Morning all!
Ok silly question @dreamcatcherphoto have you tried darkening the diffuse on her skin a tad? You mentioned you didn't like how much she was standing out from the background and that might help some.

@aprilshowers2065
very nice render I love the moodiness you have going on!
The only things I would suggest right off the bat are:
1. The snake is poking through the Tyto shawl around knee height
2. The Helenic top is showing pokethrough into the gown below on the center figure and the one by the wolf. To correct this try either adding or increasing the smoothing, increase the Adjust Upper Torso morph. If the combination of those don't work (they should though) I'd suggest adding dForce to it via the simulation pane!

frank0314 said:

Artini said:

It also explains, that Genesis 9 is currently handled by Face Transfer 2,

but Genesis 8 and 8.1 is handled by Face Transfer 1.

Where are you seeing this?

It's mentioned in one or both of the videos. The implication ( although it's not specifically stated ) is that, if you have Face Transfer 2 and there is no character selected, then a G9 character is created, and if you have a G9 character selected, then Face transfer 2 is used to create a face on it. If you have Face transfer 1, and a G8 or 8.1 character selected, then face transfer 1 is used to create a face on it.

Artini said:

This is the answer, about how to connect Daz Studio with AI:

https://www.daz3d.com/face-transfer-2

I don't believe this is true. The AI for DS that Daz has discussed has to do with setting up scenes.

Artini said:

It also explains, that Genesis 9 is currently handled by Face Transfer 2,

but Genesis 8 and 8.1 is handled by Face Transfer 1.

Where are you seeing this?

Hi, I am making a game and have some problem understanding the license, I bought genesis3 as well as 8, a morph for shape of the face, some clothes, I bought interactive license for every one of the objects and made a character adjusting size of the head, muscles etc, reduced to base resolution and exported a collada to blender to furter work in the rigging, my question is if there is some kind of legal problem to make my main character using those models, the interactive license suggest it can be used but then there is some new license extra and I dont really know if continue working with those models or require explicit permision, I have seen chinese games that aparently use characters made from genesis models can someone explain it in asimple way with examples please?

I'm new to Daz and just installed it the other day. There is no Face Transfer 2 listed in my plugins. I guess we have to wait for the update. There are Youtube tutorials up now.

Some tips on the photo, to be used for Face Transfer 2:

File Type: PNG or JPG,
Minimum Size: 128 px by 128 px
Passport style photo preferred
with neutral lighting, neutral expression,
looking directly at the camera
and any hair should be pulled away from the forehead, temples and cheeks
in order to get the best results.

It is even better, than I thought.

With Face Transfer 2 one can exchange the face on Genesis 9 character in some already made scene

with the another face from the photo and the skin of Genesis 9 will be updated

to match the skin on the face from the photo.

It opens up so many new possibilities for me.

It also explains, that Genesis 9 is currently handled by Face Transfer 2,

but Genesis 8 and 8.1 is handled by Face Transfer 1.

Anfy said:

Un intermezzo ai guai di MM... che pericolo per il portafogli l'annuncio di Face Transfer 2 con supporto per Genesis 9! Sinora ho evitato come la morte la nuova generazione proprio perché l'usatissimo ed adusatissimo FT si fermava alla Gen 8, ma ora... brrr!!!

Nulla di interessante.

Anzi, è pericoloso, quando hanno lanciato la prima versione hanno finito di sfasciare G8 e ci metteva ore a caricare. Per fortuna io non ho aggiornato e i miei G8 caricano in quattro secondi senza plugin aggiuntivi.
Sono sicuro che hanno imparato la lezione alla DAZ3D e G9 sarà lentissimo a caricare per poter vendere un plugin per accelerare il processo. E come prima basterà non aggiornare per evitare il problema.

I'm having an issue with the tranfer vertex groups feature in the advanced panel.  Using blender 4.0 and diffeomorphic 1.7.2.1930.  Used to be when i imported HD and base characters, i could transfer vertes groups to the HD from the base with this feature after applying a multires modifier to the HD mesh.  now i get a missing attribute error.

