In essence what I want is something like a middle ground, in terms of 'body' or 'thickness' between this
https://www.daz3d.com/vidal-braids-for-genesis-2-female-s
and this
https://www.daz3d.com/medea-hair-for-genesis-2-female-s-and-victoria-4

Those convertors only handle transfer of the shape of the figure from V4 to G3F/G8F. If you want to use the skin textures as well then you need this Cayman Studios product too.

ETA: That one is for G8F - there is a similar product for G3F but I think that is sold at the Renderosity store, not here.

Hello;

is it possible to use generation 4 (vintage) characters on Genesis 3 and 8?...

Like old characters for Victoria 4...could they be used on the newest generation characters?...any plugin or some kind of converter?...

Or is the only way really by using Victoria 4?...

Honzo said:

In the store I see items listed for G8 and G8.1; just for G8 and just for G8.1. Is there a compatibility issue there? 

Clothing items made for either G8 or G8.1 should be compatible with either figure, though occasionally one will pop up the autofit dialog.

Also, V8 is a G8 figure, as I understand it- if an apparel item says 'G8' will it auto-fit V8? What about other characters based on V8? 

V8 is a morph for G8, not a distinct figure. Not every item for G8F will fit every G8F morph perfectly, but the closer a morph is to the base figure (and V8's body is not that different from base G8F) the less likely it is to cause problems. Also, clothing makers will generally include corrective morphs for different figures. 

So far I am having trouble with auto-fit for things like socks with pre-G8 figures, even though the item appears in the content window with 'context on'.  Is this just life in DAZ world or am I missing something?

Footwear is the hardest thing to fit across generations, so you're definitely best off finding something made for G8 if possible.

Also, if an item is listed as 'genesis' compatible, does that mean genesis zero/1, however that's counted, or does it mean 'all genesis figures'?

Genesis is the fifth generation of Daz's original figures, which is why the Genesis versions of Victoria, Michael etc. are Victoria 5, Michael 5, and so on. This continued with Genesis 2 (Victoria/Michael 6), and Genesis 3 (V/M7), before Daz finally converged the naming conventions for Genesis 8. If an item is compatible with "Genesis", that means the original Genesis, otherwise the item would specify which generation of Genesis it's made for/compatible with.

In the store I see items listed for G8 and G8.1; just for G8 and just for G8.1. Is there a compatibility issue there? 

Also, V8 is a G8 figure, as I understand it- if an apparel item says 'G8' will it auto-fit V8? What about other characters based on V8? 

So far I am having trouble with auto-fit for things like socks with pre-G8 figures, even though the item appears in the content window with 'context on'.  Is this just life in DAZ world or am I missing something?

Also, if an item is listed as 'genesis' compatible, does that mean genesis zero/1, however that's counted, or does it mean 'all genesis figures'?

Sky77 said:

katywhite said:

Title: Don’t Leave Me By The Subway

Free Stuff

1. Asian Dress Set 01 for G8F (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/83346/asian-dress-set-01-for-g8f)
2. G8M Walther 2.0 (https://sharecg.com/v/97276/related/21/DAZ-Studio/G8M-Walther-2.0)
3. Dforce Walther 2.0 shirt & shorts for G8M (https://sharecg.com/v/97280/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Dforce-Walther-2.0-shirt-shorts-for-G8M)
4. BOUCHE DE METRO Update (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/80403/bouche-de-metro-update)
5. Basic Pumps for Genesis 2 Female(s) (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/74884/basic-pumps-for-genesis-2-females)
6. Floral Dress (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/84293/floral-dress)
7. HH Olympia Starter Kit (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/85584/hh-olympia-starter-kit)
8. Side Swept ROse Hair (G3F,G8F) UPDATE (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/79641/side-swept-rose-hair-g3fg8f-update)
9. dforce Chronicles G3F G8F (https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/dforce-chronicles-g3f-g8f/124484)
10. Evening Dress for Genesis 2, 3 and 8 Females (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/87696/evening-dress-for-genesis-2-3-and-8-females)
11. Trish Hair for Genesis 3 Female (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/77150/trish-hair-for-genesis-3-female)
12. G3 Fairy(Elven)Dress (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/76773/g3-fairyelvendress)
13. FF7 Remake Tifa for G8F (https://www.deviantart.com/shinteo/art/FF7-Remake-Tifa-for-G8F-846437057)

Neutral

1. Genesis 2 Female

Paid

1. Daisy 8 (https://www.daz3d.com/daisy-8)
2. Masozi for Celani 8 for Genesis 3 and 8 Female (https://www.daz3d.com/masozi-for-celani-8-for-genesis-3-and-8-female)
3. FWSA Saffron HD for Victoria 7 (https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-saffron-hd-for-victoria-7)

 

You are all set!  Please move to the Entry Thread.  

