I was pretty excited when DAZ released the first Genesis almost 10 years ago, mostly because of the many versatile morphs and Autofit clothes. 

This thread is dedicated to renders of Genesis figures and their hair and wardrobes. Please join me if you like and feel free to alter maps and textures. 

Edit: Here are links to more threads dedicated to older figures:

V2/3 and M2/3 and children Appreciation Thread:

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/108001/the-older-generation-victoria-2-3-michael-2-3-and-their-children-renders/p1

Aiko 3 and Hiro 3 Appreciation Thread:

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/8629/generation-3-aiko-and-hiro-appreciation-thread

Genesis 2 Appreciation Thread:

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/734706/genesis-2-appreciation-thread

Nathanomir wrote" 

All right, I decided to give G8.1 a try, since I do like a healthy dose of realism in my flagship character.

I downloaded and installed Studio 4.15, Genesis 8 Starter Essentials (with the G8.1 stuff), and Victoria 8.1.

This is what happened. I can't show you since Galleries isn't working.

1. Loading Victoria 8.1 gave me a clay figure. DAZ 4.15 could not find the PBR skin, and I didn't know how to tell it to manually. That probably botched the whole experiment right there.

2. I loaded the V8.1 skins to the figure and got ... 3Delight shaders. Really? And the icon said they were for Iray.

3. I have no idea how the G8.1 skins look since DAZ wouldn't load them.

4. V8.1 did take my character's shaping and materials presets without many problems. V8.1 is set at 95% scaling for some reason, but that's an easy overrride. The Riversoft converted V7 for V8 face preset came in at 50% instead of 100%, and took some time to find, but not too bad.

5. The basic emotions and EJ expressions I use work, although she lost her signature brow arch.

6. The end result is G8F and G8.1F verisions of my character both look identical. So, why bother with the update?

G8.1 is probably great for animators (they have the patience to work with that PITA Power Pose) and maybe closeup portrait artists, but for action scene artists, there isn't anything here.

People always leave out, reloading the new Default Daz resources which is separate from the Genesis 8 Starter Essentials; you did that too, correct?"

All right, I decided to give G8.1 a try, since I do like a healthy dose of realism in my flagship character.

I downloaded and installed Studio 4.15, Genesis 8 Starter Essentials (with the G8.1 stuff), and Victoria 8.1.

This is what happened. I can't show you since Galleries isn't working.

1. Loading Victoria 8.1 gave me a clay figure. DAZ 4.15 could not find the PBR skin, and I didn't know how to tell it to manually. That probably botched the whole experiment right there.

2. I loaded the V8.1 skins to the figure and got ... 3Delight shaders. Really? And the icon said they were for Iray.

3. I have no idea how the G8.1 skins look since DAZ wouldn't load them.

4. V8.1 did take my character's shaping and materials presets without many problems. V8.1 is set at 95% scaling for some reason, but that's an easy overrride. The Riversoft converted V7 for V8 face preset came in at 50% instead of 100%, and took some time to find, but not too bad.

5. The basic emotions and EJ expressions I use work, although she lost her signature brow arch.

6. The end result is G8F and G8.1F verisions of my character both look identical. So, why bother with the update?

G8.1 is probably great for animators (they have the patience to work with that PITA Power Pose) and maybe closeup portrait artists, but for action scene artists, there isn't anything here.

Genesis 8.1 and Victoria 8.1 are gorgeous

FSMCDesigns said:

martin36 said:

I am wonder how Victoria 8.2 will look next month :)

LOL. I'm personally holding out for 8.5 myself. Thinking maybe 6-7 months out, LOL

I think it will be Genesis 10 next.

Genesis 3 was like Windows 7, Genesis 8 was like Windows 8, then Windows 8.1 so next we'll have Genesis 10. Although I think they will need to do something to Daz Studio first, it's limitations are causing speed issues already when you have a lot of content.
Steve.

Finally got my first try with Victoria 8.1 - she's pretty great!

There's certain angles that I don't much care for the look of her, but once I get in and add some morphs and do the mix & match thing I'm sure I can find something I like. Skin settings look great (DEFINITE improvement in the eyes, particularly the corners, and the mouth/teeth look MUCH better)

The vellus hair that she comes with is good, but not spectacular. If I recall, there's a separate section of it for the mouth, and that's where my biggest issue with it is, so if that's on it's own it can easily be removed or just not added. I can't really say for sure yet, as I've only done the one render, but the mouth area seems a bit much with it, but that could just be a one off with the lighting that I used. 

