I think the Wiki pages are wrong to say that Millenium Man Michael released at the same time as Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman in Feb 1999. That's been 21 years ago but I had just bought a Poser at a local book store in 1999 and I seem to remember Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman being sold for a shocking $99.95, which I wouldn't pay for and so used the Poser figures, and as the link you gave shows, Michael 1 aka the Millenium Man being sold for $39.95, which was still expensive but I did buy as $39.95 (eventually) was much more affordable, but he wasn't available until much later in terms of digital product lifecycle. So I think it was Victoria released in February 1999 as it coincided only maybe a month after my purchase of Poser 4 for a whopping 600 Swiss Francs (it may of been and probably was Poser 4 Pro I bought).  So Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman would of cost about 200 Swiss Francs! Wow, that's a lot of cash! Michael 1 aka Millenium Man, I remember and I thought it odd that Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman didn't have a male counterpart and seem to remember it releasing in January 1, 2000 just like your link says but I waited a while because at $39.95 I thought still expensive too but not crazy expensive like Victoria 1 was. 

Sooo, today's sale may be the closest we get to Michael 8's birthday this year (Yay!).  Michael 8 was released on August 22nd, 2017.  Glad to see Michael getting a nod of sorts today, even if it's about a month ahead of M8's BDay..

As for the other Michaels...

These are the 'officially acknowledged' dates taken from the documentation pages

Michael 1 aka Millenium Man: January 1st 2000 according to the docs page... The Wiki page notes that Victoria, possibly along with Michael (by then Zygote) was released around February of 1999.  Note that Daz Productions bacame it's own company around April 2nd of 2001, according to this archived press release:

https://web.archive.org/web/20030212201415/http://www.daz3d.com/pages/dp/press/press_releases/daz-zygote split.html

Michael 2 is a bit of a mystery.  There's currently no page for him in the docs pages index, and a number of pages in the 0001-9999 series are missing.  The M2 texture maps for M1 were released on October 25th, 2001.  I did come across this press release on webarchive that is dated January 7th, 2002:

https://web.archive.org/web/20021215112631/http://www.daz3d.com/pages/dp/press/press_releases/michael2.0.html

Michael 3.0 Base: September 10th, 2003

Michael 4 Base: October 20th, 2010

Michael 5: April 24th, 2012

Michael 6:  November 19th, 2013

Michael 7: November 17th, 2015

Michael 8: August 22nd, 2017.

I did this render a while back, which includes Michaels 4-8 and the corresponding Victorias...

I should give a nod to the Michael Appreciation Association:

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/68371/michael-and-friends-appreciation-association-lots-of-images-please/p1

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/234631/michael-and-friends-appreciation-association-images-pt-2/p1

Quick nod to this thread, for those that might be curious about such things:

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/24257/daz-3d-human-figures-a-history/p1

So as to when we should give Michael an 'official' nod as far as dates, that's a good question... I'm just happy that he was given a nod again today!  Thanks for the purple banner coupon Daz! (for those of us that previously purchased the associated Michaels).

YAY MICHAEL!

@AprilYSH you are too modest!  I've been buying your wonderful hairs right back to Victoria 3 (remember Sylphiad Hair? one of my all-time favs!), so you have vast experience of designing and making hair models, which are the "Gold Standard".

Soooooooo was I not invited to the party or did Vicky's birthday go by without celebration this year lol?

 

I don't know from experience, but I understood from chat here in the forums that Vicky's birthday has historically been made a banner/event and that her G8 version was "born" on 15th June 2017.  Surely 3 isn't too old for a birthday party! 

We are in July, I think there was something in June.

Yeah I know, 12th July, so we're nearly a month off her "birthday" now. I remember there was "All the Vicky's for FREE" in March or April, but no event in June unless I totally spaced and missed it ?

They did offer both the Michael and Victoria 7 Pro Bundles for $1,99 per piece for a day for PC-members, at June 1st......

 

I expect that the two people who didn't already own them took advantage of the offer.

Jack posted at the beginning of the June PC+ sale that one of the reasons for having the sale was because a lot of new people had recently joined the platinium club. As such I suspect a lot of these did not own M7 and V7 pros, as most new users will likely invest in Genesis 8. Therefore I imagine there was a lot more than 2 that did not have those bundles.

Just because new faces in the forums are quite rare, doesn't mean there aren't new buyers.

