You are welcome to send us examples of your recording, then we can look at it and say more.

Thank you.

I am assuming then that Anilip is unique in using the Windows STT system. Am I correct?

SAPI is a Windows standard that is used in countless products and solutions for speech recognition or Text2Speech since 1995. Alternatives to this can only be found in the cloud today. AWS, Google, Azure, IBM, Nuance and many more.

Thank you Dobit. Sorry, I meant to say 'unique among lipsync software.' I believe the answer is yes. Personally I can't spare the time to debug this 'windows standard.' AWS transcription is fast, easy, free for light use, dirt cheap in pay mode, and best of all, AWS JSON does not stop Anilip from functioning. It works. You were wise to provide AWS as a fallback.

The accuracy of STT has never been 100% no matter who does it, and AWS is no exception. However, the JSON file contains an editable transcript of my audio file, and I can I can make any needed corrections before submitting the file to Anilip. This is the next best thing to actually seeing and editing the lipsync animation on a timeline. It's less work too.

Anilip begins its animation on frame 1 by default and does not allow me to change this. I found that I could, with some fiddling, make an Aniblock out of the animation and adjust its start frame. The alternative would be adjusting the start time in compositing software (groan).

I am pleased and relieved that DAZ has provided a needed alternative to the aging 32 bit Mimic program. Anilip will make lipsync in DAZ possible long after Mimic is gone. I am glad for this.

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You've told us you have the next Anilip release in the works. Can you show us a timeline? a list of planned enhancements?

Thanks.

There are not many Windows based LipSync products, but as far as I know Voice-O-Matic and IClone also use MS SAPI for speech recognition. But as I said, we are happy to look at your file.

To start Lip Sync at an other frame offset, you can use Animate2 and Aniblocks or you can save as a "Pose Preset". Just select all Viseme options (see example image). You can then load your preset at any frame offset.

We are planning a maintenance release for our existing customers for the next 2 months. We want to better support 3rd party voices and will publish a list of tested 3rd party voices. There will be minor feature additions and some bug fixes. Otherwise we are working on recognizing moods and converting them to a 3D figure. However, we cannot yet give a specific date here.

Thank you. This raises the question, how is the Anilip implementation different from the iClone implementation. I'm not really asking, I'm just wondering. I've not had a single voice recognition issue with Reallusion since 2004. It was CrazyTalk that introduced me to lipsync. I was fascinated with lipsync then, and still am.

I assume by 'third party voices' you mean TTS. Personally I've never been satisfied with TTS. Adobe Voco would have been wonderful for voiceovers. What a shame a sudden change of heart 'persuaded' them to withhold it. For a short time I visualized exchanging my Voco 'voice profile' with other voice actors.

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Ah, Pose Preset! I'll learn that!

Thank you for the information and comparisons. In the end, I think it's probably a question of error handling. We do it rather strictly, others may be more relaxed. If we analyzed your recording, we would most likely find the signal level too low. Maybe that as a hint for others who might get such an error message.

You are welcome to send us examples of your recording, then we can look at it and say more.

Thank you.

I am assuming then that Anilip is unique in using the Windows STT system. Am I correct?

SAPI is a Windows standard that is used in countless products and solutions for speech recognition or Text2Speech since 1995. Alternatives to this can only be found in the cloud today. AWS, Google, Azure, IBM, Nuance and many more.

Thank you Dobit. Sorry, I meant to say 'unique among lipsync software.' I believe the answer is yes. Personally I can't spare the time to debug this 'windows standard.' AWS transcription is fast, easy, free for light use, dirt cheap in pay mode, and best of all, AWS JSON does not stop Anilip from functioning. It works. You were wise to provide AWS as a fallback.

The accuracy of STT has never been 100% no matter who does it, and AWS is no exception. However, the JSON file contains an editable transcript of my audio file, and I can I can make any needed corrections before submitting the file to Anilip. This is the next best thing to actually seeing and editing the lipsync animation on a timeline. It's less work too.

Anilip begins its animation on frame 1 by default and does not allow me to change this. I found that I could, with some fiddling, make an Aniblock out of the animation and adjust its start frame. The alternative would be adjusting the start time in compositing software (groan).

I am pleased and relieved that DAZ has provided a needed alternative to the aging 32 bit Mimic program. Anilip will make lipsync in DAZ possible long after Mimic is gone. I am glad for this.

