felis said:

There has been some fuss about a Genesis 9 attachment, that shall not be named...
First the geograft was expected to be in the Victoria 9 bundle, but showed up in the product Character Essentials.

When that was solved, there were discussions about corresponding textures for the provided base skins. It was said to be added, but later that Daz had no such plans, as it apparently not was suitable for minors.

At some point in time there will emerge third party products to fill that gap.

But I thought, that I might be able to refit the UV layout to match the body surface, and with some fiddling around I got a result, and it looked fine to me. For obvious reasons I can't show the result.
But I have attached the refitted UV map, that must be properly placed in a content library.

Process for use:
1) Load your G9F and skin material
2) Attach the geograft
3) Change the shader of the geograft to SkinPBR (was at least needed for me)
4) Copy the Body surface to the geograft
5) Change the UV for the geograft to 'G9_f_gens_body_UV'

For the female it is fairly straight forward to change the UV to match the body texture, for the male not so much, as there is more visible material to be covered. I might try if I can find a way that seems feasible.

 

I don't know if you're still around but just wanted to say thank you for this amazing trick, it's the only thing that works with the default anatomical elements as far as I know.

I tried the tips below and the outcome is bad...

 

Leana said:

You need to install a V4 clone for G8F to autofit V4 clothes to G8F directly, only clones from Genesis 1 and up are included in G8F base.

V4 clone:

https://www.daz3d.com/sy-victoria-4-and-michael-4-clones-for-genesis-8

There's also this batch converter:

https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-clothing-converter-from-victoria-4-to-genesis-8-female

 

Another option is to convert in two steps: first autofit from V4 to Genesis 1, save the G1 version of the clothes, then autofit the G1 version to G8F.

well Safari was useless

maybe I should have asked the Victoria chatbot here 

fragrent dress (we cross posted) sounds odd

My prompt:

Please request Daz for a change to the chatbot so that the widget must be enabled via checkbox in the settings in order to appear.

 

Victoria:

I understand you'd like the chatbot widget to be optional through a settings checkbox. This is actually a feature request that has been discussed in our community forums.

One of our forum members made a similar product improvement request, specifically asking for the chatbot to be "off by default on mobile devices and so it may be turned on by a setting if the user wants it," noting that it takes up considerable screen space on mobile.

To submit your feature request directly to our development team, I'd recommend posting it in the Product Suggestions section of our forums where our team actively reviews community feedback for potential improvements.

...so slightly different answer/solution than what the previous commenter got.

 Victoria the chatbot has now made a ticket to look into my 5 month old unanswered ticket to sales.  Not holding my breath, will let you know if I get any kind of response or resolution with artificial intervention.

I'm pretty sure I once had V2, though my product library disagrees. I understand your desire to have the set, but I don't think it's something you can complete legitimately. Can I suggest you have a good read of the V2/3 thread here as I fear that's the closest you're likely to get to V2. I have made a few developments with V3 towards the end of that thread as I really like Jim Burton's Glamorous Vickie 3 and want to keep her as relevant as possible in a G9 world - not easy with a character dating to 2002. Regards, Richard.

WendyLuvsCatz said:

believe me, I would help you if I could

but if I were inclined to pass on warez, I couldn't imagine the shame of sharing something as sad as that 

(just to make it clear I don't share warez, I used to suggest Mimic Lite when it was available for Victoria 1)

Well at least my search will continue. I'll probably keep an eye out for poser content discs from Zygote/DAZ and hopefully find them two

believe me, I would help you if I could

but if I were inclined to pass on warez, I couldn't imagine the shame of sharing something as sad as that 

(just to make it clear I don't share warez, I used to suggest Mimic Lite when it was available for Victoria 1)

WendyLuvsCatz said:

you can still get V3 and M3, are in Outlet Store too,

think of V1,2 and M1,2 as less versatile versions of those with terrible UV mapping you would be hard pressed to find any textures for

(1&2 are the same mesh BTW minus morphs) any clothes out there can be fitted to V3 and M3 using a shape included with them too

https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-3-0-base

https://www.daz3d.com/michael-3-0-base

I already have those in my cart, and unfortunately I'm not satisfied with having just M3/V3 I'd like to actually be able to have a look at Daz's history hands on + make a render of all 9 generations of Victoria and Michael

you can still get V3 and M3, are in Outlet Store too,

think of V1,2 and M1,2 as less versatile versions of those with terrible UV mapping you would be hard pressed to find any textures for

(1&2 are the same mesh BTW minus morphs) any clothes out there can be fitted to V3 and M3 using a shape included with them too

https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-3-0-base

https://www.daz3d.com/michael-3-0-base

Now I know these are basically twenty year old models. But look: Millennium Man and Millennium Woman are both considered lost media at this point since they were taken out of circulation. You literally cannot find anything on them or archives for them (I'd rather obtain them through legitimate means anyways).

 

For Pete's sake there's really no documentation for them on the Daz wiki.