Poor thing, so desperate not to be left behind... oh the horrible mystery of stairs...

Nice use of perspective and pose to set the scene!

Your link #9 looks like it is for purchase (???) though it is not available currently.  Please move to your paid items list for this entry.  You have enough freebies otherwise.

Oops that might have been one of those limited time only freebies I got in the past. Sorry about that! I've moved it to the paid part on my submission in the entries thread.

And thank you! It took me a bit but I finally got it to the pose and perspective I was happy with :)

Title: Don’t Leave Me By The Subway

Free Stuff

1. Asian Dress Set 01 for G8F (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/83346/asian-dress-set-01-for-g8f)
2. G8M Walther 2.0 (https://sharecg.com/v/97276/related/21/DAZ-Studio/G8M-Walther-2.0)
3. Dforce Walther 2.0 shirt & shorts for G8M (https://sharecg.com/v/97280/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Dforce-Walther-2.0-shirt-shorts-for-G8M)
4. BOUCHE DE METRO Update (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/80403/bouche-de-metro-update)
5. Basic Pumps for Genesis 2 Female(s) (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/74884/basic-pumps-for-genesis-2-females)
6. Floral Dress (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/84293/floral-dress)
7. HH Olympia Starter Kit (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/85584/hh-olympia-starter-kit)
8. Side Swept ROse Hair (G3F,G8F) UPDATE (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/79641/side-swept-rose-hair-g3fg8f-update)
9. Evening Dress for Genesis 2, 3 and 8 Females (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/87696/evening-dress-for-genesis-2-3-and-8-females)
10. Trish Hair for Genesis 3 Female (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/77150/trish-hair-for-genesis-3-female)
11. G3 Fairy(Elven)Dress (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/76773/g3-fairyelvendress)
12. FF7 Remake Tifa for G8F (https://www.deviantart.com/shinteo/art/FF7-Remake-Tifa-for-G8F-846437057)

Neutral

1. Genesis 2 Female

Paid

1. Daisy 8 (https://www.daz3d.com/daisy-8)
2. Masozi for Celani 8 for Genesis 3 and 8 Female (https://www.daz3d.com/masozi-for-celani-8-for-genesis-3-and-8-female)
3. FWSA Saffron HD for Victoria 7 (https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-saffron-hd-for-victoria-7)
4. dforce Chronicles G3F G8F (https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/dforce-chronicles-g3f-g8f/124484)

Check the figure number, bearing in mind that Genesis = Victoria etc. 5, Genesis 2 = Victoria etc. 6, and Genesis 3 = Victoria etc. 7. Textures will be an add-on (if for something) or may be generic (various fabric shaders can be applied to anything, though the result will depend on how the model is set to apply textures). "For" usually indicates that what you are looking at is soem kind of add-on, and there should be a required products note too. If you do end up with something you can't use then, within 30 days, you can request a refund via a sales support ticket https://www.daz3d.com/help

There is pretty much info on how to install check for content etc.

But for someone who lands on the Daz platform now, there is chaos in regards to figures and many contents on the shop that need to be wised checked for compatibility.

Is there a tutorial that explains figures and compatibility like victoria is an old product do I still need to buy for compatibility for shop content.

Why can't adapt to the new Gemini figure, what is the difference with dForce why some are Gemini and others are dForce.

I buy this https://www.daz3d.com/v4-arabesque but then I need to buy Victoria 4 I also buy this
https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-figure-skater-outfit-textures but need  dForce Figure Skater Outfit for Genesis 8 Female

Pretty complex and very puzzling.
Thanks for help

katywhite said:

Title: Don’t Leave Me By The Subway

Free Stuff

1. Asian Dress Set 01 for G8F (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/83346/asian-dress-set-01-for-g8f)
2. G8M Walther 2.0 (https://sharecg.com/v/97276/related/21/DAZ-Studio/G8M-Walther-2.0)
3. Dforce Walther 2.0 shirt & shorts for G8M (https://sharecg.com/v/97280/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Dforce-Walther-2.0-shirt-shorts-for-G8M)
4. BOUCHE DE METRO Update (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/80403/bouche-de-metro-update)
5. Basic Pumps for Genesis 2 Female(s) (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/74884/basic-pumps-for-genesis-2-females)
6. Floral Dress (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/84293/floral-dress)
7. HH Olympia Starter Kit (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/85584/hh-olympia-starter-kit)
8. Side Swept ROse Hair (G3F,G8F) UPDATE (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/79641/side-swept-rose-hair-g3fg8f-update)
9. dforce Chronicles G3F G8F (https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/dforce-chronicles-g3f-g8f/124484)
10. Evening Dress for Genesis 2, 3 and 8 Females (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/87696/evening-dress-for-genesis-2-3-and-8-females)
11. Trish Hair for Genesis 3 Female (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/77150/trish-hair-for-genesis-3-female)
12. G3 Fairy(Elven)Dress (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/76773/g3-fairyelvendress)
13. FF7 Remake Tifa for G8F (https://www.deviantart.com/shinteo/art/FF7-Remake-Tifa-for-G8F-846437057)

