To me she looks like the blur of a thousand 3D models from Victoria 4 2006 to G8F8.1 2021. Bland, totally without character and typiclaly generic, and as about as appealing as a sausage sandwich from the local hardware store.

Try this

tsroemi said:

If you want to know if postwork was used, could you not just ask, maybe? 

Only beginners would ask if an image is being postworked, Only the ones with a ton of years in this hobby is very simple what render have postwork or not. If somebody can't see the difference and being more than 4 years in this area then they have a problem, a really and serious problem.

and doesn't harm if one image have or not postwork, is the same question when somebody asks "Oh can you share your light setup?", is the same, the technique used, nobody renders with the infamous HDR included in the free content of DS neither your default Victoria texture with green eyes. 

for me, Art is any image with or without postwork, period.

brother grim said:

Here's what I've done so far. I created a place for my content C:\ Runtimes\V4, then I downloaded and unzipped the Victoria 4.2 base there, next I opened Carrara and went to the File/Folder icon on the browser tab but the option to add a runtime is greyed out. Obviously I'm doing something wrong.

Not "wrong", you just didn't get there yet ;)

For this to work, you simply have to have a scene open - even if it's empty. Just go to File > New and start any ol' scene, and your options will appear for you! 

Here's what I've done so far. I created a place for my content C:\ Runtimes\V4, then I downloaded and unzipped the Victoria 4.2 base there, next I opened Carrara and went to the File/Folder icon on the browser tab but the option to add a runtime is greyed out. Obviously I'm doing something wrong.

Nevermind I forgot to select the content tab first. She's loaded and everything is working. I'm sure more questions will follow later when I and more items.

Ati said:

I bought the Puppy Love Bundle this morning; I have the confirmation email. The bundle is now showing up in the store as unowned, and I don't have the bundle in my product library.

Happens quite often lately. I have same issues with https://www.daz3d.com/jordan-bundle-for-genesis-8-females. I also had issues with https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-8-1-university-bundle ;

For the second one, I have opened a ticket and it did take quite some time to fix. For the fisrt one I haven't bothered (yet). Seems like there is something not working as it should in the background. 

lindans said:

Just playing with the PBRSkin settings for Genesis 8.1 I have selected the skin etc.in the surface tab and typed enable but not sure which ones to turn off and on at the moment my skin just whites out. oops just realised that was the translucency tab, but any other hints would be greatfully recieved LOL!

white skin?, just turn off the Make Up button, that is the cause with white skin figures.

Hint: using PBR skin on simple G8.0 textures is doable but you must know that some channels have missing textures: Detail Map, Ambient Occlusion Map, Depth Map, yes, they can faked using SSS maps and Normal maps but the results will be very different when compared to Victoria 8.1 HD skin, requires a lot of patience and some knowledge and the result is not 100% accurate.

on the other hand there is some online services that creates this maps, bad for me I forgot the links, but still Photoshop is your friend. 

Thank you Daz for providing textures and compatibility with Michael 8.1 and Victoria 8.1 with both male and female anatomy. I hope official Genesis 8.1 figures will continue to have support for different kinds of characters like this.

Leana said:

Choronzon said:

And... it didn't work for me.  I dont have the lastest update as that sounds like an immense head ache for now... just was gonna wait til the bugs were worked out.

Anyway I saved the Victoria 8 figure as a shape and then loaded 8.1 and applied the shape and... nothing.  I will keep poking to see what I missed.

You need 4.15 if you want G8.1 to be able to use G8 morphs automatically. In earlier versions of DS G8.1 won't load G8 morphs when you load the figure, so applying a preset wouldn't work.

I noticed the face morphs were not working... Torn between returning 8.1 and upgrading.  Last time I upgraded it took me two or three months to get back to being able to work.  I still dont use their downloader because of that episode.

Leonides02 said:

Well, personally, I think these new 8.1 figures are a huge step down from Victoria 8.1

"Quality Control" isn't quite the same thing as "quality standards". Although the terminology often gets mixed up with Quality Assurance*, Quality Control is about fulfilling the specified standards, not the setting of the standards in the first place.

* QC is about trying to ensure products meet the standards in the first place (making sure your workers are properly trained, you've got suitable equipment, etc), QA is about rejecting products that don't meet them (checking things after manufacture and chucking away failures).

And, as is, it's hard to argue this product doesn't meet existing standards for figures; there are doubtless worse Genesis 8 era figures on the store.

The thing is, PAs are in a difficult place. The base figure has been updated, but the Merchant Resources aren't there yet. All the skin resources are still for the old UVs.

This means they either stick with Genesis 8.0 entirely, and create corrective morphs for a set of facial controls that are no longer officially supported on G8.1, or they stick with Genesis 8.0 UVs on G8.1 figures, and create their corrective morphs for the new and improved facial controls of G8.1. It's hard to argue that the second choice isn't the better option, even if it's not as good as G8.1 might have the potential to be in the long run.

Padone said:

Just a few diffeo updates that you do not want to miss. The 8.1 FACS is now supported together with FaceCap animations. Then there's also basic support for PBRSkin, not complete yet but enough to import Victoria 8.1.

