I'm trying to do a new clean install of selected components on a Windows machine to test. I have a hard enough time keeping DIM from barfing all over the C: drive, but I decided to try DAZCentral and there is no option. The drop down says controlled by DIM, so I download and install it through the browser (I did not see a way to do that through DAZCentral). Could not successfully install Studio until I removed DAZCentral. Now content is hit or miss. I may try to install it through Studio itself.

DIM was bad enough, but Central is buggy and doesn't seem to need to exist. I just may have to uninstall everything and use RegEdit to get all the other parts gone and start again with only DIM.

Is DAZ Central using the same type of Manifest files for installed content as DIM? If, are they shared if you use both (if that's possible)?

In theory yes. I have both and installed and they share what is and isn't installed. At least during beta, now centrals wants me to update to use and i'm not inclined to test my luck again. While i had no issues (i don't use default paths, btw), lots of people shared horror stories with this. I prefer DIM in every aspect except visuals. But visuals can be deceiving. Also search is good in central, but i need that level of good inside DAZ, no in an outside app.

OK, thanks.  Yes, though I haven't tried DAZ Central I probably never will, DIM works great for me, and I write my own tools for whatever else I feel I need. 

Is DAZ Central using the same type of Manifest files for installed content as DIM? If, are they shared if you use both (if that's possible)?

In theory yes. I have both and installed and they share what is and isn't installed. At least during beta, now centrals wants me to update to use and i'm not inclined to test my luck again. While i had no issues (i don't use default paths, btw), lots of people shared horror stories with this. I prefer DIM in every aspect except visuals. But visuals can be deceiving. Also search is good in central, but i need that level of good inside DAZ, no in an outside app.

I really love DAZ Central, especially after struggling for many years with too many separate files after creating renders in DAZ Studio. I am willing to pay for a commercial plugin to DAZ Central that would enable me to have the ability for my renders to show up sorted showing round thumbnails, file name, figure, date, and file size exactly as how "My Assets" and "Plugins" presently function. Such a plugin (to me) would be worth paying up to $35 to have.

That sounds like what a folder where you keep them can do.

Hey.  

Please read this with an inner voice of mild concern.  Do not use inner sarcasm voice, or any derogatory tone, because this isn't a rant.  It's simply feedback, my impression, and a suggestion that would actually make this a favorable thing.     Onwards...

I was less than impressed with Daz Central.  The email that pointed me to it sounded promising.  I downloaded and installed it.  Okay.  No, not so okay.

One of the features is to have the tutorial videos available on the Dashboard in an easy to see location.  So I picked the first one, and was highly disappointed.  Here's the video it eventually landed me at on YouTube:  

For those who don't wish to click it, it's a 2016 tutorial showing an extremely outdated UI that looks nothing like today's UI.  In the comments that are years old, people were asking for an up to date tutorial please, and of course, now it's 2020 and at the time of this post, hasn't been updated in the least.  That killed all interest I've had in wanting to watch any other tutorials.  

Next disappointment was showing me my current product purchases, and I can open them in Daz Studio 4.12 with one click.  Tried it, it works.  However, I could do the same thing in two clicks.  I can click to open Daz, then click the 'new' tagged product within Daz itself, on the products pane that is already open when Daz loads.  So they saved me one click, and perhaps a few inches on the mouse wheel to scroll through products to find the 'new' tag, if I was tag hunting.  I know what I bought by name, actually, and I find it easily regardless.  Still just two clicks.  Is the cost of an entire program development really worth only one click?  

Now for a suggestion... why not actually put in a feature that isn't available in Daz Studio itself?  Like the ability to go to your saved files and delete a saved file and everything related to it in one click?  As of right now, you can't delete it.  You see, Daz is the only program I know where a save file isn't easy to get rid of.  I can load up a 20 year old program, click delete saved file/saved game/saved document/saved whatever, and it's gone, confirmation dialog or not.  I can load up a relatively new program and do the same thing.  Saved file/saved game/saved document/saved database/saved image/saved whatever, and it's gone.  No lingering thumbnails with error reporting hanging out anywhere.  

Except for Daz Studio.  

