis 8.1 bundles are for G8 and one gets both in one bundle. 

Ah, OK - I was thinking they had been updated to fit to 8.1 as their preferred base. I thought they were the male and female versions for the base figure, not for both bases (four models in all across the male and female versions).

I did a "conversion" of @Thorne's Ksenia from Victoria 4 to Aiko 3.

Richard Haseltine said:

For genesis 8 it is most of the adult pro bundles - e.g. the Victoria 9 Pro Bundle and the Michael 9 pro Bundle. The 8.1 models are included in the themed bundles for adult characters (e.g. Victoria 8.1 University Bundle or Michael 8.1 Campus Life Bundle) - the 8.1 sets would work on the 8 figures, but would need persuasion (at least cancelling AutoFit, but you might need to rebuild the AutoHide groups) - of course your 8 characters would work on 8.1

The anatomical elements included in Genesis 8.1 bundles are for G8 and one gets both in one bundle. 

For genesis 8 it is most of the adult pro bundles - e.g. the Victoria 9 Pro Bundle and the Michael 9 pro Bundle. The 8.1 models are included in the themed bundles for adult characters (e.g. Victoria 8.1 University Bundle or Michael 8.1 Campus Life Bundle) - the 8.1 sets would work on the 8 figures, but would need persuasion (at least cancelling AutoFit, but you might need to rebuild the AutoHide groups) - of course your 8 characters would work on 8.1

Victoria 8 Pro Bundle

Michael 8 Pro Bundle

I believe it is the "Genesis 8 Female Anatomical Elements" & "Genesis 8 Male Anatomical Elements" in the "What's included" that you are looking for.

I don't know the answers to the rest of your questions tho.

RiverSoftArt said:

alienarea said:

I have converted Charlotte 8 and Victoria 8 to Genesis 9.

When I put the G8 character next to the G9 converted character, the nipples are to low for both. I can adjust that using https://www.daz3d.com/breast-utilities-for-genesis-9 and putting the vertical movement to maximum.

However, since it is the same discrepancy for both characters, in my understanding either the conversion could be improved or the G9 unimesh has a chest issue?

I could upload comparison pictures to my deviantart account if needed.

From Sickleyield: G9 does not have nipple geometry at all. It's just flat square polygons where G8 has those circular areas as part of its base. So when we copy from G8 to G9, only unusually large nipple morphs are likely to show up. This is why nips on G9 can only be HD. It takes subdivision for there to be enough polygons to sculpt a nipple shape.

I would add if you compare G9 with a scaled G8F side by side (so they are the same height), you see that G9 has a lower nipple area vs G8.  This is just how G9 is.

Thank you. That lower nipple area  is my issue with G9. In my opinion it's a compromise rooted in the unisex base. Logged a ticket with Daz3d but never got an answer. Back to Genesis 8 Female.

Tag: Totte#04 

 

#2452 Gia 8 (#54299)
#5486 Adventure Animation Kit for Genesis 9, 8.1, and 8 Male (#91542)
#3421 Wetlands Low Res Plants for Vol 2 Flowering Plants (#73153)
#358 IG Iray Essentials - Victoria 6 & Michael 6 (#21926)
LB1: #3626 Pyromantix - Volumetric Flames (#80775)
LB2: #4252 Marty Mane Hair for Genesis 8 Male and Genesis 9 (#87485)

Also used:
UltraSceneCreator
Pacific NW Ecology
Skies of Economy
Urban Adventure Outfit + Riley Hair
Michael 6 + Diesel Outfit + Gothic Male MoHawk hair + I Am Poses + Sci-Fi Smuggler (gloves)
Nathan 9 + Smart style outfit 
Val Summer Grill
Starship Stingray Bomb
Luftwaffe Ground Support Equipment (Bomb)
B99 Diner (T-Bones Steaks)
Backstab Alley (Hook Rope)
End of Pier Props

Shaders and Tools used:
Ultra Scenery Toolbox Vol 1
Ultra Scenery Toolbox Vol 2
Alienator Pro
Code 66 Toolbox Vol 4 - C66TB Frame2Pose
RSSY 3Delight to Iray
Architectural Iray Shaders

Ancient Roman Amphoras

When Jenny and her friends went magnet fishing, they found some strange ancient roman amphoras. Mike handled the BBQ, the T-bones, they went well done...

alienarea said:

I have converted Charlotte 8 and Victoria 8 to Genesis 9.

When I put the G8 character next to the G9 converted character, the nipples are to low for both. I can adjust that using https://www.daz3d.com/breast-utilities-for-genesis-9 and putting the vertical movement to maximum.

