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Victoria 8, a bridge too far???Victoria 8, a bridge too far???
Meh. That's kind of how I feel about Vicky 8. To echo your point Tsarist, Vicky 4 with the right shaders looks fantastic - I honestly think Daz have hit a point of diminishing returns with these new figures. I get why they release them - that's how they make their money. But I don't see much difference between the generations anymore. And that's not because the new figures are bad - it's quite the opposite - Daz's figures are really really good, and there's simply not much more for them to improve upon. I would get more excited to see some improvements to dynamic hair and cloth. The figures themselves are so ultra-realistic that it looks jarringly odd to see poorly-draped conforming clothing or hair on such a photoreal figure. I'm not picking on anyone here, and some vendors make better clothing sets than others, but that's where I think Daz has an opportunity for improvement.
The good news? Since I never really invested in Vicky 7 / Genesis 3 content, the whole store is now going to go on deep discounts for me! Yay! Victoria is dead - Long Live Victoria!
So Genesis 8 is here!I just realized they skipped Genesis 4,5,6,7. If Microsoft can do it, so can Daz. :)
Wait, they did didn't they?!!
Well, both Microsoft and Daz had reason.
"Windows 9" as a name apparently caused issues with some programs (who would check for Windows 95 and 98 by "Windows 9*" or some such.
Bringing the Genesis and Victoria/Michael numbers into line, especially with Vicky/Michael 4 already existing but being older than "Genesis 4" would have been, makes sense.
Morphing Fantasy Dress for Genesis 8???Ok, the new Genesis 8 female is out and so is Victoria. When will the next iteration of my most purchased product be out?? That is, Morphing Fantasy Dress....I sure do miss the morphing face mask though...
Where can I find textures for Genesis after regular installation?This is probably a bit of overkill, but I have a walk through for creating and saving a Carrara skin shader from a Studio character pack. It starts here.
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/1701046/#Comment_1701046
Back to the specifics. The default textures for Genesis Victoria 5 and Michael 5 will be found in the runtime \ textures folders.
Victoria 5 textures are found in \ Runtime \ Textures \ DAZ \ Characters \ MilWom \ V5
Michael 5 textures are found in \ Runtime \ Textures \ DAZ \ Characters \ MilMan \ M5
Other character pack skin maps depend upon the creator.
RedactedDid you mean $52 rather than $42? I'm seeing a price of $46.29 with the extra 30% discount for all three previous Victoria Pro bundles
Yeah, if they got it for $42 something, you and I are getting ripped off by $4.
Victoria 8, a bridge too far???A lot of you know me, but this post is not what you might think it is.
I personally think the new Vicky 8 looks fantastic!
I also love the backwards compatibility AND the incredibel buy V8 Pro Bundle get V5, V6, & V7 Pro Bundles Free!
I'm a Carrara user, and V8 won't work for me.
My reason for this post is to ask WHY?
WHY do we need V8 so soon?
Just look at some of the new characters for V4 (in one of the other stores), look what they can do with THAT technology.
Daz has yet to fully push its Victoria 6 to the limits of its technology!
Not to mention Victoria 7.
I just wish you guys let the technology breathe a little. I have no doubt in short order you could have gotten V8 quality renders out of V6!
I'm not saying don't try to make great looking figures, just use what you have and make it stretch.
I just saw a link in a signature to V8 usability in Carrara in this thread -
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/176191/m8-will-be-her-mate#latest
OOPS! Sorry, that's Genesis 3. My bad. I need to learn to read.
Victoria 8 problemVictoria 8. I purchased the Pro bundle. Not shore if the Daz update has made things worse but the quallity is terrable,
Victoria 8The Genesis 8 figure's eyes look strangely oblong-shaped to me. I don't know if Victoria 8's appearance is based on real people, but she reminds me of the supermodel Gisele when I googled pictures of her. I will be interested to see the characters that come out for Victoria 8 and Genesis 8. I already spent a large amount completing my Genesis 2 and Genesis 3 Michael and Victoria pro bundles this month when they were on sale, so I think I will hold off on Victoria 8 and see what other products come out for her before I take the plunge. I am enjoying looking at the renders of the new figures posted by community members.
MimicMolly's Renders & WIPsI apologize that this is a bit rushed, but like a few others I've seen on here, I'm certainly not hyped for Genesis 4 Female/Victoria 8. Genesis 8 is a stupid name for this generation IMHO. I have nothing against the figure, it's just a matter of I've been having using G3F so I doubt this new model would even function with my laptop.
Anyway, I tried to recreate celebrity Nicki Minaj using a combination of the Genesis 3 Female Head Morphs and Dogz' 200 Plus Head &Face Morphs for Genesis 3 Female(s). I tried even to do a nice scene with Leyton Hair and Something Wicked for Genesis 3 Female(s). But for some reason, G3F doesn't get along with my lights. So I just rendered her as is without the lights. Skin texture is from Kiki for Kalea 7.


Here is a bonus render with her using Charm Hair and the Basic Wear that come in DAZ Studio. So what do you think?
RedactedSo let me get this straight, I can get the 3 pro bundles I've previously purchased for free if I buy the new G8 pro bundle? What the what?
Nope, you get an extra big discount if you previously bought all pro Vicky bundles. (The more you already have, the bigger the discount.)
Well, for some reason it did not count my pro bundle via the Carrara upgrade purchase, even though it shows every single item in that bundle as owned. It does credit me for the other 2 previously purchased bundles and puts my price on the pro bundle at $42.32. Does this sound like I'm getting credit for all 3 pro bundles?