Lighting definitely needs a tweak for the new skin shader, or at least with Victoria 8.1's settings. I tried so many of my favourite light setups with her and found most of them to be very lackluster, from traditional 3 point setups with spotlights, to HDRI's, to mesh lights - the default load for the vast majority of them needed a lot of work. I eventually found a HDRI that looked like it had some promise, but I ended up tweaking just about every setting to get something I liked, then added in a backlight and fiddled around with that. 

It looks great, once you get the right setup for it, which will take a bit of time. Even the promos for her, I find the lighting in a lot of them doesn't really do her justice. I'll have a bit of a dig in tonight and see what I really think once I get a few real tests going, as this one was just supposed be a quick set-up and render to see what she was like.

I ended up photoshopping out most of the vellus hair around her mouth, had to fix some pokethrough, and added some extra depth and vibrance, but so far overall I'm impressed and looking forward to seeing what comes in the future to really bring out the potential.

Fit Control

You didn't choose a Gen 8 wardrobe item. That only pops up when you pick any other generation (Victoria 1-4, Genesis to Genesis 3) besides the one the figure is (Genesis 8).

Click the link above for more info.

PS: This has been a option for years now by the way.

Victoria 8.1 is loaded very heavily. When you apply the characters prepared for Genesis 8 to V 8.1, much more realistic renderings emerge.
Realism is ultimately about anatomy. Anatomy also depends on the number of polygons. As the number of polygons increases, the screams of our graphics cards increase.
Ryzen 5 3600X with 6 core processor, 8 GB video card and 64 GB ram
still not everything happens at the speed I want. I went through Poser program to DazStudio program. I still miss Poser. I used Poser for a very long time. Why is DazStudio taking a long time to install V8.1?

AllenArt said:

MxD said:

Just picked up the Victoria 8.1 upgrade and started exploring. So far i am extremly unimpressed, the face controls seem to be a disaster in the making. As soon as you inadvertently touch the wong part of any control DAZ crashes instantly every time. It's just completly useless and utterly frustrating. For any one contemplating this UPGRADE??? i would suggest to wait a while and see if DAZ gets the controls working unless of course you enjoy constantly recreating what has allready been done or have the discipline to save after each and every adjustment you make.

THIS IS VERY DISAPPOINTING

So many people say it's been crashing on them and I haven't had one crash using it. What version of DS are you using? Public or beta?

This is a known issue  if the bone is dragged directly, rather than through its gizmo, with IK enabled - it's because the controller figure is not set up in an IK-friendly way. The issue is understood and will be resolved in a future build of DS; for now try to avoid dragging on a bone, use sliders or the Viewport gizmo.

kimh said:

My first render of Victoria 8.1. I am pleased with her. Other then fixing a few poke-throughs and adjusting the lighting a little in Paintshop Pro this is her out of the box

 

if i cover up her robotic face and awkward hand pose with my hand, then this looks photoreal. Her skin looks really good here in this light set up.

Sven Dullah said:

scorpio said:

Anim said:

Sorry to create a new thread - I did not find a final answer in the G 8.1 thread.

Is the vellus hair included in the Genesis G 8.1 base female?

A: Yes, but not yet available in the starter essentials (you have to wait for an update of the package)

B. No, you have to buy Victoria 8.1 base package.

C. No, you have to buy the Victoria 8.1 University Bundle

Yea - just ignore the advertising.

Forgive them, for they know not what they are doing! (Sven 1:1)

Oh I think they know what they are doing very well. 

martin36 said:

I am wonder how Victoria 8.2 will look next month :)

LOL. I'm personally holding out for 8.5 myself. Thinking maybe 6-7 months out, LOL

ipaifencer_fe07e138e4 said:

I purchased 8.1 and have the same or similar problem. I can load all other versions of Genesis/Victoria by clicking image with no problem. 

 

With 8.1 I get the message:

The following files could not be found:

data/daz 3d/genesis 8/female 8_1/genesis8_1female.dsf

data/daz 3d/genesis 8/female 8_1/morphs/daz 3d/mouth realism/phmmouthrealism8_1_hd_div4.dsf

data/daz 3d/genesis 8/female 8_1/uv sets/daz 3d/base/base 8.1 female.dsf

runtime/textures/daz/characters/genesis8_1/femalebase/g8_1eyeirisdepthnormal_1007.tif

runtime/textures/daz/characters/genesis8_1/femalebase/g8_1mouth_nm_1006.tif

I deleted 8.1 files, downloaded again and re-installed, still get same issue.

