I've wondered this myself. However, Daz figures have been "giants" even since Victoria 1 ;). The Genesis 3's tho are especially odd when you look at a male and female in a couples pose and the female is just as tall as the male o.O. Looks awkward when Mike 7 is carrying Vicky 7. She must be heavy ;).

Laurie

Lol 2018 release date lmao Yea when pigs fly, Daz is probably more secretive then Apple, At least Apple tells us some stuff, But Daz never says anything about what they are working on, they are not transparent at all about where they are in development of the next version :(

2018 release date definitely YES!

2017 should belong to Genesis 3 in my opinion : ) Still many unexplored areas/themes when it comes to the models : )

Oh and one more thing I'd like to see, at least some discount on Victoria 8/ Michael 8 for those of us who are loyal customers and own a good number of Genesis 3 models.

Also the release gap between Genesis 3 Female and Genesis 3 Male was HUGE in my opinion so I'd like to see both Genesis 4 models released at the same time.

2018 release date definitely YES!

2017 should belong to Genesis 3 in my opinion : ) Still many unexplored areas/themes when it comes to the models : )

Oh and one more thing I'd like to see, at least some discount on Victoria 8/ Michael 8 for those of us who are loyal customers and own a good number of Genesis 3 models.

Also the release gap between Genesis 3 Female and Genesis 3 Male was HUGE in my opinion so I'd like to see both Genesis 4 models released at the same time.

Its an old Victoria 4 outfit SHOOT 09: Punched

I am going to try this out tomorrow, as I've wasted the whole day and into this night trying to get motion from Mixamo into Daz without errors.
(edited comment as I realised in another post you explained how you got the Victoria model in Mixamo, by signing up quite some time ago. Sadly I am a new user so I am trying by uploading the grey Vic6 base model (although not sure if it's Vic 6 or just the G2F base mesh... is it the same thing?)

For characters of varying ethnicity, I agree there are huge problems with the current library. Why do we have Eve, Karen, Arabella, Gia, Isabella, etc. and no Middle Eastern or (base, Daz Original) Black models for example? Kimo and Kalea are great examples of  what I wish we would see more often. I'm not going to name names for what I think are poor representations of ethnicity, but there are a huge amount of morphs that look exactly like Victoria with darker/tinted skin, rather than having detailed, believable features.

Well, we have Mei Lin, Kalea, and now Monique 7; all of which do not look like variations of 'Victoria 7 with pale skin/a tan and an ethnic name slapped on it and hope people won't notice', nor do they have the doe eyes and bloated fish lips that have dominated a large chunk of Genesis 3 Female's existence.

In fairness, the main characters (i.e. Bethany, Eva, Gia, Olympia, Rune) themselves don't have this problem (and I don't count the Tweens, Aiko, Girl, Sunny, and Izabella, since they're intentionally stylized), mind you, but the PA made characters all seem to suffer from an extreme case of sameface after a while, to a point where unless it's in the item's name, I don't know who did who anymore. 

The sad thing is, female-based characters who don't adhere to "The Look" don't exactly sell: I remember RawArt mentioning that while they like to make their female characters look "worn" (i.e. not like a Victoria's Secret model), that approach doesn't work with customers. (There's something about this hobby that brings out my inner feminist, lmao) I get that very specific "look" is probably where the money is -because the forums are not exactly a good gauge of what sells- and yay capitalism, but when do you cross the line between offering a new take on "The G3F Look" to the table and/or just 'Malibu Stacy with a New Hat'?

(Come to think of it, my experience with this whole hobby is practically the embodiment of that one Simpsons episode, haha)

At this point, if you want any meaningful non-idealized female faces, you're probably better off buying morph kits and tweaking to your satisfaction instead of continually buying PA characters that, to you, look the same. And if you want to inject some non-Anglo Saxon in your runtime, go support SickleYield's Faces of Africa/Asia sets for G3F&M. Considering how the Genesis 2 versions sold (according to them), it's a miracle they got made at all for Genesis 3.

Also, thanks to this thread, I've shucked Cris Palomino's 'Metamorphosis' into my wishlist. 