I looked it up once, a while back.  I have to delete the DUF, go into library whatever, find the related files, delete them, find another spot... yadda yadda yakity smackety and you know the rest, to delete just one old scene that I no longer use.  Because of this, I am highly reluctant to save any scene, because once it's there, I guess it's there forever, as I really don't have the time to become a coder to hunt down all the bits and pieces that Daz Studio will report as a prolem that's left over through a thumbnail connection that will never vanish otherwise.  

I just want to right click the saved file in the saved files area, and choose a delete option that doesn't exist as of today, and that be that and it's gone, thumbnail, DUF and any other bits of code connected to it gone as well.  Or have that doable on Daz Central.  If so, I'll reinstall the nearly useless thing and be happy for that feature all by itself. 

Thank you for your valuable time.  

Please note:  The email that was sent to me did not include a single word that this program was in beta.  I put the post above in the Product Suggestions forum, thinking it was a finished item development wise.  You may or may not understand how I got slightly jaded over the function issues I noted above.  If they had properly noted the status of the program, I may have been a touch less 'put off' from it.   

I basically object to the wording of that video and some of the wording in it.

The GPU isn't going to do a better job, only do it faster; the render will be equally good, bad or indifferent.

Not sure if this is the right ploace ot post this question (please let me know if not or move the thread).

I had to do a clean install of Daz becuse everything was going insane (lagging, couldn't find the products, randomly changed the render settings of my saved profile, etc...) so I decided to use the new DazCentral that, for some reason, kept saying I didn't hjave daz studio installed nor any of my products. Now here's what's important to know:

1. I have my daz 3d library on a different path/folder
2. I didin't want daz installed in the regular path (programs x86) but in programs only instead.

Sounds as if you were installing the 32 bit version on 64 bit Windows - use the 64 bit version instead, or at least as well.

3. I didn't want to loose my daz library assets and workplace so I copied both folders to the dektop before deleting everything.
4. Yes, I had to DELETE everything MANUALLY because there was NO uninstall ANYWHERE! I had hidden folders active and got rid of everything.

Uninstall would be in Install Manager for content isntalled through DIM, as long as nothing happened to its records (the Manifests folder).

Now... After installing daz central I tried installing daz (after changing the path in the little gear icon) and got the weirdest message saying someting about settings, download folders and dialogs (apologies for not rememring but it was yersterday and I didn't take a screenshot). I checked the path again and it had changed back to default so I reinstalled DC and decided to let it install whatever it wanted WHEREever it wanted - I figured I could just move the folders after.

So DC created a folder on my desktop called Applications/64bt that was basically the installation of daz studio and (also inside Applications) called Data/Daz3D/Install manager/Downloads. I moved both folders to my own programs path but for some unknown reason (and I really don't know how this keeps happening) the Data folder keeps going to C:/ - it's just there Applications/Data/Daz3D/Install manager/Downloads
I don't even know where to place it to be honest so should I leave it there? I'm a bit of a organization freak so  Ilike my things in their rightful place -.-'

Do you mean Application Data? That will have onyl settings files, no application or content will go there by default. Moving folders is of course going to break any uninstallers.

Anyway, I installed all my purchased content and then moved it all to my daz library folder (the one in another path) and replaced everything. I didn't delete the folder and replaced it with the new one because I have some third party content that was installed manually and didn't really have to do it all again.

After everything is installed and moved correctly I open Daz and get this message! (attachment) so I looked online as usual and found no answer to my predicament - since I do have PostSQL installed (attachment).

What security software are you running? If yous tart Daz Studio do you see a number of entries for postgresql in the background Preocesses list in Task Manager (you will need to turn on Show Details to see this)?

After that I saw that the daz help centerk, documentation, thingy said to go to DIM and reinstall PostSQL so I opened daz central to see if that was possible and what do I find?! According to it nothing is installed! absolutely nothing! I changed the paths, thinking it was trying to find the programs in unexisting folders and still nothing! I logged out and in again and nothing! Back to square one! (attachment)

So far Daz seems to be working and I'm even able to load in my characters without having to merge them (which is a step forward) but I have yet to try anything dforce related or actual posing and creating.
Does this PostSQL message and Daz Central being blind influence the studio's work?! If anyone knows how to just get things working and not having to google a problem evey 5 minutes I would really, really appreciate it!

PostgreSQL drives the Content Management System - no connection will break features (Smart Content, Products, Categories, the Presets tabs in property panes, as well as less obviousd things like AutoFit).

