EDIT: I have fixed a problem with the morph and linked the eye position to the head morph, so now you just have to dial in the head morph and the eyes will automatically move into place. If you have downloaded the Yves G9.zip file and installed it, please install instead the fixed morph (Yves G9 fixed.zip) that you will find attached now at the bottom of this post. I apologize for the inconvenience but I hope the improvements are worth it.

As far as I know there are virtually no male characters for G9, so I thought I'd make one quickly. I present you with Yves G9 (Edit: I've replaced the promo images with new ones, because I didn't like the original renders):

Assets used in the images:

Mateo Hair for G8M

dForce H&C Leather Jacket Outfit (T-shirt) for G8M

G9 Eyebrows Fiber Style 01 Thick

Commercial and noncommercial use.

Please let me know about any issues you might have had with this morph. Don't forget to post your renders with Yves in this thread for my (and not only) viewing pleasure! 

I hope you like him.

Enjoy!

AOBB

Zev0 said:

Hi. Figured it out...

Here is the update link - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TYm-VgIOm78aV_NH7HMOas7_q1VsKpR3/view?usp=sharing

Also added a new chest flatten morph which should address all concerns. Updated the shape presets to use the chest flatten morph as well. Will update promo when I have a chance.

Please test this and let me know if all is in order. Just copy files and overwrite the existing ones. If all is in order I will make an official update.

Thanks

Hi there - just a note I think the zip file is missing the Zev0 folder name in presets? Not a problem if you know what you're doing but maybe others will unzip to wrong location?

GUG9 Update.zip\Content\People\Genesis 9\Shapes\Growing Up\...

C:\Users\Public\Documents\My DAZ 3D Library\People\Genesis 9\Shapes\Zev0\Growing Up\...

Are you trying to use it with Genesis or on it's own?  

Richard is right that you have to be careful with licensing but in my experience most game companies don't get upset if you do stuff for personal use only. 

If you have an object file with the character does it contain the rigging? If so you could pose it withing DS and use it that way. I'm not sure why you mention Genesis. Are you trying to make a morph? Because that won't work as the vertices on the model are different.

What game is it from? Is there a reason you wish to use DS for the fan art instead of Blender? 

Eboshijaana said:

benniewoodell said:

How did you convert it to 8.1 if you don't mind me asking? I have no idea how long, and if, the daz to Maya bridge will be updated so I can animate in Maya and bring the keys back into daz to apply the sequence to the character since they said they made it better for animation but did nothing for IK. I also use Facemotion 8 for lip sync and I tried and it does not work at all with G9 (not that I really thought it would). So if there's a way to convert it to G8 or 8.1, I might actually continue getting new characters otherwise im tapping out. 

I simply made a clone of G9 for G8.1M. I used this tutorial:
Then I just used the transfer utility to transport it to G8.1M.
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/505011/transferring-morphs-between-figures-tutorial-released Here is a tutorial for that.

@Eboshijaana thank you so much! Hopefully I'll have some time this evening to give this a try, if not tomorrow! 

Richard Haseltine said:

The toe issue may be that shoes often have their rigging simplified compared to the base, since shoes do not generally respond to individual toe moves, but the conversion risntates the base rigging for the new figure.

I have run into shoes where the designer took extreme liberties to make them work - one pair of shoes for G8F appears to delete the toes and the sole of the foot, and there are a number that apply morphs to the toes, making them smaller and more closely together than can be done without the morph.

Richard Haseltine said:

felis said:

Gator said:

Richard Haseltine said:

GnotMe said:

Where are the Anatomical Elements promised on the Victoria 9 HD page ?

Female Anatomical Elements are listed under Materials.

@Richard Haseltine

I tried loading that, it doesn't appear to do anything.  (Which makes sense, it indicates it's a material, not a morph or geograph object). Some people have stated that you need "Genesis 9 Character Essentials".  Is that true?  Normally the gens come with the bundle.

Yes, the anatomical GeoCraft comes in "Genesis 9 Character Essentials". 

Yes, I meant that there is no promise of the models - it just says there are materials for them, if you have them from the Character Essentials.

Nice misleading answer... 

Well I was hoping the morph packs for body and head would be released by the end of this week (today, Friday), and was fairly disappointed they were not.
I wish I knew what the problem was, but we all know DAZ doesn't exactly offer free-flowing information.  Is it a technical issue where the morphs aren't ready yet?  Or is it just some kind of illogical release plan, which makes customers wait and wait for something that I consider "essential" to a product?
To say this is frustrating, is an understatement.

benniewoodell said:

How did you convert it to 8.1 if you don't mind me asking? I have no idea how long, and if, the daz to Maya bridge will be updated so I can animate in Maya and bring the keys back into daz to apply the sequence to the character since they said they made it better for animation but did nothing for IK. I also use Facemotion 8 for lip sync and I tried and it does not work at all with G9 (not that I really thought it would). So if there's a way to convert it to G8 or 8.1, I might actually continue getting new characters otherwise im tapping out. 