Neutral

1. Genesis 2 Female

Paid

1. Daisy 8 (https://www.daz3d.com/daisy-8)
2. Masozi for Celani 8 for Genesis 3 and 8 Female (https://www.daz3d.com/masozi-for-celani-8-for-genesis-3-and-8-female)
3. FWSA Saffron HD for Victoria 7 (https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-saffron-hd-for-victoria-7)

 

You are all set!  Please move to the Entry Thread.  

Poor thing, so desperate not to be left behind... oh the horrible mystery of stairs...

Nice use of perspective and pose to set the scene!

Your link #9 looks like it is for purchase (???) though it is not available currently.  Please move to your paid items list for this entry.  You have enough freebies otherwise.

I've purchased a couple different pose and wearable prop sets with bath towels. 

https://www.daz3d.com/sy-dforce-towels-for-genesis-8

https://www.daz3d.com/bath-towel-and-poses-for-victoria-8

Both sets only load the wearable parented to the figure, but the G8F figure doesn't pose at all. Other poses are working fine.

Any ideas as to why that would happen?

yukimuki12 said:

MelissaGT said:

cridgit said:

MelissaGT said:

Thanks! Rosawyn is a custom character and her skin is what I call a "franken-skin". It's a custom-blended (in Photoshop) amalgamation of Babina 8, Victoria 7 (love her fine details), and LY Bramble. I built the sss maps from scratch and then tweaked the shaders using my workflow process.  

I'd buy! 

I do have some merchant resources and I have contemplated making a couple characters for sale...however I prefer the Uber Shader, and it seems most folks frown on characters being released without the newer (not necessarily better) PBR Skin Shader these days.  
 

 

would you share your settings with us? :) that problem let save everythin as i know

At the beginning of this thread is a link to an article I put together that covers my workflow for the Uber Shader...though those settings will not work for spectral rendering.

Does anyone know why expressions are not working on a character? I'm using Victoria 8.1 and I have bought some 8.1 expression packs but trying to apply them to the model it doesnt change anything. Is there something I am missing?

MelissaGT said:

cridgit said:

MelissaGT said:

Thanks! Rosawyn is a custom character and her skin is what I call a "franken-skin". It's a custom-blended (in Photoshop) amalgamation of Babina 8, Victoria 7 (love her fine details), and LY Bramble. I built the sss maps from scratch and then tweaked the shaders using my workflow process.  

I'd buy! 

I do have some merchant resources and I have contemplated making a couple characters for sale...however I prefer the Uber Shader, and it seems most folks frown on characters being released without the newer (not necessarily better) PBR Skin Shader these days.  
 

would you share your settings with us? :) that problem let save everythin as i know

cridgit said:

MelissaGT said:

Thanks! Rosawyn is a custom character and her skin is what I call a "franken-skin". It's a custom-blended (in Photoshop) amalgamation of Babina 8, Victoria 7 (love her fine details), and LY Bramble. I built the sss maps from scratch and then tweaked the shaders using my workflow process.  

I'd buy! 

I do have some merchant resources and I have contemplated making a couple characters for sale...however I prefer the Uber Shader, and it seems most folks frown on characters being released without the newer (not necessarily better) PBR Skin Shader these days.  

Hi!

I am a longtime DAZ user, I've spent several 1000s of dollars over the years. But I will pause as a protest. I am sorry.

Here are the reasons briefly:

• The new UI might look good, but it's really bad user experience compared to the previous version. 
• I used to be able to see everything relevant in one look and I could make a decesion quickly. It was EFFORTLESS.
• But now, everything is tiring and difficult. All the relevant information that I need requires a lot of effort to obtain.
• Before doing such a big change, you should have asked feedback from the users on a seperate test site.

DETAILED PAIN POINTS:

1) Unusable for Bundles. Example https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-8-1-university-bundle

• OLD WEBSITE:
  • 1) you could check each individual part of the bundle in a matter of a second
  • 2) I could see if I own that part of the bundle
  • 3) I could visit a product inside the bundle quickly
• NEW WEBSITE:
  • scroll up-and-down like a mad man
  • I have no clue if I own that part of the bundle or not

2) Required Products

• OLD WEBSITE:
  • 1) I could see in an instant as this info was higher up at a prime location
  • 2) I could see if I own the required product or not
• NEW WEBSITE:
  • I need to scroll down to see if there is a required product, it's not at a prime location
  • page doesn't tell me if I own the required product or not
• Note:  Information about "Required Products" is a key info when making a purchase decesion. It should be treated as such.

