In the transfer dialog, maybe try the "current" shape for 8.1, and 'reverse deformations' so the Angel shapes don't double in the clothing.

Darknessvaltier said:

I not used a transfer utility, because with that you can't transfer textures too, i used a WRAP tool to do that:

First time WRAP user here with barely an evenings worth of time in it, and this is what I came up with to wrap all the G8.1 textures on to the wrapped and brushed G8.1>G9 figure

Left tree is G9 separated into surface materials, middle is the mesh wrap, and then on the right I extract and combine the textures from G8.1 materials to save into 4 new textures for G9 mesh

I skipped the nails for now, and boy what a headache and hairpulling it was till I figured out there where multiple U "levels" for one material...

is it really this finicky or just my inexperience allowed me to find the most difficult way to get this to work? Combining Head texture was probably the most work, had to photoshop it quite a bit to fix seams and overlaps (maybe better merging in Wrap could make it less of a hasle)

transperancy and other material textures still left to do...

 

Any chance we could get Genesis 8 to genesis 9 v8 to v9 shape, morph and/textures converters? Not just for content creators buy for the everyday users as well? Not everyone has the time or intelligence to do it themselves! I have a but not b;) prop converters would be nice too please. I know y'all busy I'll be patient. Just kinda don't wanna wait a decade lol. That's playful hyperbole just fyi

Right now I don't see much reason. Sure you can convert all your stuff to G9 and make it work...but at that point why not just use a G8 figure instead?

The main things I like are the unified mesh and separate eyes and mouth. But these are not exactly revolutionary advances. G9 will need a lot more content to get me truly on board.

The thing I find most baffling is that Daz had a whole month to get this right, and still managed to botch the launch so badly. The slow trickle of content also makes it feel like this was just not planned very well. Where are the freakin morph packs? Converters? After all this hype, it doesn't feel like Daz put their best effort into this. Who is commanding this ship???

You have a chicken and egg situation here. You need G9 to storm out of the gate with a ton of content, otherwise you run a real risk of users being slow to adopt. If users are slow to adopt...that translates to slow sales for the PAs who jump on board. So this can become a serious problem. We need the content that lets users make the most of G9, and we needed that content yesterday.

The worst problem that Genesis 9 has is that Genesis 8 exists. You have an uphill battle to convince users to jump on board. I think Daz needs to be just as aggressive as they were in the early G8 days. Remember those buy this new G8 core and get 2 or 3 others free? The whole world is sliding into recession right now, Daz needs to sweeten the pot by offering a lot more free content with Genesis 9 products.

Also if you suck at lighting or posing people in a believable way, Genesis 9 is not going to make you any better. Most of the changes are pretty minor in scope. Victoria 9 has some nice textures...but that can be done with any model and there are plenty of G8 models that have amazing textures and quality.

The UV layout is weird to me. Did they really have to pull the ears out of the head like that? The body UV has these real skinny strips sticking out at the ends. The male gen mat IMO is pretty wack. You have a triangle with empty space in the middle, with the other parts split in half flanking it. There is no flow on the male gen UV, and you pretty much need a 3D painting app just to make a simple edit on this texture. I don't get how this is better.

Really, all I did with Hexagon was use it as a method to get the object renamed and sent right back into D/S.

You can just export the .obj [no groups] out of D/S, rename the file, import that back into D/S using Morph Loader Pro and make the morph. I like using Hexagon because it tends to be more dummy proof for me ;-)

I've done this before without a hitch, but get this weird result (see attachements), as if there's some king of simulation or pose offset happening at the end after using the Transfer Utility..
It's a mesh imported from marvelous Designer, the character is G8.1 with the Angel shapes added (that's what I exported to MD)..
If anyone has a an idea of what the problem might be..
Thanks in advance

franky85 said:

There's a freebie script at rendo here that takes a currently loaded G8F pose and applies it to a G9 character.