Pull #5

#5182 Signs of Protest (#19454)
#3245 Lone Wolf for Genesis (#13428)
#4105 OOT Styles for Dark Sisterhood for Genesis 2 Female(s) (#19472)
#4466 Queen's Chamber Bundle (#17945)  {
    Adrianna for Victoria 6 (#16891)
    DM's Queen's Chamber (#17719)
    DM's Queen's Chamber Poses (#17720)
    Briar Princess For Genesis 2 Female(s) (#17899)
}

Random numbers generated Dec 6 2016 at 15:24:27 by www.psychicscience.org  
Free educational resources for parapsychology and psychical research.

That was, eh, weird.

So Lucian is officially this generations David to me.  Because I've started dialing him in my lady characters as well

 

Lucian 7 dialed into G3F is just... I never just dial a head morph in 100% and just leave it at that, but

 

 

I'm a little in love RN

That is the sort of face that's in my head when I think of DAZ 3D Victoria but then it never quite is.

Hi there again :D
I'm having too much fun playing with Octane, but again, i need some tips in some topics... :P 
1.- SSS on Octane 
I've seen some tutorials on youtube about SSS on octane stand alone, but i can't find the way to make the same effect on carrara plugin. 
I seen this post on Otoy forums (Atached images), but i can't get that effect on Victoria 4... i hope someone could help me to understand what i am missing.
2.-Eye Shaders
Also, a tip for proper setting for Cornea and Eye Surface. (I make a decent one, but wish to know if there's an ideal setting for it)
3.-Volumetric Clouds
For some reason, my volumetric clouds are always black :(  I think this is related to scene scale too, so, i want to know which setting is better for volumetric clouds at poser/daz/V4 scale scene. 
 

I'm sorry. I mean a add on like this http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-7-hd-add-on (image attached)

FW Brooke HD for Victoria 7       Divinity Outfit  (Gen3F)         Sapphire Hair   

With the reddish eyebrows, I made my own complementary lip color by doing a yellow diffuse and orange transluscent color. I'd like to see fewer multiple red lip colors,  and have at least one orange tinged lip color. At least vendors have a somewhat neutral color so you can do it yourself. 

This was an orange themed light setup for the first three, then more natural lights for the last.

nicstt, I've fumbled threw some of that as a n00b to Daz Studio (or anything CG for that matter).

I did manage to make a short intro of a sorts to what dial dose what with the 3DL OmniUber shader included with Daz Studio, mostly as a bread crumb trail for my self.

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/947916/#Comment_947916

There is a 3delight thread, however they often end up on wild tangents of other programs and render engines. I think a few of them have free shaders (can't remember whom off the top of my head). There a friendly bunch that have a lot more knowledge about 3delight then me, I'm still a n00b.

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/55128/3delight-laboratory-thread-tips-questions-experiments/p1

And if your more venturous with setting up your own surfaces, I know there are lots of maps/images out there for that (Some are even CC0, for example).

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/40627/zdg-the-making-of-paint-and-brushes-simple-displacement-and-texture-maps

I'm about to embark on an experiment of dressing up a gym set with a simple Daz Default surface using AElflaed's Fancy - Shaders maps, a really good commercial 3DL shader set (here at daz3d). Something I need to get motivated and just do it.

In the words of Zathras, "Much to be do-ings not much time". lol.

Thanks for these, but gotta agree; short on time.

Finally got the whole thread read lol.

So I use both render engines as I said above so its not make or break for me to have support for both on any given product.  But I will say this.  I am sure the sales data supports the fact that Iray sells better than 3Delight.  But I also believe that its not really a fair comparison because honestly, if I had found Daz a couple months later and didn't visit the forums, I doubt that I would even have noticed that there was another option availalbe.  The switch over happened rather quickly, when I first came here I started learning 3Delight because that is what was available and everything for sale was for that.  Then Iray came out and all of a sudden, (relatively speaking probably in less than 6 months) all you saw and heard about is Iray.  I doubt that anyone new coming into this hobby even notices that 3Delight is much of an option because Iray is shoved in their face wherever they look.  And why would they look for a second option if its not obvious?  So to say that Iray sells better than 3Delight now is probably true.  But someone, somewhere was working pretty hard to make sure that that is what would happen.