 

I genuinely think it'd be a good idea that Daz rerelease these models as legacy items so that they can have a chance at getting preserved + archived since they are, quite literally, a part of Daz's history. And maybe they'll have proper documentation if they're recirculated as legacy items 

 

Don't you think they should do that?

The chatbot seems to be very limited in what it can provide for answers.

I asked it what version of iray render engine where available in what versions of Studio and all it could really tell me was to find the changelogs and look it up myself.

Not really all that helpful.

I asked it questions about how it's trained and if it can update it's information to the most current and it basically told me that no it can't. It's most up to date information is for Studio version 4.22. 

So, until it's data set includes current versions it really won't be all that useful for anything a user would be doing in a current version.

I asked it what it's limitations were and it told me it can't provide things like materials preset, poses, and things like that. Anything considered as "content"

I didn't ask it more mundane questions like "how to install Studio" or "How do I install content". 

So I don't know how it performs on tasks such as these.

Here's it reply to my query of it limitations

keep in mind it also told me it's most current available data set is for Studio 4.22

"Perfect! Here's a clear summary of my limitations so you can craft effective questions:

What I Can Help With:

• Daz 3D software guidance (Daz Studio, workflows, features)

• Product information and usage instructions

• Troubleshooting software issues (installations, settings, rendering)

• Historical version information (though may not include latest releases)

• General how-to guidance for Daz processes

Key Limitations:

• No Content Creation - I can't generate actual files, materials, poses, or downloadable content

• No Account Access - Can't view your personal information, orders, or make account changes

• No Actions - Can't perform operations, updates, or changes on your behalf

• Hardware Safety - Won't suggest anything that could damage your equipment

• Knowledge Currency - My information may not include the very latest releases (like current 4.24 beta details)

• No Third-Party Support - Limited help with non-Daz applications or brokered plugins

My Role: I provide informational guidance to help you understand how to do things yourself, but I can't actually do them for you.

This should help you frame questions around "how do I..." rather than "can you create..." or "please do this for me."

Victoria • AI Agent • 9m ago

Is that what you were looking for?

Victoria • 9m ago"

vwrangler said:

Not only AI Search, but AI Support (the black dingbat that's now in the lower right corner of the screen, at least on full-size monitors). Victoria herself wants to help! (And, if I'm reading it correctly, if Victoria the AI Chatbot can't help, there may actually be a live person that she transfers you to, which seems odd, given that Daz turned off phone support ages ago.)

It will open a ticket for you. The hope is that it will be able to reduce the number of things that go through to a ticket, so that response times for those can improve.

MKDAWUSS said:

Victoria 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9? 

This will be Victoria 10. Obviously newer, better and more highly featured than any previous Victoria to date. To see her (as opposed to talking to her), you're going to need a load of accessories AND the full version of DS6. Regards, Richard

vwrangler said:

Not only AI Search, but AI Support (the black dingbat that's now in the lower right corner of the screen, at least on full-size monitors). Victoria herself wants to help! (And, if I'm reading it correctly, if Victoria the AI Chatbot can't help, there may actually be a live person that she transfers you to, which seems odd, given that Daz turned off phone support ages ago.)

I think you are refering the the first post in this thread. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/741341/chatbot-not-clicked-to-find-out

I don't see it on my desktop firefox.

MKDAWUSS said:

Victoria 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9? 

Poor Victoria 8.1 gets forgotten, I see. 

Not only AI Search, but AI Support (the black dingbat that's now in the lower right corner of the screen, at least on full-size monitors). Victoria herself wants to help! (And, if I'm reading it correctly, if Victoria the AI Chatbot can't help, there may actually be a live person that she transfers you to, which seems odd, given that Daz turned off phone support ages ago.)

Victoria 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9? 

Sorel said:

Why do we apparently need these chat bots?

Here is Victoria's answer 
Why do we need a chat bot?
Great question! Chatbots like me can provide immediate assistance when you need quick answers or help with common questions, rather than waiting for forum replies which can sometimes take days.
We're here to help you get faster support for urgent issues, guide you through troubleshooting steps, and provide information about our products and services right when you need it. This way, you can get back to creating amazing 3D art without delays!
Of course, for complex technical issues or account-specific matters, our human support team is always available when you need that extra level of assistance.
 

Well, as an experiment, I thought I'd ask the AI Victoria this question:

My expectations were that I'd either get a "No, you can't" answer... which is probably the useful answer for most people, but not strictly true when it's me asking the question...

... or a canned "Yes, Daz Studio has an auto-fit function that allows [...]" answer that would be unhelpful to anyone, because you can't autofit like that (there's no clone, and even if you make one there's technical problems). 

I wasn't really expecting this answer, which implies a lot about how the AI has been trained:

Firstly, it's wrong; You cannot use the Genesis 8 Centaur dForce Clothing Aids to fit bloomers to the centaur - I know, because I made them. (Drape skirts, cloaks or coats over the horse body, yes. Won't work on other things).

Secondly, parts of the answer are a near-verbatim quote from my forum freebie thread:

... which to me sounds a lot like it's been trained using forum posts, and in this case a pretty obvious regurgitation has come out because of how little training data would exist for a niche question like this.