However, since it is the same discrepancy for both characters, in my understanding either the conversion could be improved or the G9 unimesh has a chest issue?

I could upload comparison pictures to my deviantart account if needed.

From Sickleyield: G9 does not have nipple geometry at all. It's just flat square polygons where G8 has those circular areas as part of its base. So when we copy from G8 to G9, only unusually large nipple morphs are likely to show up. This is why nips on G9 can only be HD. It takes subdivision for there to be enough polygons to sculpt a nipple shape.

I would add if you compare G9 with a scaled G8F side by side (so they are the same height), you see that G9 has a lower nipple area vs G8.  This is just how G9 is.

"Conversion" of @Thorne's Ksenia from Victoria 4 to Aiko 3.

I think that this process might work on your skirt problem. In my search for answers to my spike problem I discovered and used Mada's videos to help me use the weight-map tool. https://www.youtube.com/@MadadeLeeuw/videos The below comment came from my art studio thread here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/194526/lj-studios-art-work-and-tips and deals with spikes you can get from using the tri-axe version of a garment while bending the figure. There is another entry talking futher about fitting clothing but not using auto-fit. I did this work not using a clone. I also left V2 alone and did not convert her to weight map. The garment that she is wearing is Tri-axe. There were reasons for not weight mapping Vicky. DAZ has a hard time correctly interpertating Poser morph files and Tri-axe can remove details in the mesh that you want to keep. So using cross dresser was my solution but I have learned some things working on Posette and her morphs that I would like to try with your tut Richard and I think maybe I can get that detail back. After Christmas, though. 

Richard, if you wish you can take this snipette and add it to your tut. I do not mind. Make changes rearrange what ever is needed to make it better. You can also look through my thread for other things that might be worth something and add to the tutorial if you want. Use and abuse my friend. So here you go.

How to Fit Clothing when Spikes Show Up After Posing

This was a recent find for me. The Millineum Catwoman. After some discussion with Redfern I found out that she was called Mia. So as normal for my entries in this thread I have listed the stuff I used. I do however have a tip. Mia's bodysuit was orginally made for Furrette. I decided that I wanted a better fit to Victoria's body so I converted the clothing using Crossdresser by EvilInnocense. I wasn't quite happy with the fit so I added a smoother but that put to much distortion in the suit. So I decided to try to convert it to a weight mapped figure. When I did that every pose I used with the suit gave me spikes. They were on the arms and legs. I have seen this happen before and I finally did some research and found out 1 of the reasons for this occuring. Bottom line DAZ and Poser use different ways in dealing with how mesh is positioned at the joints. So there is a lot of leaway for DAZ to confuse a poor mesh and make spikes happen. Here is what I did to fix this issue when it happens to be a weight map issue.

Instructions:
1. Convert garment to Tri-Axe weight mapping.
2. Bend the garment and note where the spikes are created. You should be able to tell which bend direction causes the problem for what bone. So for the bodysuit it was the Z bend in the right and left shoulder bones.
3. On the Tool Settings Tab, select the Node Weight Map Brush Tool
4. In the Scene tab select the(one of) bone(s) where the spike or spikes occurred. In my case I had multiple places that needed attention so this process become iterative from this point on.
5. In the viewport right click and select the Brush Mode->Paint Brush. You will see two circles a green inside a red appear in the Viewport when you move the mouse over the garment.
6. Select the Rotation map for the previously identified bend. In my example it is the Z Rotation map that was not performing like it should, i.e. spiky. Upon selection you should see on the garment the area which the map identifies as having influence. Represented by red, blue and/or yellow fields of color. It is now, that you should be able to see some areas where the garment colors show through.
7. With the left button held down move the mouse over these areas to turn them red.
8. Rotate the bone within the Parameter tab or the pose wheel in the upper left corner of the view port. If you still see deformation then pass the mouse over the area again.
9. You have fixed your problem. If you want to keep this version of the garment and not have to make these fixes each time you use it. I would highly recommend saving it out as a figure.

Title: Join the Space Force Now
Rendered in iRay. Postwork in Gimp to add the text and sig.
An imaginary recruitment poster for the US Space Force. Featuring one of their own Lt. Mia Tabby. Lt. Mia as she is called, is a combination of Victoria 2 body and Millineum Cat. A creature created by Little_Dragon with the help of Redfern and others. The poster behind her is from the JPL site. Lt. Mia is based loosly on Redfern's Mzzkiti, both being service girls and all. I want to thank Redfern for all of his information about this character, where she came from, who was involved. I love history.