Also here https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/598316/g8f-m-pose-transfer-to-g9#latest

ioonrxoon said:

Kitbash-A-Cenobite™

Free:

Holey Moley (Didn't expect to ever find a use for this)
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/91063/holey-moley-for-genesis-8
Ancient Mine (with emissive planes behind the planks)
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/79441/ancient-mine-for-daz-studio
Pinwheel (Nsfw Link)
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/FREEBIE-Pinwheel-UPDATE-with-the-obj-files-724331983
Sexy Witch Dress (Nsfw Link)
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/Happy-Halloween-FREEBIE-Sexy-Witch-Dress-817760578
Nipple Chain (Nsfw Link)
https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000/art/FREEBIE-BDSM-Nipple-Clamps-and-Chain-726902826
Lament Configuration
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/42436/lament-configuration-for-poser
Leina Outfit
https://www.sharecg.com/v/93731/related/21/DAZ-Studio/Leina-Outfit-for-Daz-Studio-G8F
Props Darkest Dungeon
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/80254/props-darkest-dungeon
Double Strapped Latex Outfit
https://www.deviantart.com/lustravias/art/Double-Strapped-Latex-Outfit-for-G8F-Daz-Freebie-837704491
Anne Hair
https://sharecg.com/v/96421/related/21/DAZ-Studio/Anne-Hair
Atlantis Bikini
https://sharecg.com/v/98960/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Atlantis-Bikini-G8F
Harts3d character morph
https://www.renderhub.com/harts3d/harts3d-character-morph-for-genesis-8-1-female
SY Body Sockets Genesis 8
https://sharecg.com/v/99131/view/21/DAZ-Studio/SY-Body-Sockets-Genesis-8
FP Iconic Makeups
https://sharecg.com/v/99130/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/FP-Iconic-Makeups-for-Genesis-3-8-Males
Dust Mote Cloud
https://www.deviantart.com/squarepeg3d/art/Prop-Dust-Mote-Cloud-875458221
Retro Heroine 8 Outfit
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/77959/retro-heroine-8-outfit
Smearmaps
https://www.deviantart.com/smida460/art/Freebie-SmidA-TestRender-Smearmaps-G3F-G8F-802725685
SY Fantasy Priesthood Genesis 8
https://sharecg.com/v/99094/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/SY-Free-Servo-Skull-Iray
Pd-Soft Leather Daz Studio Shaders
https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/75152/pd-soft-leather-daz-studio-shaders-for-iray

 

Other:

The fleshy bit in the hole is from Flesh Pit by squarepeg3d, looks like it's not available anymore.

 

Paid:

Zelda La Freak (Cheek Morph)
BELLA The Living Doll (Eye Morph)
PTF Grungy Threads (Pinwheel Blood Layer)
Cinematic Light FX plus Atmosphere

 

No Count:

8.1 Skin

 

The attached one is without postwork.

All The Links Check Out Plz Post In The Entries Thread!

AllenArt said:

Chatjd said:

Richard mentioned in the "Mid-way through 2022 a new Sales... Thread that the morph packs are due next week some time:

Richard Haseltine said:

Daz is aware of the morph requirement issue. Unfortunately they cannot release the morph packs today, but they wil be out as early as possible next week we are told.

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/7784941/#Comment_7784941

Next week???!! Almost may as well be next year...all the shine's worn off already as it is. Next week I'll be on to something else. Sheesh.... 

Daz should change their motto to "Hurry up and wait...". I had to wait for the figure after buying it. Now we're expected to buy all this **** for G9 and can't even really do anything with it until god knows when. Most of the stuff that HAS come out for G9 so far relies on those missing morphs in some way. Way to go Daz. I remember a day when Daz did most everything right - products were correct on release, the company didn't breathe a word of of a figure or software release until everything was ready to go. Wow, how times have changed.

I'll be back if and when the head and body morphs show up...

+1

Gogger said:

YIKES.
I just got an email from DAZ saying they miss me as I haven't been around much, with an incentive to come back:
"Better yet, we have an exclusive offer just for you! Return to Daz today and use this Coupon Code to get an EXTRA $10 OFF* Victoria 9 HD."

I had one of those. The code didn't work. I'm not going to put a ticket into customer service. I can't be bothered. 

There's a freebie script at rendo here that takes a currently loaded G8F pose and applies it to a G9 character.

I don't think there's a lot of room for Hallowe'en candy in Big Bad Red's basket.  It doesn't appear that there is a morph to lower the hood, and that means a different cloak will be required.

No need to worry..Growing Up has two morphs. It's native chest flatten morph, and also supports the breast gone morph from Daz (which I recently fixed, and mimics the chest flatten morph). Regardless, I will be attempting to make a clothing projection morph like I did with the G8 version, but I need more native G9 clothing samples first. But ultimately it is up to clothing vendors to add support for Growing Up. A lot do because of its popularity, but it is not something I can force them to do.

Richard Haseltine said:

thell_michael said:

Richard Haseltine said:

thell_michael said:

CB Arceli HD for Genesis 9

seems also to be somehow broken :(

at least the finger joints are if you bend them more than a few degrees

That sounds like an issue with joint adjustments. Which verrion of Daz Studio are you using?

and also a file is missing

Which file?