I simply made a clone of G9 for G8.1M. I used this tutorial:
Then I just used the transfer utility to transport it to G8.1M.
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/505011/transferring-morphs-between-figures-tutorial-released Here is a tutorial for that.

Don't forget that the license terms for the game may be an insuperable obstacle.

This isn't really possible - a morph can't be a different mesh, and if it isn't broadly the same shape as the base figure you can't really use the Transfer Utility.

Chatjd said:

Richard mentioned in the "Mid-way through 2022 a new Sales... Thread that the morph packs are due next week some time:

Richard Haseltine said:

Daz is aware of the morph requirement issue. Unfortunately they cannot release the morph packs today, but they wil be out as early as possible next week we are told.

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/7784941/#Comment_7784941

Next week???!! Almost may as well be next year...all the shine's worn off already as it is. Next week I'll be on to something else. Sheesh.... 

Daz should change their motto to "Hurry up and wait...". I had to wait for the figure after buying it. Now we're expected to buy all this **** for G9 and can't even really do anything with it until god knows when. Most of the stuff that HAS come out for G9 so far relies on those missing morphs in some way. Way to go Daz. I remember a day when Daz did most everything right - products were correct on release, the company didn't breathe a word of of a figure or software release until everything was ready to go. Wow, how times have changed.

I'll be back if and when the head and body morphs show up...

PerttiA said:

Eeyore said:

And this not being accessible these morphs like before totally sucks!  These are the features which I buy new character/generations for.  Now we must wait for content creators to develop morphs instead of creating some uniqueness to our own characters by ourselves.  This means using this new character base for me is mostly off the table until fork over increasingly limited funds to buy content at a later date.

We have been told, there will be morph packs for G9 just as there has been for previous generations, but they haven't been released yet. The merchant resource body shapes is not meant for us mortals. 

Thanks for clearing this up.  It's funny that you can find them, at some astronomical price, but have to wait for them to be released.  I thought these were all readily available on day one of the launch because I vaguely recall having them from the start.

What does still suck though is that some of us have spent literally thousands upon thousands of dollars on content and we're still not privileged to get some of these on day one, even if we didn't buy the top bundle or create anything other than a few images to post online.

Have you tried reloading? It looks as if the links from shape to morph adjustment are not aplying, I don't think there are any changes in DS likely to cause this.

After reading these comments and those in similar threads I am even more convinced that investment in this generation is not on the cards for me for quite a while - if ever. I have seen some of the renders posted for G9/V9 and I am not impressed. Sure, the close-ups that Jay showed us in the promo video are very impressive but I don't render close-ups - ever. I have yet to see anything that I couldn't see using G8 (or probably 8.1 but I don't have any 8.1 either). So why would I spend money I can't really afford on morph packs and characters for G9 when I already have plenty of those for G8 which will provide an almost infinite variety of digital humans for the foreseeable future?

I'm hoping that the DAZ developers can finally switch attention to DS5 and let the PAs take the load of providing more content for G9. Maybe they will need to come out with G10 (or whatever comes next) just to be fully compatible with DS5 which might mean a short lifespan for poor Vicky9.

outrider42 said:

Catherine3678ab said:

This way gives V9 her own day of glory so to speak ;-)

I'm fairly sure that the morph bundles, etc. will follow over the next weeks, months, etc. as they usually do.

I for one am not disappointed with the Bundle although a little surprized that the a.e. have to be yet another purchase - but the price isn't bad at all. And for those down the road in time I'm sure they will appreciate that they don't have to shell out for a full Pro bundle just to get a set.

That might be one way to look at it, but I have to disagree. Genesis 8 at least offered some compatible features with G3, you could drop most G3 skins right on 8. Poses would work, and only needed a small adjustment. With 9, however, few things work on G9. You can't drop your old skins on it. Poses do not work at all. So people are truly starting all over again, and we have to remember that we have not had to start over again since 2017.

I had to look, and Genesis 8 launched on October 12, 2017. So it has been exactly 5 years since Genesis 8 launched. And frankly, people got used to Genesis 8 being "the" Daz model. People who had stuck to Victoria 4 for ages finally moved on to Genesis 8. That is what Genesis 8 accomplished. Also keep in mind that Daz was doing some wild bundling in the Genesis 8 early days. Remember how buying a bundle they gifted like 2 or even 3 Pro bundles with it? This really pushed people to take the leap that might not otherwise. I was one of them.

