Ah, ok thank you. That is a better explenation: to get their intended look you need victoria, but otherwise it'll all work. Yes I am new. I'm trying to decide my first few purchaces to get started creating stuff.  But it is a little misleading, when it specifically says 'REQUIRED PRODUCTS: VICTORIA' in the list below the "add to cart" button. I've read around the forums to understand that older genesis stuff should all be compatable with newer genesis stuff, and even cross gender models, so that requirement thing just sorta threw me and needed clarification.  Thanks again.

It's not misleading.  In order for any character like Victoria 8 or Tara 8 or Olympia 8 to work in the first place, you need Genesis 8 Female.  Some characters are then created over other characters, so you need to have that character for it to look exactly like it shows in the promo. The morph will also work on just Genesis 8 Female, but will look a bit different since it doesn't have the influence of Victoria 8. As for the skin and HD, that should work on the base (G8F) or Victoria or Olympia.  As you seem new to this, you're just not familiar with how it works.  It does, however, allow you to create s multitude of unique looks by using different morphed characters or mixes with other characters.  You can often also mix and match between many skins, like use the Skin from Tara but the eyes from another character, and the lips from yet another as an example.

Olympia and Victoria are both characters based on Genesis 8 Female and they use the same UVs so Tara should work on Olympia as far as the skin and HD.  Should be able to use the horns and you should also be able to mix between the two characters.

Thanks for the quick reply.  If you're right, why doesn't it just say 'Tara 2 HD for genesis 8 female.'   Saying it is specifically for Victoria seems a bit misleading.....sorry for nitpicking lol, but when it comes to real money purchases it's better be sure.

Olympia and Victoria are both characters based on Genesis 8 Female and they use the same UVs so Tara should work on Olympia as far as the skin and HD.  Should be able to use the horns and you should also be able to mix between the two characters.

I'm looking at buying the Olympia 8 pro bundle, and the Tara HD for victoria looks interesting as well.  Does any of the Tara stuff work on the Olympia character? Or other Genisis 8 models?  Or is this all just a cash grab making you have to buy all the base characters in order to use that one extra set you buy to customize one model?

2014 December 16 - Minotaur 6

2014 December 23 - Reptilian 6

2015 February 26 - Monique 6 / Darius 6

2015 Jun 23 - Victoria 7

2015 Jul 21 - Eva 7

2015 Aug 4 - Bethany 7

2015 Aug 19 - Karen 7

2015 Sep 15 - Teen Josie 7

2015 Oct 20 - Arabella 7

2015 Nov 17 - Michael 7

2015 Dec 15 - Olympia 7

2015 Dec 22 - Leo 7

2016 Jan 19 - Gia 7

2016 Jan 26 - Gianni 7

2016 Feb 16 - Girl 7

2016 Feb 23 - Guy 7

2016 Mar 24 - Izabella 7

2016 Apr 7 - Mei Lin 7

2016 Apr 19 - Lee 7

2016 May 10 - Kalea 7

2016 May 24 - Kimo 7

2016 June 7 - Rune 7

2016 June 21 - Ivan 7

2016 July 5 - Aiko 7

2016 July 19 - Kenji 7

2016 Aug 9 - Tween Julie 7

2016 Aug 23 - Tween Ryan 7

2016 Sep 13 - Sunny 7

2016 Oct 6 - Lilith 7

Better late than never?

barbult's Top 4 for July

1. Benita for Victoria 8     Render 1  Render 2 mixed with other morphs    Render 3 mixed with other morphs
2. Voss Hair for G3F and G8F   Render 1
3. Morpheus   Render 1    These morphs were also ported to G3F and mixed with Toon Generation 2 Render 2 as used in RRRR
4. MA-1 Flight Jacket for G3F      Render 1   Render 2 in both renders, the jacket is autofit to G8F
    

It makes commercial sense to have a string of female characters after the initial launch because (apart from the general higher popularity of things female) all the supporting items cross polinate. Even if a new figure itself doesn't appeal to a buyer of Victoria 8, the clothing and hair probably will, etc. So those odds (along with previous experience) lean toward another female.