AttributeError: 'DAZ_OT_TransferVertexGroups' object has no attribute 'transfermethod'

GRFK DSGN Unlimited said:

Well this might explain why MadSkills Studio up and disappeared. Tried to go to their site over the weekend and it's down. Figured maintenance or an upgrade might be in progress and then I saw the newsletter about Face Transfer 2. Similar product. So bye-bye MSS!

I inquired and was told that there were server issues and that it should be back in a week or so.

Richard Haseltine said:

Charlie Judge said:

Face Transfer 2 definitely appears to be a product devleoped by DAZ3D but the artist is not listed as 'DAZ Original' . This prevents using the DAZ+ coupon for DOs; thereby once again limiting the usefulness of the DAZ+ coupon.  Just another reason to consider not renewing my DAZ+ membership.

It may be that there are contractural requirements, if this is not purely in-house Daz development, which mean it has to be trated separately.

Well, punch card discounts are applying; so at least some discounts must be permitted. 

Richard Haseltine said:

Charlie Judge said:

Face Transfer 2 definitely appears to be a product devleoped by DAZ3D but the artist is not listed as 'DAZ Original' . This prevents using the DAZ+ coupon for DOs; thereby once again limiting the usefulness of the DAZ+ coupon.  Just another reason to consider not renewing my DAZ+ membership.

It may be that there are contractural requirements, if this is not purely in-house Daz development, which mean it has to be trated separately.

I seem to recall that being the case with Decimator though that has either changed recently or it's an oversight that it's discounted in the current sale.

i also got face transfer 2, do i need to get face transfer 1 first? i seen the new video they have for face transfer 2 and in the pluggin area in the video it shows face transfer 2 but my daz studio doesnt have this ? in the video they are using DAZ studio 4.22 pro but it also say private build, im using 4.22 pro also, maybe its only in the private build and we have to wait for a update?

Well this might explain why MadSkills Studio up and disappeared. Tried to go to their site over the weekend and it's down. Figured maintenance or an upgrade might be in progress and then I saw the newsletter about Face Transfer 2. Similar product. So bye-bye MSS!

That's an interesting thread. Thanks to all who commented! I'm not gonna try any prediction about whether AI will kill the 3D star but seeing Face Transfer 2 in store pushed me to post where I stand on this.

AI has huge practical potential and some of the work created with it is fantastic even while it still gives 7-legged cats and clawed piglets... But I can't seem to get over this feeling of unfairness - betrayal - about the foundations and the mindset behind this technology. Maybe I'm old-school, but for me fairness, consent, privacy and transparency are important. AI generators exist because they stole the hard work of real human workers who never envisioned that their work could be used that way, many of whom are going to get the sucker's payoff: be tossed off their social/professional position by these algorithms that make the people who stole their work rich (and who get away with the theft unless the courts eventually decide otherwise - if someone has enough money and mental support to hold such lawsuit until a formal ruling) or start using this technology like everyone else to stay in the game. How not to be angry seeing how the companies behind commercial AI used "data laundering" to make their software? It's clear that they did this because they were fully aware that it was immoral and likely illegal. Their shielding behind universities and NGOs funded by them to evade responsibility and their hurry to release this technology commercially before legal reactions and regulation can catch up in a ways that would be fair _and_ realistically enforceable could feature in the dictionary under the definition «bad faith».
About data laundering: https://waxy.org/2022/09/ai-data-laundering-how-academic-and-nonprofit-researchers-shield-tech-companies-from-accountability/

Even if I'm tempted to jump in the IA bandwagon, for now the breach of trust is too big for me not to be wary about the companies trying to push this technology. Most companies who develop it seem to do everything they can not to be accountable to the meager legal protection that exists for us lambda citizens to be able to control what we allow and what we don't about the product of our labor and our personal information. How are they going to use whatever data I feed them to use their wonderful tools? Do these pieces of software collect, share information about me and my software use that I'm not aware of? Who do they share what I do know they use with? What rights do I really own on the work I produce that uses the output of their softare?