...I rarely purchase Pro bundles these days since a goo portion of the additional content is fantasy oriented, other characters, & such.  1.99$ however was too good to pass up.

Soooooooo was I not invited to the party or did Vicky's birthday go by without celebration this year lol?

 

I don't know from experience, but I understood from chat here in the forums that Vicky's birthday has historically been made a banner/event and that her G8 version was "born" on 15th June 2017.  Surely 3 isn't too old for a birthday party! 

We are in July, I think there was something in June.

Yeah I know, 12th July, so we're nearly a month off her "birthday" now. I remember there was "All the Vicky's for FREE" in March or April, but no event in June unless I totally spaced and missed it ?

They did offer both the Michael and Victoria 7 Pro Bundles for $1,99 per piece for a day for PC-members, at June 1st......

 

I expect that the two people who didn't already own them took advantage of the offer.

One of these would be me. While i did already owned v7, it was only the character i grabbed during MM extension promo.

I guess I'm the other one. I had V7 and M7, but not their bundles.

Soooooooo was I not invited to the party or did Vicky's birthday go by without celebration this year lol?

 

I don't know from experience, but I understood from chat here in the forums that Vicky's birthday has historically been made a banner/event and that her G8 version was "born" on 15th June 2017.  Surely 3 isn't too old for a birthday party! 

We are in July, I think there was something in June.

Yeah I know, 12th July, so we're nearly a month off her "birthday" now. I remember there was "All the Vicky's for FREE" in March or April, but no event in June unless I totally spaced and missed it ?

They did offer both the Michael and Victoria 7 Pro Bundles for $1,99 per piece for a day for PC-members, at June 1st......

 

I expect that the two people who didn't already own them took advantage of the offer.

One of these would be me. While i did already owned v7, it was only the character i grabbed during MM extension promo.

Every day is Victoria's birthday here. 

Soooooooo was I not invited to the party or did Vicky's birthday go by without celebration this year lol?

 

I don't know from experience, but I understood from chat here in the forums that Vicky's birthday has historically been made a banner/event and that her G8 version was "born" on 15th June 2017.  Surely 3 isn't too old for a birthday party! 

We are in July, I think there was something in June.

Yeah I know, 12th July, so we're nearly a month off her "birthday" now. I remember there was "All the Vicky's for FREE" in March or April, but no event in June unless I totally spaced and missed it ?

They did offer both the Michael and Victoria 7 Pro Bundles for $1,99 per piece for a day for PC-members, at June 1st......

 

I expect that the two people who didn't already own them took advantage of the offer.

Jack posted at the beginning of the June PC+ sale that one of the reasons for having the sale was because a lot of new people had recently joined the platinium club. As such I suspect a lot of these did not own M7 and V7 pros, as most new users will likely invest in Genesis 8. Therefore I imagine there was a lot more than 2 that did not have those bundles.

Just because new faces in the forums are quite rare, doesn't mean there aren't new buyers.

Soooooooo was I not invited to the party or did Vicky's birthday go by without celebration this year lol?

 

I don't know from experience, but I understood from chat here in the forums that Vicky's birthday has historically been made a banner/event and that her G8 version was "born" on 15th June 2017.  Surely 3 isn't too old for a birthday party! 

We are in July, I think there was something in June.

Yeah I know, 12th July, so we're nearly a month off her "birthday" now. I remember there was "All the Vicky's for FREE" in March or April, but no event in June unless I totally spaced and missed it ?

They did offer both the Michael and Victoria 7 Pro Bundles for $1,99 per piece for a day for PC-members, at June 1st......

 

I expect that the two people who didn't already own them took advantage of the offer.

Hmm... July 12, 2008. Victoria 3. 0 base, head and body morphs and deformers, and a Daz Studio registration fee for Daz 2.3.3.146.

Soooooooo was I not invited to the party or did Vicky's birthday go by without celebration this year lol?

 

I don't know from experience, but I understood from chat here in the forums that Vicky's birthday has historically been made a banner/event and that her G8 version was "born" on 15th June 2017.  Surely 3 isn't too old for a birthday party! 

We are in July, I think there was something in June.

Yeah I know, 12th July, so we're nearly a month off her "birthday" now. I remember there was "All the Vicky's for FREE" in March or April, but no event in June unless I totally spaced and missed it ?