3) Already Owned Button

• OLD WEBSITE:
  • the button was different depending if I already own or not
  • the visual clue helps my mind to understand the info intuitively, without any reading effort
• NEW WEBSITE:
  • the button is the same color
  • and I need to make an effort to read it

4) Black background

• OLD WEBSITE:
  • easy on the eye
  • matches the rest of the store
• NEW WEBSITE:
  • very hard on the eye
  • it doesn't match the rest of the store, which is confusing for someone new.
  • But the black background is the least of my problem. The usability is a bigger issue

CAN YOU PLEASE...:

• Please consider fixing these issues
• But even better, much better, reverse the product page
• Can we please get a response from the team? Thanks!

cridgit said:

Melissa, thank you for sharing those tests. Is that texture from a commercially available character? It looks like a really good one.

Thanks! Rosawyn is a custom character and her skin is what I call a "franken-skin". It's a custom-blended (in Photoshop) amalgamation of Babina 8, Victoria 7 (love her fine details), and LY Bramble. I built the sss maps from scratch and then tweaked the shaders using my workflow process.  

Title: Don’t Leave Me By The Subway

Free Stuff

1. Asian Dress Set 01 for G8F (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/83346/asian-dress-set-01-for-g8f)
2. G8M Walther 2.0 (https://sharecg.com/v/97276/related/21/DAZ-Studio/G8M-Walther-2.0)
3. Dforce Walther 2.0 shirt & shorts for G8M (https://sharecg.com/v/97280/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Dforce-Walther-2.0-shirt-shorts-for-G8M)
4. BOUCHE DE METRO Update (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/80403/bouche-de-metro-update)
5. Basic Pumps for Genesis 2 Female(s) (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/74884/basic-pumps-for-genesis-2-females)
6. Floral Dress (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/84293/floral-dress)
7. HH Olympia Starter Kit (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/85584/hh-olympia-starter-kit)
8. Side Swept ROse Hair (G3F,G8F) UPDATE (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/79641/side-swept-rose-hair-g3fg8f-update)
9. dforce Chronicles G3F G8F (https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/dforce-chronicles-g3f-g8f/124484)
10. Evening Dress for Genesis 2, 3 and 8 Females (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/87696/evening-dress-for-genesis-2-3-and-8-females)
11. Trish Hair for Genesis 3 Female (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/77150/trish-hair-for-genesis-3-female)
12. G3 Fairy(Elven)Dress (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/76773/g3-fairyelvendress)
13. FF7 Remake Tifa for G8F (https://www.deviantart.com/shinteo/art/FF7-Remake-Tifa-for-G8F-846437057)

Neutral

1. Genesis 2 Female

Paid

1. Daisy 8 (https://www.daz3d.com/daisy-8)
2. Masozi for Celani 8 for Genesis 3 and 8 Female (https://www.daz3d.com/masozi-for-celani-8-for-genesis-3-and-8-female)
3. FWSA Saffron HD for Victoria 7 (https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-saffron-hd-for-victoria-7)

I do really like this HDRI. I have used it to illustrate all my female pose transfer scripts. To demonstrate that a pose is accurately transferred, you need to see as much of the character as possible. So, a bikini is useful. To avoid being accused of gratuitous use of a bikini, the character must be getting wet, and the only way of having it so the whole character is visible while getting wet is to have the character underwater. This is where the HDRI comes in. Here's an example with the G8F pose transfer to Jim Burton's elderly Victoria 3 based Glamorous Vickie:

Regards,

Richard

I hope you don't mind if I make some comments. They are intended to help future projects be even better, not to criticise or make this one seem terrible, because it's great. I do like it, and know that my current equivalent project is a bit stalled through a lack of gumption.

Right, the brick size is a bit huge. In reality bricks including mortar tend to be 9" x 4.5" x 3" (225 x 110 x 75mm). The main bricks are HUGE in comparison, looking at 8"/200mm high. The 'Stones' in the pillars don't look like bricks, so can be believable the size they are. It may be worth scaling the texture so it can be closer to reality. The thing I tried was to tile the texture. Oh dear. That didn't work. It may be worth trying to use a seamless texture for bricks so that it can be tiled by the user.

Next comment. In your original texture, the mortar aligns around a corner. This is great. If the user, however, uses a different shader, then due to an offset in the texture mapping, the shader bricks don't match up around the corner.

OK, that's enough comments, now to show it in use. I used UltraScenery instead of the ground, and used some Victoria 3 based characters to remind myself how good they can be in iRay. Then used the 'Sunflowers' HDRI from PolyHaven as the background.

Regards,

Richard.