This is why it is worth buyer the starter bundles that are in the freebies now, even if you own everything inside. At least that way they will not longer show up as not purchased.

Exactly but as they know what pro bundles you have they should offer the matching starter bundles free to you anyway.

Something like that is what they did for some of the really old bundles, like some of the Victoria 4 ones. They nested bundles into bundles, and at some point it simply became very hard to figure out what was actually in that top level bundle. Was even worse when bundle X contained bundles Y and Z, and some products were part of both bundle Y and bundle Z. Then it looked like you'd buy a ton of stuff, but it was actually just bundle Z + the two or three items that were in bundle Y but not in bundle Z. I still don't have the whole collection of Victoria 4 bundles, but do have most of the contents from other bundles anyway.

a fresh gene pool is always welcome

But it's not a gene pool if it is standalone.

i am also puzzled with the decision of creating a stand alone figure. I can see showing off your talents in creating it, but it makes no sense financially in this market.

well it could when it comes to game licence pricing for example 

I don't know, a one off like Janna might make even less sense for gaming models. Daz Genesis has a pipeline of sorts for it, and so somebody could buy several Genesis models and use that same pipeline for them all. But Janna is standalone, and would require altering that method, and most probably one would not wish to devote their time to do that for just a single model. It might make more sense if you plan on ditching the rigging from the start, but then that would seem to defeat the purpose of buying a model from Daz in the first place. 

I would have bought Janna, but I was quite saddened that she is standalone. Its not just about fitting clothing or hair. I like messing around with textures and things. There are no other textures for Janna's UV, so I can't just swap say Bluejaunte's girls skins on her or other characters. I can customize the textures, but that's about it. I can't even convert them like I could from Genesis 2 or Victoria 4. And if I wanted to alter her shape, I'd have to go to Hexagon or Blender to do it. I couldn't just use a morph from something else.

https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-2-base

I 'v buy a few dresses - no one I can use! I read name of the model Victoria 4, but how to buy it. No one word about it in the site)))!

Awesome render @Hylas! Really beautiful!

But I wonder (and not for the first time) why the G8M Head Morphs (https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-8-male-head-morphs) and G8M Body Morphs (https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-8-male-body-morphs) are listed under No-Count items? Or do you mean the Body and Head morphs that come with the Genesis 8 Male base figure? (The (paid) Genesis 8 Male Body Morphs are required by the Rex for Genesis 8 Male character...)

Thanks!

As I understand it, the basic morph packs are No Counts... when I use further morph packs (such as SWOLE or 200 Plus) I list them under purchased.

3. Base figures (All Gen 2,3,4, and Genesis 1,2,3) as well as their general morphs packs (Morphs++ and similar) do not count as a purchased item or a freebie and may be used as needed

The Victoria 4.2 and Michael 4 Shapes++ (Head and Body Morphs++) have been freebies occasionally, as well as the Victoria 4.2 and Michael 4 Creature Creator Morphs but I'm not sure whether they (the C.C.M.) fall under 'similar'. I also own the Genesis Evolution: Head Morphs and the Genesis Evolution: Body Morphs but they came with the Michael 5 Pro Suite so they are purchased. What I am saying is that none of the Head or Body Morph packages for Genesis, Genesis 2, Genesis 3 and Genesis 8 has ever been a freebie and therefor I think it's very strange that they do not count as purchased. @Saphirewild, can you please clarify on this?

V4 is Victoria 4, which was released before Genesis. Earlier figures would be for example Victoria and Michael 1, 2 or 3, Aiko and Hiro 3, the millennium kids... 

And no, they're not the only products fir which the content is provided in poser format. 

Gallery link

 

Title: The Dance

DAZ Studio, Adobe Photoshop
Version before postwork attached below:

 

Freebies:

1) Dryad by Aboran Tourist Council: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/v4-dryad-conforming-figure-forposer/75975

2) Tree by Design Anvil: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/379371/da-super-morphing-tree-2020-cherry-blossom-and-oak-tree/p1

3) HDRI by valzheimer: https://gumroad.com/l/DXEPj

4) Flower by printable_models: https://free3d.com/3d-model/anemone-flower-v1--764792.html

5) Flower by dacosta: https://free3d.com/3d-model/flower-25-99404.html

6) Flower by dacosta: https://free3d.com/3d-model/plant-04-58791.html

7) Hair by April's Vanity: http://shop.aprilsvanity.com/free-items/ciri-hair.html

8) Morph by bu_es: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/saud-for-g3m-g8m/78849

9) Hair Texture from Mane Concern: Allessa (DAZ Bi-Weekly Freebie)

10) Outfit from Lion War Bundle (DAZ Bi-Weekly Freebie)

11) Shrub by Tyro Smith: https://free3d.com/3d-model/bush-84314.html

12) Shrub by Yughues aka Nobiax: https://www.sharecg.com/v/76031/related/5/3D-Model/Free-Hedges

13) Boulder by 3-d-c: https://sharecg.com/v/46789/gallery/11/Poser/Morphable-Boulder

14) Ground Texture by StruffelProductions (Lennart Demes): https://cc0textures.com/view?tex=Ground37

 

Purchased:
1) Rex for G8M
2) Horns from Primordial Barbarian
3) Atmocam 2
4) Flutter of Butterflies

 

No Count Items:
- G8M Head Morphs
- G8M Body Morphs
- Victoria 4.2
- Monochromatic Shader (2018 XMas Freebie)
- Sakura Blossom (2019 XMas Freebie)

[ETA 18.FEB: added links to my No Counts to avoid any confusion.]