They did offer both the Michael and Victoria 7 Pro Bundles for $1,99 per piece for a day for PC-members, at June 1st......

Soooooooo was I not invited to the party or did Vicky's birthday go by without celebration this year lol?

I don't know from experience, but I understood from chat here in the forums that Vicky's birthday has historically been made a banner/event and that her G8 version was "born" on 15th June 2017.  Surely 3 isn't too old for a birthday party! 

Use Generation 4 textures on Genesis 8 with these products:

https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-8-michael-4

https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-8-victoria-4

There are a number of products that convert the textures to IRAY, I'm using this one:

https://www.daz3d.com/iray-converter-for-generation-4

I'm getting close to the finish line... been working on this upcoming product for over 16 weeks now and have scraped a handful of items that just didn't live up to my expectations. Scraped items include two bras, a different choker, a pleated skirt with suspenders, mesh style shirt, asian style top, and previous versions of the stockings and pantyhose. The new stockings are called Universal stockings because, by design, you can get many different looks such as knee highs, fishnets, wide bands, etc and all included through various material expansions that will be available with release. The stockings material library will feature over 70 material options. You can expect close to that many for the other main clothing items as well. Many G8F micropressure HD morphs are and the newly official Mystique breasts, with two styles supported and unsupported. Also every clothing item has been indiviidually tailored to directly support the following chracters- Aiko 8, Aubrey 8, Bridgett 8, Charlotte 8, Eva 8, Jenni 8, Meo Lin 8, Monique 8, Sahira 8, Stephanie 8, Victoria 8, and Bodybuilding Details. The following is a complete list of items included:
1. Veil
2. Head Jewelry (earringsx4, eyebrow piercings x4, nose ring, lip piercings x3) 
3. Neck Frill/Collar
4. Corset Choker (laces up in back)
5. Blazer
6. Lace Bra
7. Lace Gloves
8. Strappy Garter Underwear
9. Pantyhose (not yet teased)
10. Universal Stockings
11. Exotic Heels
I have yet to submit this to Daz so anything can change. I still have at least 1 more week of work in finishing up some morphs and materials. Which reminds me to bring up that this product comes with a lot of clothing morphs - Adjustments, Fitting, Undressing, and Material Specific.

The base outfit will come with a handful of starter materials but basics: Black, Taupe, White, Red, Blue, Pink. Additional styles and colors will be available through the texture expansions. There's  a lot of styles and customization options! For example: Fishnets with large holes include HD pressure morphs where the skin is being pressed down by the individual netting lines. Here's some early renders of the basic mats. I will tease more once Daz has accepted my submission. In the meantime, I will be teasing more promo art on my artstation account.

You need this to use M4 textures on G8M: https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-8-michael-4 (You'll need to resave the material presets in .duf format first)

There's no direct tool to convert morphs from M4 to G8M, but you can use GenX2 and its add-ons to convert them from M4 to G3M, and then Character converter or Xtransfer to go from G3M to G8M.

Does anyone sell a M4 character that has been converted to Genesis 8?

I am wondering if buyng the converter is best for something that I might only need to do once.

I am sorry but I am a bit confused. Can the M4 textures be converted to Genesis 8?

In the genX products I don't see any mention of gen4?

In reply to the bit I've highlighted in red: From the Genesis Generation X2 product page:

Genesis Generation X2 (short GenX2 or just GenX) transfers morphs from legacy Poser figures to Genesis figures and between different versions of Genesis.

...[snip]...

The GenX2 plugin includes support for the generation 4 Poser figures (Victoria 4, Michael 4, and Kids 4) as well as for Genesis (version 1). Further figures are supported by add-ons sold separately. To transfer morphs from or to Genesis 2, the GenX2 AddOn for Genesis 2 is required.

So yes, it does natively transfer gen4 characters and/or individual morphs to Genesis "1". To get to Genesis 3 you would need that Genesis 2 AddOn and the Genesis 3 AddOn.

I bought the product. Its great. There's two ways of setting it up.

Basic Setup: Hamster includes a new base genesis 8 female. You dial in the character. Add the breast attachments. Pose the character and run the sim. You can check on the gallery. I put up two demo images using Lyoness' new model Karsyn. Its good test on Karsyn, because the model has larger breasts but are also droopy breasts as opposed firm breats. So it gives dForce more to move to so to speak.