/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Body/body_bs_NailsLengthSquare.dsf

is missing

and i m using 4.21 

on the joints

it s simple to see if you just take generic gen 9 slightly bend the fingers of one hand and then dial in the Arceli body, you can see how the joints are getting missaligned 

or create and new arceli figure and bend fingers

1st joint is ok, 2nd and 3rd are completly broken

As stated above, the mising morph is almost certainly from the body morphss et that is due early next week - it may well be marked asa  required product internally, but even if it is with no refreant the note will not show.

I would expect the joint changes to be tied to the basic shape slider, though i suppose if there was also a link to the missing morphs that might cause it. Still, it does sound like a bug so I think it is worth reporting.

 

The whole shape of CB Arceli looks weird. I have around 10 CB characters for Genesis 3, 8 and 8.1 and none of their bodies looks as bad as this one.

If this is tied to the not yet available morph package, DAZ is damaging the reputation of the PA's releasing early.

I logged 3 support tickets for Genesis 9 and am considering returning all of this mess.

 

Leana said:

Peter Wade said:

beregar said:

AllenArt said:

They do work on the base G9, but they are not like the standard expressions that we usually get. They move eyes as well as the face, which I don't really care for. Normally with most new generations, they release an expressions pack, a head morph pack and a body morph pack. We haven't seen those yet and I have NO idea when we will. The base is pretty useless without them, as is most of the stuff in the store for G9 so far. A lot of it relies on those missing morphs. Daz has been totally bass ackwards on this whole release.

The head and body morphs should come out next week according to Richard. No idea if there will be an expression pack though.

If I remember it rightly I bought head and body morphs and an expression set almost as soon as each generation was released. I would like to have been able to do the same for Genesis 9.

At a guess, there was a last minute problem with the product which delayed the launch.

Even the G9 Starter Essentials had problems which surfaced immediately once anyone tried to use them... Does not sound like there was much testing done, QA - What's that? 

WendyLuvsCatz said:

you can do this without buying the wrap tool because a clone shape already exists for all the DAZ genesis generations

no other software other than DAZ studio needed

that tool is for getting shapes from other third party figures such as game content

or scans like the 3DSK content as shown

you can however use Blender to transfer baked textures between the clone export and other Genesis figures

How i use that? have a video tutorial?

Peter Wade said:

beregar said:

AllenArt said:

They do work on the base G9, but they are not like the standard expressions that we usually get. They move eyes as well as the face, which I don't really care for. Normally with most new generations, they release an expressions pack, a head morph pack and a body morph pack. We haven't seen those yet and I have NO idea when we will. The base is pretty useless without them, as is most of the stuff in the store for G9 so far. A lot of it relies on those missing morphs. Daz has been totally bass ackwards on this whole release.

The head and body morphs should come out next week according to Richard. No idea if there will be an expression pack though.

If I remember it rightly I bought head and body morphs and an expression set almost as soon as each generation was released. I would like to have been able to do the same for Genesis 9.

At a guess, there was a last minute problem with the product which delayed the launch.

gbritton said:

bikdingle said:

dennisgray41 said:

Leana said:

Eboshijaana said:

I found this: https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-body-shapes-merchant-resource

That one is for the PAs who will use them as part of their products. The "regular user" version is not available yet.

PA has to pay 7 grand up front for just the one resorce? Ouch! I wonder how long it takes to break even?

I expect that the PA's get a coupon or banner to allow them to download it for free.

So, if you are an aspiring PA you have to pay $10K to get the tools you need.  Makes it almost impossible to ever become a PA.

The merchant resource version of the morphs allows you to bake the morphs you used as part of your own morph.
If you don’t have the merchant resource version you can still create a character which requires the morph pack (with a master dial which sets the required morph's value), as was done for earlier figures. 

Ad 1) is an unlisted requirements to the morph packs that is said to come next week.

I have two issues with CB Arceli.

1. I get a load error for a missing nails morph.

2. When bending her hands, the fingers deform

This may be an odd question, but since this issue required making a new morph to correct the chest, might this cause issues down the road with clothing that doesn't use this new morph? The breast gone morph is commonly found in supported morphs for clothing. But this morph is not technically breast gone, correct? So future G9 clothing that has breast gone supported might not conform well to these models using this morph. 

Is that correct?

It would really suck if this fix winds up hurting the product long term, simply because Daz couldn't get their own morph pack released.