.......................................

You've told us you have the next Anilip release in the works. Can you show us a timeline? a list of planned enhancements?

Thanks.

There are not many Windows based LipSync products, but as far as I know Voice-O-Matic and IClone also use MS SAPI for speech recognition. But as I said, we are happy to look at your file.

To start Lip Sync at an other frame offset, you can use Animate2 and Aniblocks or you can save as a "Pose Preset". Just select all Viseme options (see example image). You can then load your preset at any frame offset.

We are planning a maintenance release for our existing customers for the next 2 months. We want to better support 3rd party voices and will publish a list of tested 3rd party voices. There will be minor feature additions and some bug fixes. Otherwise we are working on recognizing moods and converting them to a 3D figure. However, we cannot yet give a specific date here.

Thank you. This raises the question, how is the Anilip implementation different from the iClone implementation. I'm not really asking, I'm just wondering. I've not had a single voice recognition issue with Reallusion since 2004. It was CrazyTalk that introduced me to lipsync. I was fascinated with lipsync then, and still am.

I assume by 'third party voices' you mean TTS. Personally I've never been satisfied with TTS. Adobe Voco would have been wonderful for voiceovers. What a shame a sudden change of heart 'persuaded' them to withhold it. For a short time I visualized exchanging my Voco 'voice profile' with other voice actors.

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Ah, Pose Preset! I'll learn that!

no results came up for what I'm talking aboit when I searched for spine or realusion. I have the face trasnfer software 

they are not DAZ products

they are 2D softwares for animating photos and artworks etc

you won't find them searching this forum 

we cannot link off site third party software 

I only use Crazytalk out of all of them myself 

the newest version which I don't have is called Cartoon Animator and is by Reallusion

OP

you need to look at other softwares for that

such as

Reallusion Crazytalk Animator

Spine

Anime Studio

I imagine it can only work with what it detects as a face since it doesn't use marking

I use Facegen for example which has markers you place for features and that handles illustrations fine

likewise Crazytalk 8 which I use for iClone Character creator, the extra help enables the programs to define the face

Have you got everything from those 500 pages installed in your Daz Library? I've only got 412 pages, I try to keep it all installed but I'm running low on disc space.

 

Actually, most of it is installed, though not all.  If a product exists in both Poser and DAZ versions, I normally only have the DS version installed, and there are a bunch of items that just don't work anymore or became obsolete... there were a LOT of products that stopped working when DAZ Studio software switched from the 3.0s to the 4.0s, for example, others like the two very badly missed 3D content Database that relied on external programs that were discontinued, some that were replaced by newer versions of the same thing when those artists or companies stopped selling at DAZ, like the Reallusion products like iClone and CrazyTalk... and then there's the stack of essentially dead products from my foray into Carrerra, including Carrara itself, that I uninstalled.   

On the other hand, I do have a significant portion of my 7,500+ purchases from Renderosity installed, as well as a bunch of pre-DAZ merger RDNA, CG-Bytes, MOSTDIgital, Heroworld,Content Paradise, Poserworld, etc., so that easily offsets what I don;'t have installed.  Currently it's all on external drives and yes, some of it, especially the Genesis 8 Female figures, is getting very sluggish to install, but other product categories like vehicles and animals still install really quickly and they're in the same content library which is currently a bit short of 4TB of storage on a 6 TB HDD drive. With my new computer, my current plan is to have most of the 3D content spread over two 4TB SSD drives and DS itself on a 2 TB PCIe SSD, and a couple of HDD drives for backup, the really ancient/no longer used stuff, and mirrors of my current content libraries just in case I miss something and need to find it later.  

   

Okay, because you are a member since 2005, and in case you are affiliated with Daz and have access to a greater unpaid library,  I have to ask, how many pages of paid content do you have (as in you took the money from your personal bank account and paid for it?) Or a better question would be how much have you spent here at DAZ?

Emphasis mine. Some of us would really prefer NOT to know how much we've spent. I know I don't. At 455 pages of Daz products, plus what I've bought at other stores, I can guess, but I know I really don't want to know how much I've spent. Considering I only started in 2014, it's probably way too much!