I also don't feel the bundle is really offering anything. One single hair, one single pose pack, 3 very not everyday clothing items (unless you wear a bikini or fetish wear everyday day), expressions, and a make up pack. It is a pretty sparse bundle. When you look at past bundles I see more in the older bundles. Victoria 8 has 2 hairs, 2 pose packs, FIVE outfits covering more variety, expressions, and 2 extra characters. V8 also had makeup included with her base, not sold separately. Granted, I suppose the makeup product with V9 has more stuff, but still, it is sold separately and considered one of of the products included with the bundle.

That just doesn't drive value to me.

So now Genesis 9 is starting over in many ways, and I would bet some good money that a lot of people are going to wait. 

I like that Genesis 9 has 4 male and 4 female skins, that is pretty cool. So there's that. But I am talking about the Victoria 9 bundle itself. So after playing with these I am just sitting here thinking why would I even need Victoria 9 anyway? It is just not compelling to me. Victoria 9 is not ugly, but I am just not into her all that much. Maybe someday I'll get the character by itself.

felis said:

Gator said:

Richard Haseltine said:

GnotMe said:

Where are the Anatomical Elements promised on the Victoria 9 HD page ?

Female Anatomical Elements are listed under Materials.

@Richard Haseltine

I tried loading that, it doesn't appear to do anything.  (Which makes sense, it indicates it's a material, not a morph or geograph object). Some people have stated that you need "Genesis 9 Character Essentials".  Is that true?  Normally the gens come with the bundle.

Yes, the anatomical GeoCraft comes in "Genesis 9 Character Essentials". 

Yes, I meant that there is no promise of the models - it just says there are materials for them, if you have them from the Character Essentials.

Richard mentioned in the "Mid-way through 2022 a new Sales... Thread that the morph packs are due next week some time:

Richard Haseltine said:

Daz is aware of the morph requirement issue. Unfortunately they cannot release the morph packs today, but they wil be out as early as possible next week we are told.

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/7784941/#Comment_7784941

alphawiz1 said:

HLEET_3D said:

WOW ! it's way better, thank you ! Waiting for Genesis 9 :D

All I can say about Genesis 9 so far is I am NOT impressed.    No apparent way to adjust basic body shapes, which makes all the female shapes practically male.  If they were going for non-binary and gender neutral, they succeeded.

There should be Basic Feminine and Basic Masculine morphs. The morph packs are being released early next week.

 

And why are the merchant resources listed at $10,000 ?!?!

because they are essentially for Daz PAs - they needed to be in the store for the PAs to get them 9at a discounted price) but are given a high price to discourage others.

It's been a while since I've been active in the forum. I had some losses in my family which were hard to deal with. It's just been a rough last couple of years. When I have been on the forums, I've mostly just lurked in the background. Sadly, that also meant there wasn't a It's Raining Men contest last year, and there won't be one this year either. I do really hope things get back to normal for me and perhaps, I can resurrect the contest in 2023 if there is still interest in having it. I apologize for just ghosting on that, but I just didn't have the mental capacity to deal with all the issues that always comes up with having the contest. Normally, I don't mind, but I just can't yet.

So Genesis 9 seems to be out. I'm not sure if I'm impressed with it yet or not. I did pick up Victoria 9, not the bundle though. I have to say I'm surprised Victoria 9 only came with one eye color. Even Genesis 9 comes with the the normal base colors like blue, green, brown, etc. Usually Victoria has those same basic options. But no, she only has one eye color. I so hope that isn't a trend for Daz characters in the future.

At any rate, I did have fun playing with the new figures. I'll withhold judgment about the new generation until more characters come out and we have access to all the morphs. At the moment,there isn't really all that much I can until even the basic morph sets come out. I really need to work on taking figures out of Daz Studio and morphing characters on my own. That's not something I've been very successful at doing yet. I mostly rely on morph sets and spin dials. Not something I can do until I have dials to spin!

So here's my first renders of Victoria 9.

Closeup of V9:

I haven't been happy, so far, with my test renders of Genesis 9. I'll keep working with her to see what I can do.

Pendraia said:

The Blurst of Times said:

Messing around with Autofit.

Genesis 2 clothing, Genesis 3 hair.

Feet/boots are still going to be trouble with Autofit, but that's expected.

Clothing does seem to transfer quite well but the shoes/boots definitely do something odd around the toes. I'm not sure why.

The toe issue may be that shoes often have their rigging simplified compared to the base, since shoes do not generally respond to individual toe moves, but the conversion risntates the base rigging for the new figure.

Crescent said:

Yeah, there are a couple of PAs who throw polygons at models instead of optimizing things so their stuff is borderline unusable. And since it's clothing in this case, taking the time to fix their stuff means remaking all the morphs as well.  There's a PA who does props with bazillions of polygons so at some point I'm going to take what I bought (before I learned better) and optimize those items so I can use them.

Don't you have modo? If you take the model into modo, plus the morphed versions, and bake each morphed version to a morph on the base then you can edit the shape and the morphs will (mostly) be preserved.