You have installed the updated Genesis 8 Starter Essentials and the updated Default Resouces?

IceCrMn said:

I bought the Victoria 8.1 base and her HD package and I don't have the vellus hair.It shows up in the product library on my account page,but when I click it I just get a swirly.

No updates or anything in DIM either.

I'm having the same issue. Apparently, it has shown up in other people's DIM, so it seem to be hit and miss 

I am wonder how Victoria 8.2 will look next month :)

This is my first render with the new DS 4.15 Public and Victoria 8.1. For some reason if I save as png or tiff its saves partially transparent and with white dots on the image.  The render in the rendering viewport had no such dots and when I save as jpg does not have the white dots.  I save all my images as png and have never had this happen before (unintentionally of course).

Large images sorry but when I resized it made the dots harder to see.

I only bought Victoria 8.1 and I got it yesterday I think, or this morning, don't quite remember (been a bit stressed today lol). If it isn't in your product library (or can't find it in DIM or Smart Content depending which one you use) than you should probably contact support.

Novica said:

Hey folks!

I had just assumed there was a lull in posting- I wasn't getting any notifications at all suddenly on this thread. First time that's ever happened. So if you have some threads marked as favorites, be sure and check to see if they are still marked. This happened about the same time folks were booted off the forums. They just booted me off my favorite thread LOL (a bit biased.) 

Anyway, just wanted to post a thank you to @northof45 and @richardhaseltine for trying to assist with my stupid Postgre SQL problem.  I had used different external drives and one was pretty full, so I moved the studio to a different one (took hours) and voila, I am back!  So pretty sure it was a storage issue. (And that would affect DIM installs too.) 

So....your opinions on G8.1  ?   I'm not jumping in to Victoria 8.1. It's not that I don't think she's an improvement, I just don't intend to spend any money on a new gal at the moment. 

I'm also fully behind those of you who are annoyed at the gallery being down for so long. Totally agree it helps sell products. Guess they are relying on the forum members to do that (with the plug in showing gallery and forum links. Now just the forums have content.) 

Glad you figured it out. I didn't want to suggest any drive problems as I just had to replace one of my mirrored backups. I was having the occasional file copy error, but I attributed it to a bad download. Hah! After the third or fourth time in one week, I ran chkdsk and sure enough, cross-linked files and other errors. Tried to repair, but five days (!) later chkdsk said it ran out of space to recover any more files. Time to replace both disks (the second was just as old as the first, so not taking any chances it will happen again any time soon). Copied everything from the good disk over to a new one, tested the archives, found a few dozen with errors, re-downloaded them. Copied to the second new disk, and finally got back to normal. Took almost two weeks of my time, but now, when I refresh DIM, it only takes about 5-6 minutes where it used to take about 20+ minutes before. Moral of the story, check your disk for errors. I would have thought SMART status would notify me somehow without having to ask.

I bought the Victoria 8.1 base and her HD package and I don't have the vellus hair.It shows up in the product library on my account page,but when I click it I just get a swirly.

No updates or anything in DIM either.

"Faye"

One of my ongoing efforts is achieving a high degree of realism, especially with landscapes and scenes, including portraits. Here's my latest attempt, with Bluejaunte's Faye G8F young lady figure, but with the more recent HD Ensley shaders and close DOF. I also used the eyes from Raiya's excellent HD eye geometry for G8 figures, giving more realistic moisture and iris reflectivity. The figure was rendered at subdivision level 4. This is a large file (1800x14400, and best to view at full zoom. The render is not photo-realistically perfect, but it's getting there. I am still just using standard Iray rendering - Octane and Blender and other engines will have to wait for me to invest in a most recent NVIDIA rig and set up.  Victoria 8.1 and the latest Studio iterations may help achieve even higher levels of realism on this platform. Hope you like it.

Resources: 
- Faye for G8F, by Bluejaunte
- Ensley skin and normals / bump, by Bluejaunte
- Matilda Hair for G8F, by WindField
- HD eye geometry from the Lainey for Victoria 8 figure, by Raiya
- Top from Fredel's Retro Heroine 8 for G8F