Did you mean $52 rather than $42? I'm seeing a price of $46.29 with the extra 30% discount for all three previous Victoria Pro bundles
Not at all impressedI don't think V8 is attractive at all. Her torso looks too compact and her head is too big. For the first time ever, I'll be skipping a Victoria. For now I will have fun with the basic G8 shape and her add-on morphs until a better character comes along.
Molly HD for Genesis 3 Females (Commercial)Molly's Eyebrows also work on Genesis 8 and Victoria 8. Just autofit it:)
Victoria 8 problemYes, DIM redownloaded...
BUT as i mentioned uninstall/reinstall via CONNECT of Genesis 8 Female Starter Essentials DID work ;-)
So the problem was definitely a corrupt Genesis 8 Female Starter Essentials...
Now Genesis 8 Female and Victoria 8 work fine...
So Genesis 8 is here!I join with my silly questions too. I've just discovered this new figure literally just now and haven't even time to download Starter Essentials. Honestly, I'm excited but I haven't got accustomed to Genesis 3 yet to feel enough comfortable, and here is the new generation. What is really revolutionary in this figure to skip all generations from 4 to 7? I looked through the forum and learned that she has the same UVs as G3F (thanks God!) - does it mean that her own texture maps can be used on G3F too? They wrote that G8 has the most backward compatibility ever, through included clones for Genesis, Genesis 2, & Genesis 3 and ultimate Content Compatibility. What does it mean really - as I understand, morphs transferring is not possible yet because of different vertices order - how about clothing and props? Can I use all clothing for previous Genesis Generations on G8 and vice versa - her native recently made clothing and hair on G3F or G3M? About bones - I struggled enough with pose converters and would like to use the most part of G3 poses and expressions without such difficulties - how about this kind of stuff, especially facial expressions? Does they really got facial realism and can I apply expressions of G3F on this new face in a mouseclick as before? And how about coming back from that new default pose to old T-Pose?
What about separate eyelashes and tear and no-brow textures - I glad to hear if it's true because morphing G3 eyes in Zbrush was a constain pain in the neck for me, especially with transferred old shapes from V4 and M4. Even after GenX, eyeballs went deep in eye sockets and eyelashes were torn from the face mesh. How about G8 - if new lashes are conformers now, does it make eye morphing easier? And all nails too? If they turn off default HD morphs, it's a great relieft too. What are other prominent improvements which worth testing? I read about Muscle contraction - is it based on a multitude of JCMs? My recent experiment with Kids4 and G3M showed that any extreme or child transferred shape from Gen 4 and perhaps from Genesis too does require creating many JCMs, in addition to existing JCMs of Genesis 3. So I hope that G8 utilises any more progressive technology but suspect there is no great steps forward.
And the last qustion about textures - are they purposed mostly for Iray or can be used with other render engines like LuxRender? I like this render engine and Reality, because it works the best on my old system. With G3, I learned that skin materials need adjusting for Reality, but thanks to Paolo Ciccone base presets for G3F and G3M it became easier to adjust custom skins than before these presets. For Genesis 8 we have no such presets for Luxrender yet. I hope all coming heap of new character skins and materials won't be fixed upon Iray. And Legacy UVs - I understand they are unusable now with G8 and any other older skin as Genesis 2 or V4 should be rebaked on G8. Well, we can wait. But how about Victoria 8 - she can use G3F's skins out of the box or she has her own UV-mapping, distinct from Genesis 8 Female?
Pff. The whole heap of questions. I hope for patient answers. Next two-three days I cannot test G8 by myself, because far from my PC with installed Studio, so I would be glad to hear opinions of other testers. Thanks in advance.
Victoria 8 Makeup not changing?Hi guys.
Put V8 up on the screen, gave her eyebrows, tried to set a default makeup face for her - nothing happens. Doesn't change. I can change eye color, and if I go to default maps, she changes back to default - but none of her other faces will appear. Any ideas?
Am I crazy or what?Ok, it was me and I am crazy.... apparently I should have added tthe FREE content to the shopping cart BEFORE checking out! Just entered a support ticket to see if I can get this fixed or if I have to request a refund and re-purchas V9... One of the main reasons I bought V8 at this time was that I could also get V7, the only Victoria I DON't have at this pointand the chance to get both for one price was irressistable. Normally I would have waited until funds were more stable and a feew more reviews of V8 came out...
Victoria 8Elizabeth - https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-elizabeth-hd-for-victoria-8 rendered in iray with Daz Studio default lights.
I think, she looks great and I like Power Pose a lot - much easier to pose or adjust ready made poses and expressions.
Yeah, Elizabeth is great I nearly bought her too despite that I decided I would stick only to the head, body, & expression packs.
Am I crazy or what?Still showing it for me:
Get Victoria 5 Pro Bundle, Victoria 6 Pro Bundle & Victoria 7 Pro Bundle
FREE* at checkout when you buy Victoria 8 Pro Bundle at the same time.Contains the Victoria 8 base character plus everything you see here.
Victoria 8 problemSo here's an update thus far ..not that I heard from daz. The essentials package is working the morphs are there, Victoria 8 is still not working,the nail files for Raw Arts Honey do not work the shaders do not work on the antennas. I am sure there will be more but I'm done with it for today.Worst roll out ever .Shame on you Daz.
