Thank you =) and sorry for the rambling (quarentine is getting to me -.-)

Given some of the above I suspect you have more profound issues than just Daz Central, though it is true that it seems to reset paths and get confused about what is isntalled for some users even without moving stuff around to break it. There is a thread here for Daz Central discussions https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/382131/daz-install-manager-dim-1-4-0-35-now-available-updated#latest

Is DAZ Central using the same type of Manifest files for installed content as DIM? If, are they shared if you use both (if that's possible)?

Since DazCentral is using the DIM engine I would assume so, but I haven't checked whether an item installed with DazCentral shows as installed in DIM.

OK, so you have both installed on the same system?

No, I don't have DazCentral installed anymore.

I noticed on my orders, there is this concerning line: * Requires latest version of DazCentral

Is it only a matter of time before we see products that can't be downloaded any other way? Can someone from Daz please clarify what their intention is with this being included?

That means the Daz Central links, I expect - it used to say the same for Install Manager when that was the default, even though manual and Connect were options.

Ah ok, phew. Thanks, puts my overreacting worrying mind at ease. 

I noticed on my orders, there is this concerning line: * Requires latest version of DazCentral

Is it only a matter of time before we see products that can't be downloaded any other way? Can someone from Daz please clarify what their intention is with this being included?

That means the Daz Central links, I expect - it used to say the same for Install Manager when that was the default, even though manual and Connect were options.

Is DAZ Central using the same type of Manifest files for installed content as DIM? If, are they shared if you use both (if that's possible)?

Since DazCentral is using the DIM engine I would assume so, but I haven't checked whether an item installed with DazCentral shows as installed in DIM.

OK, so you have both installed on the same system?

Not sure if this is the right ploace ot post this question (please let me know if not or move the thread).

I had to do a clean install of Daz becuse everything was going insane (lagging, couldn't find the products, randomly changed the render settings of my saved profile, etc...) so I decided to use the new DazCentral that, for some reason, kept saying I didn't hjave daz studio installed nor any of my products. Now here's what's important to know:

1. I have my daz 3d library on a different path/folder
2. I didin't want daz installed in the regular path (programs x86) but in programs only instead.
3. I didn't want to loose my daz library assets and workplace so I copied both folders to the dektop before deleting everything.
4. Yes, I had to DELETE everything MANUALLY because there was NO uninstall ANYWHERE! I had hidden folders active and got rid of everything.

Now... After installing daz central I tried installing daz (after changing the path in the little gear icon) and got the weirdest message saying someting about settings, download folders and dialogs (apologies for not rememring but it was yersterday and I didn't take a screenshot). I checked the path again and it had changed back to default so I reinstalled DC and decided to let it install whatever it wanted WHEREever it wanted - I figured I could just move the folders after.

So DC created a folder on my desktop called Applications/64bt that was basically the installation of daz studio and (also inside Applications) called Data/Daz3D/Install manager/Downloads. I moved both folders to my own programs path but for some unknown reason (and I really don't know how this keeps happening) the Data folder keeps going to C:/ - it's just there Applications/Data/Daz3D/Install manager/Downloads
I don't even know where to place it to be honest so should I leave it there? I'm a bit of a organization freak so  Ilike my things in their rightful place -.-'

Anyway, I installed all my purchased content and then moved it all to my daz library folder (the one in another path) and replaced everything. I didn't delete the folder and replaced it with the new one because I have some third party content that was installed manually and didn't really have to do it all again.

After everything is installed and moved correctly I open Daz and get this message! (attachment) so I looked online as usual and found no answer to my predicament - since I do have PostSQL installed (attachment).
After that I saw that the daz help centerk, documentation, thingy said to go to DIM and reinstall PostSQL so I opened daz central to see if that was possible and what do I find?! According to it nothing is installed! absolutely nothing! I changed the paths, thinking it was trying to find the programs in unexisting folders and still nothing! I logged out and in again and nothing! Back to square one! (attachment)

So far Daz seems to be working and I'm even able to load in my characters without having to merge them (which is a step forward) but I have yet to try anything dforce related or actual posing and creating.
Does this PostSQL message and Daz Central being blind influence the studio's work?! If anyone knows how to just get things working and not having to google a problem evey 5 minutes I would really, really appreciate it!