The key factor in favor of an early G8 Male is that it'll (almost certainly) be the G3 male with tweaks (as with G3F + tweaks = G8F). This easier and cheaper route to market might mean a faster route to market.

I'm also picking up the Kingdom of Marrakesh Iray update, (along with Kingdom of Marrakesh and Ochre City, both in Fast Grab.,) which gives me three new releases and 70% off the featured sale stuff. I really hate passing up an opportunity to save big on stuff. But the cart total has me questioning whether or not I should just wishlist one or the other of the two characters and drop all the 70% off stuff... decisions, decisions...

Yeah, I did two complete orders with the 70% from the other day, I ended up going back and keeping everything on both lists. Wish I could have rendered some of it for the thread, but had the outdoor work yesterday and now off to get tarps/plywood to cover up the bamboo stumps to try and and kill it. (Very sad about that, but they had grown to FORTY FEET and were taking over the neighbor's trees/ doing shade and killing her grass.)  These were clumping (I'm no dummy), so they didn't run but the info ticket on the trees said they would go to twenty feet- yeah, right.) 

I wanted to start a conversation actually on the thread, that I'm having with a lot of people via PMs and emails. This is just me thinking out loud. So folks- what are your thoughts? Here's the question:

Do you think it's a good idea to have such deeply discounted sales right before a major new release? I have no clue when Genesis 8 Male / Michael 8 will be released, but past trends show a big sale right before a big release, to get every penny out of what then becomes the previous generation. They did it for Victoria 7, before releasing the 8. The reason I ask if it's a good idea is because then buyers' funds are more limited to spend on the new release. This doesn't make sense  to me though, as they would want  the most people as possible to spend money on the new release. But these sales are crazy!

So most of the Victoria 4 props should be usable on all Gen2, 3 and 8 figures, although they might not fit well, right ?

I get confused about which characters are G3F. Since there is a Victoria 4 and Mike 4, I would think that G3 refers to V3 and M3, but somehow I think that G3 is maybe the 7 characters. Or maybe the 6.

Yes Saphire is correct

V3 and M3 are stand alone characters

V4 and M4 are stand alone characters

Genesis has V5 and M5

Genesis 2 has V6 and M6

Genesis 3 has V7 and M7

And they finally fixed the mis matched number in G8 because it has V8 and I am assuming M8- so this last generation all matches.  It is very confusing lol. It took me months and months to get it all straight.

A couple of new things in the Freebies section that can work with Carrara. 

Zoey for V5

Street Rogue Outfit Textures

Super Heart Textures for Heart Attack Outfit 

Twilight Textures 

I got Victoria 7 free I think for buying the Girl 7 Pro Bundle or some other Pro Bundle. I don't remember.

I get confused about which characters are G3F. Since there is a Victoria 4 and Mike 4, I would think that G3 refers to V3 and M3, but somehow I think that G3 is maybe the 7 characters. Or maybe the 6.

V7 is the GF3 I do belive.

V4 and M4 are of GF&M1 I do belive.

V6 is off of GF2 I do belive.

but do not quote me on that, someone might be more suited to tell you which way it goes!!

I understand where the articulated/rigged figures are involved (Victoria, Michael, Genesis, etc) but the the not so complicated props and sets (clocks, furniture, etc) is there really that much more work to make them compatible in Poser as well as DAZ Studio? [I obviously don't model CGI meshes...]

I get confused about which characters are G3F. Since there is a Victoria 4 and Mike 4, I would think that G3 refers to V3 and M3, but somehow I think that G3 is maybe the 7 characters. Or maybe the 6.

hot rocking

all guitars created by Td3d
on bass Victoria8, guitar Mei Lin7, singer Ophelia, drums Victoria 6, guitar Olympia8 (with new texture via facegen), on guitar Daphne (Olympia Pro8 character)

Made with...