Yeah, I initially answered it but then retracted the info after several others mentioned the same thing.  Actually, though, the total was far less than I would assume it would be, all things considered.  

mine was actually less than I expected too even though it shocked others mentioning it on facebook once, it was much less than most spend yearly on pay TV etc which I don't do,

there was one there that looked after I mentioned it and actually had spent more than you!

no idea how many pages he had though

you might have spent more wisely 

I don't know about more WISELY, but the DAZ system is so HEAVILY weighed in favor of making larger purchases, that the average prices that items will be sold at is generally pretty predictable. Add in the fact that once they've stopped being "new" items, all DAZ Originals go on sale for at least 65% at least once a month and at least 70% off at least every three montht and that all of the major PAs go on sale for at least 50% off once a month and for between 60--70% off at least once every three and it's pretty easy to figure out when the optimun times that shiny new item in the store is going to be.  And if something goes on sale for effectively LESS than that, like right now with the confluence of 30% off GCs and 30% off loyalty rewards... ka-ching!       

Have you got everything from those 500 pages installed in your Daz Library? I've only got 412 pages, I try to keep it all installed but I'm running low on disc space.

 

Actually, most of it is installed, though not all.  If a product exists in both Poser and DAZ versions, I normally only have the DS version installed, and there are a bunch of items that just don't work anymore or became obsolete... there were a LOT of products that stopped working when DAZ Studio software switched from the 3.0s to the 4.0s, for example, others like the two very badly missed 3D content Database that relied on external programs that were discontinued, some that were replaced by newer versions of the same thing when those artists or companies stopped selling at DAZ, like the Reallusion products like iClone and CrazyTalk... and then there's the stack of essentially dead products from my foray into Carrerra, including Carrara itself, that I uninstalled.   

On the other hand, I do have a significant portion of my 7,500+ purchases from Renderosity installed, as well as a bunch of pre-DAZ merger RDNA, CG-Bytes, MOSTDIgital, Heroworld,Content Paradise, Poserworld, etc., so that easily offsets what I don;'t have installed.  Currently it's all on external drives and yes, some of it, especially the Genesis 8 Female figures, is getting very sluggish to install, but other product categories like vehicles and animals still install really quickly and they're in the same content library which is currently a bit short of 4TB of storage on a 6 TB HDD drive. With my new computer, my current plan is to have most of the 3D content spread over two 4TB SSD drives and DS itself on a 2 TB PCIe SSD, and a couple of HDD drives for backup, the really ancient/no longer used stuff, and mirrors of my current content libraries just in case I miss something and need to find it later.  

   

Okay, because you are a member since 2005, and in case you are affiliated with Daz and have access to a greater unpaid library,  I have to ask, how many pages of paid content do you have (as in you took the money from your personal bank account and paid for it?) Or a better question would be how much have you spent here at DAZ?

I don't work for DAZ and with the exception of a few products I won as prizes in render contests, I paid the same prices for as any other PC+ member could have.  In fact, others could very well have spent less as it was a number of years before I got really got into all the habits that maximized my discounts... like regularly buying large GC whe they're in the 30% off arange so that $100 worth of product bought with the GCs costs $70.00 in real dollars and stacking sales as much as possible.  .  

(Pulled exact breakdown as I'm not sure of is exactly how that factors out the discount percentages on Gift Certificates, how the products that I already owned from RuntimeDNA merged into figure, and how the full value of PC+ items that were bought when they weren't PC+ items yet reflect on the full and current price value... though in the last case, my guess is that if the full price went down when it was bought out or converted by DAZ, that the Full Price Value of the total library has actually dropped.)      

Have you got everything from those 500 pages installed in your Daz Library? I've only got 412 pages, I try to keep it all installed but I'm running low on disc space.

 

Actually, most of it is installed, though not all.  If a product exists in both Poser and DAZ versions, I normally only have the DS version installed, and there are a bunch of items that just don't work anymore or became obsolete... there were a LOT of products that stopped working when DAZ Studio software switched from the 3.0s to the 4.0s, for example, others like the two very badly missed 3D content Database that relied on external programs that were discontinued, some that were replaced by newer versions of the same thing when those artists or companies stopped selling at DAZ, like the Reallusion products like iClone and CrazyTalk... and then there's the stack of essentially dead products from my foray into Carrerra, including Carrara itself, that I uninstalled.   