Thank you =) and sorry for the rambling (quarentine is getting to me -.-)

Is DAZ Central using the same type of Manifest files for installed content as DIM? If, are they shared if you use both (if that's possible)?

Since DazCentral is using the DIM engine I would assume so, but I haven't checked whether an item installed with DazCentral shows as installed in DIM.

just posting that I am salty that the download button for DIM is gone after making a purchase 

not saying anything about DAZ central 

NOT INTERESTED 

I installed my content through DIM and Daz Central.

Is DAZ Central using the same type of Manifest files for installed content as DIM? If, are they shared if you use both (if that's possible)?

Oh, OK.  BUT will DAZ Central give me more options than DIM or are they about the same?  I read that both can't be used at the same time so a little hesitant to install the beta right now.  

DazCentral will always have a more focused and limited feature set than DIM.

 

They can both be used at the same time if your paths in DIM are simple (DazCentral only works with simple paths). If you change your paths in DazCentral it will overwrite all of the paths in DIM and will not likely set them to things that will keep your existing setup and configuration going.

Can you speak to the decision to make the one-click 'Download & Install' functionality for only items in an order only for Daz Central users? Both the my Orders page and the page that appears after making a purchase both have 'Download & Install' buttons that used to work with DIM (to install all products at once) but are now only for Daz Central.

I can't give the official answer, but I would think that having a choice of things to click (DIM and Daz Central) would immedaitely introduce a new layer of complexity and confusion for new users.

Je voudrais installer daz studio sur un autre disque dur car il a plus de capacité sauf que Daz Central install systematiquement le logciel sur le C: (disque systeme) .

Comment faire pour l'installer directement sur le D: ?

 

Merci pour vos réponses.

Bonsoir cévenol,

Sur Daz Central, en haut à droite, il y a une icône qui ressemble à une roue crantée : c'est là qu'il faut spécifier où on veut installer le programme lui-même et les librairies. C'est un peu la même chose avec DIM : la roue crantée donne accès via "basic settings" aux emplacements.

En cas de migration de l'ensemble de la librairie, il faut spécifier dans Dz Studio : Edit/préférences/ content/directory manager et pointer sur le ou les dossiers à afficher.

En passant à la version 4.12 j'ai aussi changé de PC et j'ai 2 GTX 2080, à la place d'une seule 1060, c'est rapide au rendu. Sinon, en bidouillant dans les paramètres de calcul, on peut réduire considérablement les temps de calculs, sous réserve que la carte graphique soit relativement récente et le pilote à jour, sinon, c'est une limace.

Je pense que les utilisateurs de Daz Studio sont une clientèle excellente pour Nvidia.

Perso, j'ai surtout des problèmes avec D Force, sans aucun doute parce que je n'ai pas trouvé de tuto correct. Ca se termine en explosion du vêtement et un plantage du programme la plupart du temps.

Il faut dire que c'est pour moi juste un "jouet pour adultes" particulièrement chronophage et onéreux.

Mes autres passe-temps, quoique coûteux, ont une pérennité qui est sans commune mesure, que ce soit le vélo ou la hifi tendance lourde....

Ils ne sont pas vraiment doués ni intéressées par les modes d'emploi chez Daz !!

Courage !

I never used the direct links after a purchase, but i do find it odd that there used to be two links/options and now both point to the new DAZ Central.

So i also doubt DAZ claims for this to be an alternative for new users. My guess is that slowly will keep obscuring DIM to the point that one day it will be gone and the excuse will be "almost nobody used it any more".

Oh, OK.  BUT will DAZ Central give me more options than DIM or are they about the same?  I read that both can't be used at the same time so a little hesitant to install the beta right now.  

DazCentral will always have a more focused and limited feature set than DIM.

 

They can both be used at the same time if your paths in DIM are simple (DazCentral only works with simple paths). If you change your paths in DazCentral it will overwrite all of the paths in DIM and will not likely set them to things that will keep your existing setup and configuration going.

Can you speak to the decision to make the one-click 'Download & Install' functionality for only items in an order only for Daz Central users? Both the my Orders page and the page that appears after making a purchase both have 'Download & Install' buttons that used to work with DIM (to install all products at once) but are now only for Daz Central.

I noticed this morning when I bought a few things that the 'Download & Install' button right after purchasing is Daz Central only, so the only option that I have now is to just refresh in DIM and check the items I want to install. Not very user friendly.