I like how this article sums up where we're at and asks: "How can artists and AI companies make peace?"
https://www.theverge.com/23444685/generative-ai-copyright-infringement-legal-fair-use-training-data

I hope that the courts will rule against the rogues who commercialized AI text-to-prompt image generators. And I wish to see AI-using companies that tell me what data sets their algorithms were trained on. Companies that retributed the people whose work the algorithms were trained on - or at least who got their informed consent to use it the way they do. Shutterstock and Adobe for example did a step in that direction by training their AI models on content they licensed from their stock image database and setting up agreements with the content providers, but it wasn't a stellar process and it's unclear to me whether the images that people create or modify when they use their software are also used to train their AI in return. If they're uploaded/stocked/shared somewhere else than for the strict purpose of the user in the process. Or how the personal profile of the users is collected/shared as well on information that indicates what subjects they create images about, at what time of day, etc., all things that give clues about someone's personality, lifestyle, interests, mental state; things that can be crossed with other personal data in aggregators and are highly valuable for the companies who want to make money from targeted ads.

I also wish to see companies that tell me in a no-nonsense language, in a place that's easy to find and that doesn't require me to decipher pages and pages of marketing talk or legalese, what cases/conditions allow me to create content using their AI-powered tools that I retain full and exclusive rights about... Or what rights I give up on and grant them in the process of using their services. If I understand correctly for now unless you're a coder and/or own the rights on enough material to feed your own algorithm to learn exclusively with it, it's a sea of uncertainty, with the risk being smaller the greater your input into the final work and the least it risks to cause harm to someone else.

Utopic? 

AlmightyQUEST said:

I just want to take a moment to appeciate releasing Face Transfer 2 and Faceless on the same day.

OMG, thank you for the laugh!  Shockingly that coincidence hadn't struck me, even as I threw both into my cart this morning. Hahaha

Alessandro Mastronardi said:

Astraffel said:

I just bought this great little one (along with the base lion, dforce add-on, smilodon, and ensary's wild poses). I may be missing something obvious, yet I'm seeing many of the shaping and pose control morphs are warped or not doing anything. For example: the claws do not protract at all and the lower jaw morph tears the sides of the mouth away from a stationary jaw. Is this expected to happen?

If it's of note, I've only tried this in Daz Studio 4.22 and have no idea if this is a new thing or has always been this way.

The product page does list these morphs as included features, yet the index file list doesn't and my data folders only have them in the base.

Strangely, the eyes actually seem to close better than for the base lion and smilodon shapes which only close 2/3 of the way at 100%.

I'm curious to know if I'm missing some obvious method or if this is an error somewhere or even if this is just how it is meant to (not) function. I love how the little big cat looks, yet I may need to rethink using it as a main character. I was really excited to use those claw morphs for climbing animations.

Thanks for any help!

Hello, I'm not sure why it doesn't work anymore, I swear it did when I released it. Anyway the fix it's quite easy: if you go to Pose Controls and extend the claws, then see the screen attached: check the LionCubJCM_Off slider, set it somewhere between 0 and 60% and you can control how much the claws extend.

Yes! That's got it working now! Thank you for the swift response!

If it's useful info for anyone else, I couldn't find LionCubJCM_Off at first. To reveal it, press the stacked line symbol in the corner of the parameters window, go to "Preferences" and turn on "Show Hidden Properties" to display those greyed out settings in the Currently Used tab.

Once I've got the right amount dialed in, I think I'll lock that setting on my figure subsets if it doesn't break anything else to have always on. It doesn't seem to affect other morphs like the snarls which have the opposite problem of 100% being way too much. Adjusting the limits of the parameter settings to somewhere between 33%-50% seems to keep the morphs from going too far.

I do have a serial number, but neither the release or beta versions of DS recognize it. I guess we're waiting for a DS update that includes face transfer 2, instead of (or as well as) face transfer 1.