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/353/option-to-load-facecap-data-in-as-facs ;

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/349/first-support-for-genesis-81-skin-bsdf

fred9803 said:

A few peopke have mentioned quality control as the problem. I' don't think there's an issue with regard to the product's quality, but more to do with its description... accurate details (or lack of them).

Well, personally, I think these new 8.1 figures are a huge step down from Victoria 8.1

Padone said:

Just a few diffeo updates that you do not want to miss. The 8.1 FACS is now supported together with FaceCap animations. Then there's also basic support for PBRSkin, not complete yet but enough to import Victoria 8.1.

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/353/option-to-load-facecap-data-in-as-facs ;

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/349/first-support-for-genesis-81-skin-bsdf

Looking great! Excited to test it out myself. 

Your best bet is to start with the new Victoria 8.1

https://www.daz3d.com/tenley-for-genesis-81-female

I bought this character as I was curious to see how a PA utilised the new texture format (Face, Head, Body, Legs and Arms). They didn't, as they are clearly in the old Genesis 8.0 format (Face, Torso, Legs and Arms).

There isn't the new extra normal specular detail maps, not is there the ambient occlusion section of the shader. Now admittedly these features come via Victoria 8.1, however when loading G8.1 female, the maps are Genesis 8.1, not Genesis 8.0

I've requested a refund - a little disgusted tbh.

I shall be wary of purchasing any G8.1 characters.

Padone said:

Just a few diffeo updates that you do not want to miss. The 8.1 FACS is now supported together with FaceCap animations. Then there's also basic support for PBRSkin, not complete yet but enough to import Victoria 8.1.

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/353/option-to-load-facecap-data-in-as-facs ;

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/349/first-support-for-genesis-81-skin-bsdf

Wow! I'm rendering shots today, but if I get an hour or two break, I am going to try and see if I can get the facecap aspect to work! 

Padone said:

Just a few diffeo updates that you do not want to miss. The 8.1 FACS is now supported together with FaceCap animations. Then there's also basic support for PBRSkin, not complete yet but enough to import Victoria 8.1.

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/353/option-to-load-facecap-data-in-as-facs ;

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/349/first-support-for-genesis-81-skin-bsdf

Wow, you're really fast. Decided this year to switch from Cinema 4D to Blender, as this is really a grown up CG application since 2.8x. Getting Daz content to Blender is something I always longed for und Diffeo seems to be a great solution. You're all doing a great job to bring Daz content to the Blender environment.

Thanks a lot!

Just a few diffeo updates that you do not want to miss. The 8.1 FACS is now supported together with FaceCap animations. Then there's also basic support for PBRSkin, not complete yet but enough to import Victoria 8.1.

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/353/option-to-load-facecap-data-in-as-facs ;

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/349/first-support-for-genesis-81-skin-bsdf

Choronzon said:

And... it didn't work for me.  I dont have the lastest update as that sounds like an immense head ache for now... just was gonna wait til the bugs were worked out.

Anyway I saved the Victoria 8 figure as a shape and then loaded 8.1 and applied the shape and... nothing.  I will keep poking to see what I missed.

You need 4.15 if you want G8.1 to be able to use G8 morphs automatically. In earlier versions of DS G8.1 won't load G8 morphs when you load the figure, so applying a preset wouldn't work.

empty said:

Yep, me again - hoping the squeky wheel gets the oil. I know, I know, it ain't probably gonna happen, but there's no harm in pushing the narrative. Maybe a PA might create a collab line of 'Retro Daz Stars of Yesteryear' and bring back some time honored classic figures for the 8.1 series as a one-off.  Anything is possible. 

Hey, you never know. Maybe the reason he got pulled after we saw a morph fit for him -- assuming it wasn't an outright error -- was because they thought, "You know, we already have The Brute planned as a sort of muscleman type, if a lot more stylized than realistic. Maybe we should hold Gianni for the planned 8.1 generation, since we probably won't repeat Brute for that."

My suspicion, based on nothing besides history, is that for 8.1 they'll probably repeat all the characters that have repeated from Genesis 2 through Genesis 8 (I think that's Michael, Victoria, Olympia, Gia, Darius, Monique, Aiko, The Girl, Lee, Mei Lin and Teen Josie -- the other repeats, like Stephanie, Eva, Mika, either didn't start until Genesis 3 or skipped Genesis 3). And it's not out of the question that some of the others might repeat as well (especially Stephanie, I'd think). But depending on how long they plan for G8.1 to run -- at least a year, probably longer, I'd guess -- they'll need other characters to fill in for the biweekly tempo they've tried to maintain. Yes, some of them will be nonhumans and minibundles, like Baxter the Bulldog this week, but most will be human. So why not stick Gianni in one of those slots?

And... it didn't work for me.  I dont have the lastest update as that sounds like an immense head ache for now... just was gonna wait til the bugs were worked out.

Anyway I saved the Victoria 8 figure as a shape and then loaded 8.1 and applied the shape and... nothing.  I will keep poking to see what I missed.