Advanced Setup: This is where I'm having trouble. I'm trying with adding a weight map. For example, I load Victoria 8 (non HD). I add a dynamic dforce to her. I add the dForce weight map node. But going to tools settings, the Add Map button is greyed out. I can't add map.

Assuming I could add a map then I'd add Hamster's Base G8F model to the scen and copy and paste the weight maps from Hamsters G8F to Victoria's 8 Weight Map Node. Then add breast attachment to Victoria 8. Lastly add any modifers, pose Victoria and run the sim.

Hamster includes documentation on how to use it.

In my opinion, this product could replace all the squish and breast control dial ins. Its that good of product. If I could only figure out why I can't add a weight map, I could make greater progress. Anyone could help me with that I'd appreciate it.

Wow, there is a user manual, you have to dig to find it though. Its placed in a folder called of all things "Usermanual" whereas most merchants place it in the general folder with their name or sometimes in the documentation.

I bought the product. Its great. There's two ways of setting it up.

Basic Setup: Hamster includes a new base genesis 8 female. You dial in the character. Add the breast attachments. Pose the character and run the sim. You can check on the gallery. I put up two demo images using Lyoness' new model Karsyn. Its good test on Karsyn, because the model has larger breasts but are also droopy breasts as opposed firm breats. So it gives dForce more to move to so to speak.

Advanced Setup: This is where I'm having trouble. I'm trying with adding a weight map. For example, I load Victoria 8 (non HD). I add a dynamic dforce to her. I add the dForce weight map node. But going to tools settings, the Add Map button is greyed out. I can't add map.

Assuming I could add a map then I'd add Hamster's Base G8F model to the scen and copy and paste the weight maps from Hamsters G8F to Victoria's 8 Weight Map Node. Then add breast attachment to Victoria 8. Lastly add any modifers, pose Victoria and run the sim.

Hamster includes documentation on how to use it.

In my opinion, this product could replace all the squish and breast control dial ins. Its that good of product. If I could only figure out why I can't add a weight map, I could make greater progress. Anyone could help me with that I'd appreciate it.

I'm still on DAZ 4.8 on my old pc (will update after i upgrade computer, i think), so i use G3 and G8 (G8 a bit limited, but for my current needs still enough), so... hopefully by the time new generatio comes out, i'll be up to date :D

Meanwhile, curious to see what else DAZ work on, stuff like dforce, hair system, etc etc

Well Aiko 3 is still available as are Victoria 4 and other old products; that suggests that Genesis 8 wll still be available for those who want to use it for a long time.

 

Some of old products disappeared now though in ~recent years, i was not quick enough to get them.

Given how many of the actual PAs have disappeared over the years, that's hardly surprising.  There number of PAs who worked on the first three generations of DAZ figures who are still actively selling is getting to be a pretty small list.  My general attitude these days is that if something I want is in the store for more than two years and then disappears before I can buy it, that's my fault, not the store or PA's.

Gallery link

Another person posing prettily while staring into the middle distance. Apparently that's all I have the energy for these days :)

I know I've used Soraya's skin several times in the past but this might actually be my first time rendering her. If so it was high time... I think she's very pretty.

Picked up Dreamlight's LA Pool for a good price. I kinda assumed speed and convenience were the main selling points of that product but it took me longer than expected to set up this simple scene. The lighting just didn't quite seem right and I ended up adding several additional lights. I'm also not entirely sure what that floor is supposed to be made of; I turned up its glossy roughness because it was rather shiny out of the box. I'm not going to return the product, but I'm not sure it entirely met my expectations. Maybe I have to spend a little more time with it.

Freebies:
Dress by Adam Thwaites: https://www.most-digital-creations.com/g8f_classy_dress_2.php
Pose by Zeddicuss: Pose by Zeddicuss: https://www.zed3d.com/shop/pinup-pose-11-20-compiled-g3f/
Pose Converter by Agent Unawares: https://www.deviantart.com/agentunawares/art/G3F-to-G8F-World-s-Greatest-Pose-Converter-709591348

I would just like to get some good Doctor morphs for G8 (especially Jody Whitaker).  I have enough G8 models that I could come up with a texture/skin somewhere.

 

 

That's what are used to say about Michael and Victoria 4 , and as you can see by scrolling through the thread from page one till now several people have come up with morphs for these characters depicting various doctors with the promise of sharing only to bugger off and never be heard from again. So good luck with that