So here she is:

Freebies:
Character:Lt. Mia:Actor              * Millennium Catwoman v1.2 by Little_Dragon.
Character:Lt. Mia:Tail                   Bushy Tail 2 by Little_Dragon.
Character:Lt. Mia:Texture          * MilCatwoman Red Tabby Texture by Little_Dragon.
Clothing: Jewelry: Earrings       * Ankh Earrings for Poser by Chris Cox.
Clothing:Bodysuit and Vest         Furrette SPF Uniform by Little_Dragon.
Clothing:Jewery:Ring               * Shardz Elven Ring for V3 by Shardz.
Environment:Background           Visions of the Future - Venus by Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
Hair                                             Little_Dragon's Ziggy Hair for Furrette 2.0 by Little_Dragon.
Pose:Lt. Mia                               Inspired by Louis Royo by Schlabber.
Prop:Lt. Mia:Weapon               * Angry Hornet Raygun by Archeopterix.
Shader: Lt. Mia:Claws             * Iray car related shader presets 'megapack' by Tom2099.
Shader: Suit: Jewelry: Gold    * jewelry_iray_shaders by AllenArt LaurieA.
Shaders:Clothing                    * Iray Leather Shaders by Tom2099.
Paid fors:
Character Base:Lt. Mia:Head       * Millennium Cat by DAZ 3D.
Character:Lt. Mia:Claws              # Cat Character (w/ poseable nails) by DAZ 3D.
Character:Lt. Mia:Texture           # Classic Cats Combo by LaurieS Lisa's Botanicals.
Clothing:Conversion                   * CrossDresser V2 by EvilInnocense.
No Counts:
Character Base:Lt. Mia:Body      # Victoria 2.0 by DAZ 3D.
Clothing:Bib                                # RDNA Roma by Traveler.
Environment:Lighting                 # FWSA Soft Light Probes by Fred Winkler Art Sabby.

* - Requires free registration
# - No longer legally available

I have converted Charlotte 8 and Victoria 8 to Genesis 9.

When I put the G8 character next to the G9 converted character, the nipples are to low for both. I can adjust that using https://www.daz3d.com/breast-utilities-for-genesis-9 and putting the vertical movement to maximum.

However, since it is the same discrepancy for both characters, in my understanding either the conversion could be improved or the G9 unimesh has a chest issue?

I could upload comparison pictures to my deviantart account if needed.

WendyLuvsCatz said:

oh they are still selling me stuff regardless

I just picked up a G9 outfit for 3.47USD in a lighning deal

https://www.daz3d.com/the-kings-guard-outfit-for-genesis-9

Fun, isn't it? 

I've been trying to keep up with the Jones', but I was asked to hold off for a while, so I did. Turned out that my punches lasted long enough to score myself some presents anyway! What a Win!

Even better, it was all cool stuff that I already wanted!!!

Another awesome (and anonymous) follower of my website gifted me a nice Gift Card! Thanks!!!

A portion of that with one of my brand new Daz + Coupons got me (finally) UltraScatterPro! Looking around a bit and... Oh My! Presents Day! Oh My!!!

So just for fun, I went into my Daz 3d Account Product Library and, it's so cool that there are so many new Full Pages of new gear that I've gathered in a very short time with very little expense. I mean... times are really tough right now, but this magical place... this Daz 3d - All these years of such satisfaction from this particular customer.

It just blows my mind! I can't think of any other company that I've ever dealt with for Anything that has kept me This glued... good job, Daz 3d!

Daz + and the names of it previously... I recall the very first time I joined - that very first day. I was on dial-up. Rosie smiled as I floated around in glee - busting my hump chiseling stone all day in the hot sun while she kept my downloads rolling. It took days!!!

It's funny how I still see so much of that legacy content as precious treasure. Still buying some and fitting it to the modern figures*, and run to my Shader Presets Iray library - or simply work with the materials that are there - and I have something that I really like and will use probably forever!

*Special Thanks to All of you Amazing Clone Creators!!! SickleYield, Valzheimer, MMX... you know who you are!!! This is Freaking Magic!!!

The new products that are filling the shelves in such an even flow of daily bliss looks so cool in the promos that I bite, buy and download via DIM. Loading it into the scene and exploring the provided options... Man... this stuff is Cool! 

Sorry for being so babbly, but I just have to put in how I feel about Daz 3d and how wonderful they've made everything for me. There was such a long period of time when the only thing that could drag me to a computer was to hop into a paint app and make dungeon tiles or rip my CDs to HDD for my MP3 player. 

Finding Poser, Then Victoria 2, which led me to Daz 3d... 

