Hi,I've been experimenting with some juvesatriani's PWTOON settings combined with some Clip Paint Studio effects and over painting. Thank you Juvesatriani for creating such a great shader.

juvesatriani said:

@pavsikakyj 

About pw toon presets , I`m not yet done with my new presets . actually the new ones only about color pallete variations which I`ve sampled from several cool comic 

But if you have pwtoon preset from @crescent , that will doing the job ,

I`m including the unfinished color pallete in this post-  the old presets plus new IRAY PS action  in case yours get deleted  

!JS Flat

!JS Stylized

!New JS IRAY TOON KIT ( photoshop action)  Note : after installed GreycStoration and before run any action Open the filter in Photoshop , TICK use GPU feature

That will make smooth action proces faster 

 

Thanks man! You are my savior!

juvesatriani said:

@pavsikakyj 

About pw toon presets , I`m not yet done with my new presets . actually the new ones only about color pallete variations which I`ve sampled from several cool comic 

But if you have pwtoon preset from @crescent , that will doing the job ,

I`m including the unfinished color pallete in this post-  the old presets plus new IRAY PS action  in case yours get deleted  

!JS Flat

!JS Stylized

!New JS IRAY TOON KIT ( photoshop action)  Note : after installed GreycStoration and before run any action Open the filter in Photoshop , TICK use GPU feature

That will make smooth action proces faster 

 

Thanks man! You are my savior!

@pavsikakyj 

About pw toon presets , I`m not yet done with my new presets . actually the new ones only about color pallete variations which I`ve sampled from several cool comic 

But if you have pwtoon preset from @crescent , that will doing the job ,

I`m including the unfinished color pallete in this post-  the old presets plus new IRAY PS action  in case yours get deleted  

!JS Flat

!JS Stylized

!New JS IRAY TOON KIT ( photoshop action)  Note : after installed GreycStoration and before run any action Open the filter in Photoshop , TICK use GPU feature

That will make smooth action proces faster 

 

juvesatriani said:

I`ve been spending some times finding perfect NPR style which similliar with mine( or better?) from Stable Diffusion .

I think I`m starting to get what I wanted . And It also seem work fine for interior or exterior background/props .

The reason of this experiment to know if possible doing crowds - complex background without rendering from DAZ or Blender

Here the few examples (and yeah these are NFSW model LOL ) . Would love to share the prompt if anyone want to try 

 

Looks amazing. Sign me up, please!
And could you please give me your latest PWToon tune ups, since I lost all my developments while fleeing from war. Will try to recover things and maybe find a new style.

Oso3D said:

I've used 3dl shaders with dForce Hair on a few occasions. I've even experimented with PWToon shader, heh.

There are no 3dl shaders that will do texture UV based on the underlying figure, which is obviously a problem for some things. But there are some ways around that, and for many uses that's not so critical.

I think I need to (try to) comission a certain fox to make a proper pathtracer compatible SBH shader;) The GB shader of course renders solid black with scripted pathtracing so can't use it anyway. Wowie's AWE Hair shader is actually based on the 3DL hair spec BRDF, same as Garibaldi, and sees RiCurves, but it is geared towards rendering traditional polygonal hair cards, so, due to the uv-solution you get this flat shade (root-tip blending of course works), and, even worse, you can't adjust specular roughness, it's either 0 or 1. So yeah I use curves for brows, vaellus-type stuff, armpit- etc hair, long hair looks just plain bad, but renders in seconds/minutes.  

Edit: Made this scene some year ago to test AWE Hair shader on GB hair. So it's still useful for obscure non-PBR-stuff, but as you can see the diffuse color is uniform.

I've used 3dl shaders with dForce Hair on a few occasions. I've even experimented with PWToon shader, heh.

There are no 3dl shaders that will do texture UV based on the underlying figure, which is obviously a problem for some things. But there are some ways around that, and for many uses that's not so critical.

Basic Render done using my pwToon Preset ( !JS Stylized) . Overal color adjustment  - edge enhancer for hair and cropped done in Photoshop 

juvesatriani said:

Face cam shoot from my earlier character design . Like always Render using my pwToon preset and enhance in Photoshop

BTW it so hard to make extreme expression without shift lot our character initial face shape . DO you guys have any tips ?

I wouldn't worry too much about expressions shifting the face shape and just use whatever expression tells the audience what the character is feeling. As long as the hair, costume, skin tone, and all that stays consistent the audience will be able to tell who it is, regardless of how extreme the expression is on their face. The important part is conveying to the audience what it is you want them to know and having accurate and unmistakable expressions is an important factor in that, IMO. This is a really lovely render by the way, as always your vibrant colors really make the images pop!

juvesatriani said:

@3Diva , thanks for nice words!!

TBH the reason why i1m still in 3DL just because I dont have proper machine for IRAY right now . But @vrba79 @phloki3D , you and any other already proved that you can keep produce awesome NPR images with IRAY .

FYI Other than pwToon , I`m also dont have proper 3DL knowledges , especially with standard and realism render outcome . Right now I have more knowledge about Blender in that part than 3DL.

My technique actually really old school since I came to know toon shader from 3D max version 5 era,  and watching lots of Youtube coloring comic tutorial ( in  2d graphic editor) . So each time I try  new 3D programs ( include daz studio and poser back then ) my goal always wanna  know how to get FLAT render - sharp Shadow and make lighting behave as additional coloring/mood  tools .

If those possible , the rest will be come

Yeah 3DL guys maybe get lucky with straight toon shaders like pwToon - Visual Style shaders and manga style  . But  OSO toon also great !! Especially if you OK layering in 2D image editor to get superb result . It doesnt matter how the images created . Straight render - No Postwork or heavy postwork . The final images will tell other people how your craftman efforts and skills .