On the other hand, I do have a significant portion of my 7,500+ purchases from Renderosity installed, as well as a bunch of pre-DAZ merger RDNA, CG-Bytes, MOSTDIgital, Heroworld,Content Paradise, Poserworld, etc., so that easily offsets what I don;'t have installed.  Currently it's all on external drives and yes, some of it, especially the Genesis 8 Female figures, is getting very sluggish to install, but other product categories like vehicles and animals still install really quickly and they're in the same content library which is currently a bit short of 4TB of storage on a 6 TB HDD drive. With my new computer, my current plan is to have most of the 3D content spread over two 4TB SSD drives and DS itself on a 2 TB PCIe SSD, and a couple of HDD drives for backup, the really ancient/no longer used stuff, and mirrors of my current content libraries just in case I miss something and need to find it later.  

   

Okay, because you are a member since 2005, and in case you are affiliated with Daz and have access to a greater unpaid library,  I have to ask, how many pages of paid content do you have (as in you took the money from your personal bank account and paid for it?) Or a better question would be how much have you spent here at DAZ?

I don't work for DAZ and with the exception of a few products I won as prizes in render contests, I paid the same prices for as any other PC+ member could have.  In fact, others could very well have spent less as it was a number of years before I got really got into all the habits that maximized my discounts... like regularly buying large GC whe they're in the 30% off arange so that $100 worth of product bought with the GCs costs $70.00 in real dollars and stacking sales as much as possible.  .  

(Pulled exact breakdown as I'm not sure of is exactly how that factors out the discount percentages on Gift Certificates, how the products that I already owned from RuntimeDNA merged into figure, and how the full value of PC+ items that were bought when they weren't PC+ items yet reflect on the full and current price value... though in the last case, my guess is that if the full price went down when it was bought out or converted by DAZ, that the Full Price Value of the total library has actually dropped.)      

Happy New Year

I guess i only have two words for you as a response.

Holy [redacted]!

Have you got everything from those 500 pages installed in your Daz Library? I've only got 412 pages, I try to keep it all installed but I'm running low on disc space.

 

Actually, most of it is installed, though not all.  If a product exists in both Poser and DAZ versions, I normally only have the DS version installed, and there are a bunch of items that just don't work anymore or became obsolete... there were a LOT of products that stopped working when DAZ Studio software switched from the 3.0s to the 4.0s, for example, others like the two very badly missed 3D content Database that relied on external programs that were discontinued, some that were replaced by newer versions of the same thing when those artists or companies stopped selling at DAZ, like the Reallusion products like iClone and CrazyTalk... and then there's the stack of essentially dead products from my foray into Carrerra, including Carrara itself, that I uninstalled.   

On the other hand, I do have a significant portion of my 7,500+ purchases from Renderosity installed, as well as a bunch of pre-DAZ merger RDNA, CG-Bytes, MOSTDIgital, Heroworld,Content Paradise, Poserworld, etc., so that easily offsets what I don;'t have installed.  Currently it's all on external drives and yes, some of it, especially the Genesis 8 Female figures, is getting very sluggish to install, but other product categories like vehicles and animals still install really quickly and they're in the same content library which is currently a bit short of 4TB of storage on a 6 TB HDD drive. With my new computer, my current plan is to have most of the 3D content spread over two 4TB SSD drives and DS itself on a 2 TB PCIe SSD, and a couple of HDD drives for backup, the really ancient/no longer used stuff, and mirrors of my current content libraries just in case I miss something and need to find it later.  

   

Okay, because you are a member since 2005, and in case you are affiliated with Daz and have access to a greater unpaid library,  I have to ask, how many pages of paid content do you have (as in you took the money from your personal bank account and paid for it?) Or a better question would be how much have you spent here at DAZ?

Emphasis mine. Some of us would really prefer NOT to know how much we've spent. I know I don't. At 455 pages of Daz products, plus what I've bought at other stores, I can guess, but I know I really don't want to know how much I've spent. Considering I only started in 2014, it's probably way too much!