• Victoria 6 HD Add-On
• Rama Drums
• Rama Drum Solo Poses
• Pirate for Genesis 3 Female(s)
• Mei Lin 7 HD Add-On
• Render Studio Iray 'Scenes'
• Mei Lin 7 Pro Bundle
• Cathy Hair and OOT Hairblending 2.0
• Midnight Special Hair for Genesis 3 Female(s)
• The Stellacaster Guitar and Poses for Genesis 3
• Crux Outfit For The Genesis 3 Female
• Crux Ii - Rebel Rock Pants
• Victoria 8 Pro Bundle
• Ophelia 7 HD Add-On
• Rock Diva Poses for Genesis 3 Females
• Olympia 8 Pro Bundle
• https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/415456
• 

The lady in front reminds me of Brittany Spears great render!!!!

Rock on Ladies!!!

Going through my emails.  Will update this post as I dig through my 1500 Daz3D emails. lol
Genesis 1 (unisex mesh) (G1)
2012 Aug 22 - Stephanie 5 (G1)
2012 Nov 03 - Hiro 5 (G1)
2012 Dec 20 - Young Teens 5 : Julie and Justin (G1)
2013 Jan 29 - Frreak 5 (G1)
Genesis 2 Female Release (G2F)
2013 Jun 20 - Victoria 6 (G2F)
 

A few more, based on what I can see in my product library:

Victoria 3 - December 2002

Michael 3 - September 2003

David - June 2004

Stephanie 3 - July 2004

The Girl - August 2004

Aiko 3 - November 2004

Young Teens (Luke & Laura) - October 2004

Preschoolers (Matt & Maddie) - February 2005

Hiro 3 - April 2005

Baby 3 - December 2005

--

Victoria 4 - December 2006

Aiko 4 - February 2008

Michael 4 - October 2008

Hiro 4 - January 2009

Girl 4 - March 2009

Kids 4 - April 2010

--

Genesis 1 / Victoria 5 - October 2011

Michael 5 - April 2012

Hiro 5 - October 2012

Young Teens 5 (Julie & Justin) - December 2012

Aiko 5 - February 2013

David 5 - April 2013

--

Genesis 2 Female / V6 - June 2013

Girl 6 - August 2013

Genesis 2 Male / M6 - November 2013

Aiko 6 - June 2014

--

Genesis 3 Female / V7 - June 2015

Genesis 3 Male  / M7 - November 2015

Girl 7 - February 2016

Aiko 7 - July 2016

It depends on what your goals are, what you're hoping to use it for, your timeline for creating goods, what your budget is, which render engine you're going to use etc. 

M4 ends up being the cheapest, but the clothing etc probably isn't as nice, and the textures are lower resolution. The hair also isn't great for that generaion. The muscles don't deform as nicely either.

That all gets better as the generations progress.

The hair for Gen 3 is a huge step up over the others and the character / clothing textures are made with the iray render engine in mind. The problem is though that most new items that are being released are going to support G8, but everything is going to be more expensive, and will take a while for all the content to build up/

something that G8 introduced was an easy way to change the characters expressions, which apparently is really powerful and easy to use. (I'm still using gen2, so I haven't played around with it yet) so if you want more realistic facial features then that's something to consider. 

When they released Victoria 8 they had an offer where if you bought it you got victoria 5,6,7 free. Same with the victoria standard and pro bundles. Michael 8 should be released soon, so they may just repeat that offer. That will solve your dilema as far as Michael goes at least. 

The Documentation Center has the Released Date: field for products with the release date.

This one is Victoria 7:
http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/21750/start

If you know the SKU of the product just switch it for the one above (21750) and you will land on their Doku page. Some products don't have a Doku page.

Thanks! I thought it might be documented somewhere on the site, but wasn't sure where. 

Hmmm. I found this, but no corresponding data for Victoria 1:

• 2000-01-01 Millennium Man Michael 1 

Fortunately, Victoria has a Wikipedia page, so I can look up release years (which is really the main info I want).

Thanks again, and if anyone finds a single resource listing everything, that would be great.