I was scrolling through the website - new items.

I couldn't buy anything 3Delight, so something of a poor comparrison. I can't buy what isn't there.

I want shaders, and some info on how to use them. It's tough to know what to use that I already have, whereas with IRAY there seems to be more info on how to do stuff; maybe because everyone was in the same boat and the info got shared, but with 3Deltight, until recently, there was no threads to read.

What kind of shaders? What kind of info? Do you need to know how to apply them, or something more indepth about what all the parameters do? There are so many existing 3Delight shaders/shader presets out there, that I can't think of anything that hasn't been done already at some point in the past. The good news for you is that these still fully functional and excellent "vintage" items may be less expensive than their newer counterparts. 3Delight shaders/presets is a bit like Victoria and Michael 4. For such a long period of time the people who like to make shaders for Daz Studio, only had 3Delight to work with, so nearly every possible thing has been accomplished.

I do understand that the general forum base can assume that everyone has a similar foundation of common knowledge, and this assumption is incorrect and difficult to overcome. Bluebird3D's quick tip series have definately illustrated the point that knowledge taken for granted by one person, can be a real "A-Ha!" moment for someone else. My general advice would be to start your own thread with the specifics of the information you seek. We (the community) can either answer directly, or track down relevant past discussions.

Thank you. It is a good idea, and when I've time. Going to be some months before I have enough I expect.

She looks lovely!

So Mustakettu85, can you tell us about the products you used, hair, clothing, character textures and morphs. A lovely overture. She looks very very pretty. I think we forget just how good the older models were.

Thank you both!

Well first of all, there are no face morphs, just Vickie 2 =) She's the cutest! I may have dialed in a few percent of some "fitness" type of body morph, I'll look it up next time I'm home. The good thing about generation 2 is that the bases come with a lot of morphs built-in.

The products are enumerated in the dA gallery description (under the "In this render" heading, a bit below the image). Some of them are freebies, and at least hair textures are from Rendo, so I can't just copy&paste the whole list =D

These come from the DAZ store, and you will notice they aren't for V2 but work very well with her:

http://www.daz3d.com/trixie-hair

http://www.daz3d.com/dynamic-circle-skirt

The skin textures also came from the DAZ store but they aren't available anymore unfortunately because of that "vaulting" thing. =(((

Here's Maret for Victoria 7 

and one of Teen Josie 7 

AMI for Victoria 4

Didn't see her in any of the lists and am going through all of my V4 characters and rendering them.  I'm back to trying to render all the characters I have so that I know what they really look like.  Could take months.  Its ridiculous the amount of characters I seem to have collected.

It sounds like a possible bug in loading morphs for legacy rigged figures, not just Victoria 4 - though I am not entirely sure of that. Reports shoulkd be made as a ticket for Techncial Support http://www.daz3d.com/help/help-contact-us

Thank you good catch.

It could also be done with http://www.daz3d.com/lyfw-sherri-hd-for-victoria-6.

I also added http://www.daz3d.com/iray-snow-ice-and-ash for $2.20.

Just got Adrienna for V6 for 2.72 and both FWA freebie for M7 and the LIE makeup freebie from Lyoness. Steal!

Where exactly should I report this? Is Victoria 4 even still supported?

Well, the first one is almost certainly Sorbet swimwear: http://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-gillian-hd-for-victoria-7-and-lf-sorbet-swimwear and the second looks like Woodland Elf  http://www.daz3d.com/woodland-elf-for-genesis-3-female-s hiding the outfit and keeping the trim with something like Bandeau Bikini recolored http://www.daz3d.com/bandeau-bikini-for-genesis-3-female-s

Thank you Fisty for this wonderful gift! Very nicely made and love the options that youy made for it.

Here we have a teenage Tori(Victoria 7) sporting her new outfit!

Tori is a mix blend of Victoria 7, Tween Julie 7 and Growing Up Genesis 3 for a mid teen (16yo or so)