All these years of satisfaction and excellent customer service. Then they grant us one of the most amazing gifts ever - the Pro version of Daz Studio with their brand new Out of This World Genesis figure - who can still hold up beautifully to this day - why? Because right from the very start, Daz 3d = Excellence. Top Level quality control! Buying content made for their very first generation, Zygote Dragon, Millennium Woman and all of that era... they're Excellent! Stonemason was onboard with that really amazing Sci-Fi stuff that Still Holds Up! 

Kudos to all of you. You new artists are doing an Amazing job. Keep that going. 

One more thing:

MikeD, while I'm typing this your Icon Creator Pro is doing Wonderful Magic to my custom library! I really love this thing!

NorthOf45 said:

My Advent Calendar has rolled over in th elast 20 minutes. Dec 1 is now available with a new selection. Believe me yet?

acb#02 : I just heard my teacher in fourth grade scratching the blackboard with her nails, well done!
Daventaki: #01 : Surprise sleep travel can be dangerous, is that his family now?
Daventaki: #02 : Heh, as long as it can fly she can escape!
acb#03 : Uhuh! Looks like the croc behind there decided it's lunchtime!

Pull #4

#2452 Gia 8 (#54299)
#5486 Adventure Animation Kit for Genesis 9, 8.1, and 8 Male (#91542)
#3421 Wetlands Low Res Plants for Vol 2 Flowering Plants (#73153)
#358 IG Iray Essentials - Victoria 6 & Michael 6 (#21926)
LB1: #3626 Pyromantix - Volumetric Flames (#80775)
LB2: #4252 Marty Mane Hair for Genesis 8 Male and Genesis 9 (#87485)

An animation, glad I did write the Toolbox 4 with C66TB Frame2Pose (I think it was Gopherus who inspired me to write it in the last round)

Once again I don't have sufficient in-depth Hollywood film knowledge to instantly recognise the character, but I can say that you have sculpted a stunning male face who looks just so real.

You're vaguely tempting me to try G9 again. But.. I have to say G9 offers few advantages for the type of images I usually render, and even something as old as Victoria 3 is good enough to show up my deficiences in posing and rendering a scene. However, I'm very slightly more torn than I was.

Regards,

Richard

Those two are still cute. They are not in their original textures may look better in them. I was going for a grey world look, asTim Burton did in The Nightmare before Christmas. Arduino did some awesome work with the early figures Posette, Victoria, Mike and Dork. This image of Ms Olympia is Micheal 2. She is based off of the real Ms. Olympia 2001, Juliette Bergman. His work and freebies are located here: Ms Olympia (archive.org)

Elor said:

SofaCitizen said:

OK, I had to think outside the box for this one since I couldn't really send the girls on vacation to Russia.

I cheated too, because it's not really practical to go to Moscow right now, so, they went to Moscow instead

 

Items and a longer explanation on the gallery: On the road to Moscow…

I initially planed to create a scene in a library, where both of them would spent some time catching up with their studies, but the library I own is full of outdated non working ghost lights and I don't know yet how to replace them. So, now they are on the road and Victoria is napping because she did spent a lot of time catching up (the downside of travelling all over the world…)

I had to go to your gallery to understand where you were going... to Idaho... ahhh... Didn't even know about that city in the USA... Very clever indeed.  Love following the girls around the world.  :) 

stelari said:

I picked up the bundle mostly for the clothes (was looking for a Hijab outfit just the other day, now I have 3) and hairs. Maryam out of the box is definitely not my style, but the face I think will add nicely to mixes.  Default skin is very plain - attached a couple of quick renders of her alternate shapes, and here's one of her default shape with Victoria's skin, and a 60% Maryam/Mira mix with Mira's skin.

[Gallery Link]

Thanks for posting. That mix with Mira does a better job selling her than anything on the store page. 

Elor said:

I cheated too, because it's not really practical to go to Moscow right now, so, they went to Moscow instead

Items and a longer explanation on the gallery: On the road to Moscow…

I initially planed to create a scene in a library, where both of them would spent some time catching up with their studies, but the library I own is full of outdated non working ghost lights and I don't know yet how to replace them. So, now they are on the road and Victoria is napping because she did spent a lot of time catching up (the downside of travelling all over the world…)

I'm glad I wasn't the only one then :) I undertstand your pain with the lighting tho it's much harder to (re)light a complicated indoor scene than I thought. I originally planned to custom-build the entire environment for my image (since most of it is not seen) but couldn't get the light right at all so ended up using a purchased nighclub asset just for the lighting rig. I haven't really worked much with ghost lights so also wouldn't really know how to replace them.

Nice image tho - hopefully Lacey caught up with her sleep before getting behind the wheel!