Not a direct answer to your question, but you can use V4 skins on G8F with this product: https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-8-victoria-4

Yeah, this is one of the most confusing things you'll find when you start using Daz Studio, you need to buy/aquire an adult Pro Bundle i.e. Victoria 7/8 Pro or Michael 7/8 Pro for whatever generation you want anatomical elements for. Because this site is 'Family Friendly' it isn't explained anywhere even though most of the promo images in the shop show a lot of skin but that's a different rant entirely. Note that alternative 3rd party 'anatomical elements' are available at another place.

Best Wishes
Steve.

Sorry to go off topic a little.

Is a Victoria 4 to G8F Character Converter script still on the cards?

:)

 

Yes, it is.  It has turned out to be tougher than I hoped to go back to even Genesis 2 though so it is delayed.

Sorry to go off topic a little.

Is a Victoria 4 to G8F Character Converter script still on the cards?

:)

 

why ddoes it have to be official? There are so many knowledgable users here, it would be a nice addiiton for help. As far as developers, DAZ staff, those from old times know that most of them used to particiapte in the forums. All the time. I remember the AOL forums where we used to talk directly to developers of Bryce, Ray Dream, etc ... then Poser forums started, and they were all there. That's where the discussions on Poser and Zygote took place, then the creation of Victoria etc ..and into DAZ.... then DAZ started its own forums. 
So if someone wants a DAZ forum on Discord, why doesn;t someone start one? 

On every game discord I belong to there are users sharing items they shouldn't be. A daz related unofficial discord would be no different.

why ddoes it have to be official? There are so many knowledgable users here, it would be a nice addiiton for help. As far as developers, DAZ staff, those from old times know that most of them used to particiapte in the forums. All the time. I remember the AOL forums where we used to talk directly to developers of Bryce, Ray Dream, etc ... then Poser forums started, and they were all there. That's where the discussions on Poser and Zygote took place, then the creation of Victoria etc ..and into DAZ.... then DAZ started its own forums. 
So if someone wants a DAZ forum on Discord, why doesn;t someone start one? 

Old thread, but...

I've been testing this product vs. the Victoria 8 version, and it doesn't seem like the Collar Fwd / Back morph is doing anything.

The first is the Vicky 8 version, the second is the general G8.

Also, when I move the master controller, nothing happens in that area when I'm using the G8 slider, but does for the Vicky version.

 

 

 

 

could you use this https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-8-victoria-4 to at least use the most likely skin and then try to shape her face with morphs to match?

I think the character is this one:

https://www.daz3d.com/marion-for-victoria-8

I also really like that facial expression. I can feel her fatigue.

Speaking of which, perhaps an expression add-on to go with the pose set as one of your next projects

 

The G3F biometric expression products are super awesome and I would love to see G8 versions! But everything Those Things does is great and I buy them upon release.

Thank you! Wow, feedback like this is so amazing. I can't thank you enough. Just makes me want to work even harder. 
I have received the request for biometric expressions for G8 so many times. Unfortunately, on the G8 figure, it won't work (to my--admittedly high--standards) as a universal. It can only work as a figure specific product, like "Biometric Expressions for Victoria 8", which narrows the audience for the product tremendously. I also tried to make Biometric Expressions work for G8 Male universally, and ran into similar problems. 

That said, I have been fleshing out an expression product that is quite different from the norm. It's only in the planning stages atm, but I think it could be something really great, if it works like I'm thinking...

Try delete 4 files ( ik) under Hip .

That seems to work. Wouldn't happen to know what file contains that info? -------------------- For those that need a bit clearer response. Scene tab>Menu button(or right click on tab)>Show>Show IK Chains. Click to unhide the files, yellow checkmark. Delete the four items that appear, IK-Victoria 4.2:leftleg, rightleg, leftarm, rightarm. They are in the base node, not the hip. These appear to be the only ik chains in the whole figure. I'll pop back in if i get any resultant errors.

This is just weird. When using the +/- on parameter dials on the base node, V4's arms and legs rotate/bend, depending on which dial, and direction, i click. Click the + on yrotate, left arm twists and bends. Click the -, right arm bends and rotates. Doing the same on the Xrotate, ad her legs do the same thing. Zrotate bends and twists all four limbs. This does not happen with the Gizmo, slider, or manual entry. It's also not present in 4.10. Any ideas or should i just submit a bug report?

Pixolygon said:

Without having dug through this entire thread, will NGS work on a G8 figure that's using a V4 texture via V4 for G8F by Cayman?

Very late reply, but the trick is to run the scripts when you have the v4 textures set up on a victoria 4, then save it as a preset and then bring that preset over to G8F, so you don't become entangled with the new material zones.