Thanks

 

I totally agree, it's less about the programs or process and more about the end result. And whatever works for you or gives you the look closest to what you're aiming for is what's important. It's fun for me to experiment with different programs, render engines, and processes and see what looks I can get. I really enjoy seeing such a wide variety of NPR styles. I'm still searching for "the one" that I'm 100% happy with or that I feel is solidly "my style". I think I will find "my style" eventually but for now it's fun experiencing the different NPR looks I can get with different render engines, shaders, programs, and workflows.

Face cam shoot from my earlier character design . Like always Render using my pwToon preset and enhance in Photoshop

BTW it so hard to make extreme expression without shift lot our character initial face shape . DO you guys have any tips ?

@3Diva , thanks for nice words!!

TBH the reason why i1m still in 3DL just because I dont have proper machine for IRAY right now . But @vrba79 @phloki3D , you and any other already proved that you can keep produce awesome NPR images with IRAY .

FYI Other than pwToon , I`m also dont have proper 3DL knowledges , especially with standard and realism render outcome . Right now I have more knowledge about Blender in that part than 3DL.

My technique actually really old school since I came to know toon shader from 3D max version 5 era,  and watching lots of Youtube coloring comic tutorial ( in  2d graphic editor) . So each time I try  new 3D programs ( include daz studio and poser back then ) my goal always wanna  know how to get FLAT render - sharp Shadow and make lighting behave as additional coloring/mood  tools .

If those possible , the rest will be come

Yeah 3DL guys maybe get lucky with straight toon shaders like pwToon - Visual Style shaders and manga style  . But  OSO toon also great !! Especially if you OK layering in 2D image editor to get superb result . It doesnt matter how the images created . Straight render - No Postwork or heavy postwork . The final images will tell other people how your craftman efforts and skills .

Thanks

 

Straight render from DAZ Studio and pwToon . All line generated by GeoShell with several modification in z- depth cutof and offset value .   To make brighter I set Gain ( in 3Delight render setting) up to 1.1 

EDIT--- Adding photoshop correction and BG version

See, I'm not super into the 3Delight/pwToon looks that make up the bulk of this thread, but this is definitely a look I could get into.

juvesatriani said:

 

Some mashup exploration between IRAY ( for getting Bloom FX ) and pwToon for upcoming gig project.   

Even I think Blender EEVEE Bloom and freestyle probably giving me better results but working in DAZ seem easier for entire project workflow .

Now I need to learn how to get proper IRAY Bloom results before I keep exporting scene into Blender :)

This is great! I was thinking of combining Iray effects and textures as well with canvases IF it doesn't make my workflow take too long.

LoreMistress Izaria said:

MagesMoon said:

Awesome Harley Quinn! 
Really quick test render using the free manga lights with visual style and the geometry shell outline. I am 100% loving it. 
 

I love this! Which geometry shell outline did you use?

It's the free geoshell from the Manga Style and VSS thread. I didn't change anything here though, just applied as is. I'm also using the  lights and render settings from the free pack. 
Thread here

 

csaa said:

MagesMoon,

I have to confess I don't know much about 3Delight rendering or any of the Daz NPR add ons using 3Delight. Like yourself, I had a 'vision' in mind, a particular NPR aesthetic, when I started experimenting with NPR more than a year ago. At that point, I surveyed my options and found a good number of tools: Daz-Iray or Daz-3Delight; Blender; even Unreal. Sensing the deep dive I was about to make, I made the choice to keep things simple and and to stay with up to three options. Happily I got the look I wanted on the third try. (First was Daz-Sketchy; then Daz-Unreal using Unreal cel shaders; last, Daz-Blender with Eevee.)

I believe I understand what you're aiming for when you say you want the "softer shaded" look. I grew up appreciating anime cel shading in the 80s and 90s; to me that's the aesthetic you're trying to evoke. I also understand why you say Sketchy falls short of it. Not to hard sell it, Sketchy can approximate that with a bit of elbow grease. But seeing that you've hit the mark with 3Delight ... congratulations! I've been on that long and winding road of experimentation -- full of false turns and compromises -- and I know the satisfaction that comes with reaching one's goal.

.......

That's exactly it. I have seen what can be done with Eevee and Unreal and it's very cool. I wish DAZ would also embrace NPR because there is a strong come back going on in other communities. If we talk about it then maybe that'll help. Thank you to everyone participating in these threads they have been very helpful to me in figuring out how to approach things. I don't know much about 3 delight either but I think it'll be easier to learn then diving into Blender. Although I do recognize I might have to learn Blender anyway if support for 3 delight and VSS drops entirely. Really sad to not see a trace of pwtoon on the store as an example. 

Some mashup exploration between IRAY ( for getting Bloom FX ) and pwToon for upcoming gig project.   

Even I think Blender EEVEE Bloom and freestyle probably giving me better results but working in DAZ seem easier for entire project workflow .

Now I need to learn how to get proper IRAY Bloom results before I keep exporting scene into Blender :)

 

 

juvesatriani said:

Revisit my JSFlat (pwToon) and photoshop action enhancement

Wow! That's stunning! Well done! If I saw that on DeviantArt or Instagram I'd definitely not immediately guess that it's 3D. I think it's VERY close to "passing" for 2D! You're getting such a great style and look with your process!

Revisit my JSFlat (pwToon) and photoshop action enhancement

Check out my free Photoshop action . This not straight forward though , you need to dial or make changes in several parameters because each render is different . I believe I`m also include the rough documentation how to use it 

You can check my signature to see several example and another toon freebie ( mostly using pwToon )