Yeah, I initially answered it but then retracted the info after several others mentioned the same thing.  Actually, though, the total was far less than I would assume it would be, all things considered.  

mine was actually less than I expected too even though it shocked others mentioning it on facebook once, it was much less than most spend yearly on pay TV etc which I don't do,

there was one there that looked after I mentioned it and actually had spent more than you!

no idea how many pages he had though

you might have spent more wisely 

the totals don't reflect what deals one scores, there would be people using content professionaly who have a lot less and have paid near full price

in fact I would wager you and Novica probably have a lot more content for your buck than many would being savvy and forum active which the facebook friend I mentioned isn't 

Have you got everything from those 500 pages installed in your Daz Library? I've only got 412 pages, I try to keep it all installed but I'm running low on disc space.

 

Actually, most of it is installed, though not all.  If a product exists in both Poser and DAZ versions, I normally only have the DS version installed, and there are a bunch of items that just don't work anymore or became obsolete... there were a LOT of products that stopped working when DAZ Studio software switched from the 3.0s to the 4.0s, for example, others like the two very badly missed 3D content Database that relied on external programs that were discontinued, some that were replaced by newer versions of the same thing when those artists or companies stopped selling at DAZ, like the Reallusion products like iClone and CrazyTalk... and then there's the stack of essentially dead products from my foray into Carrerra, including Carrara itself, that I uninstalled.   

On the other hand, I do have a significant portion of my 7,500+ purchases from Renderosity installed, as well as a bunch of pre-DAZ merger RDNA, CG-Bytes, MOSTDIgital, Heroworld,Content Paradise, Poserworld, etc., so that easily offsets what I don;'t have installed.  Currently it's all on external drives and yes, some of it, especially the Genesis 8 Female figures, is getting very sluggish to install, but other product categories like vehicles and animals still install really quickly and they're in the same content library which is currently a bit short of 4TB of storage on a 6 TB HDD drive. With my new computer, my current plan is to have most of the 3D content spread over two 4TB SSD drives and DS itself on a 2 TB PCIe SSD, and a couple of HDD drives for backup, the really ancient/no longer used stuff, and mirrors of my current content libraries just in case I miss something and need to find it later.  

   

Okay, because you are a member since 2005, and in case you are affiliated with Daz and have access to a greater unpaid library,  I have to ask, how many pages of paid content do you have (as in you took the money from your personal bank account and paid for it?) Or a better question would be how much have you spent here at DAZ?

Emphasis mine. Some of us would really prefer NOT to know how much we've spent. I know I don't. At 455 pages of Daz products, plus what I've bought at other stores, I can guess, but I know I really don't want to know how much I've spent. Considering I only started in 2014, it's probably way too much!

Yeah, I initially answered it but then retracted the info after several others mentioned the same thing.  Actually, though, the total was far less than I would assume it would be, all things considered.  

Have you got everything from those 500 pages installed in your Daz Library? I've only got 412 pages, I try to keep it all installed but I'm running low on disc space.

 

Actually, most of it is installed, though not all.  If a product exists in both Poser and DAZ versions, I normally only have the DS version installed, and there are a bunch of items that just don't work anymore or became obsolete... there were a LOT of products that stopped working when DAZ Studio software switched from the 3.0s to the 4.0s, for example, others like the two very badly missed 3D content Database that relied on external programs that were discontinued, some that were replaced by newer versions of the same thing when those artists or companies stopped selling at DAZ, like the Reallusion products like iClone and CrazyTalk... and then there's the stack of essentially dead products from my foray into Carrerra, including Carrara itself, that I uninstalled.   

On the other hand, I do have a significant portion of my 7,500+ purchases from Renderosity installed, as well as a bunch of pre-DAZ merger RDNA, CG-Bytes, MOSTDIgital, Heroworld,Content Paradise, Poserworld, etc., so that easily offsets what I don;'t have installed.  Currently it's all on external drives and yes, some of it, especially the Genesis 8 Female figures, is getting very sluggish to install, but other product categories like vehicles and animals still install really quickly and they're in the same content library which is currently a bit short of 4TB of storage on a 6 TB HDD drive. With my new computer, my current plan is to have most of the 3D content spread over two 4TB SSD drives and DS itself on a 2 TB PCIe SSD, and a couple of HDD drives for backup, the really ancient/no longer used stuff, and mirrors of my current content libraries just in case I miss something and need to find it later.  

   

Okay, because you are a member since 2005, and in case you are affiliated with Daz and have access to a greater unpaid library,  I have to ask, how many pages of paid content do you have (as in you took the money from your personal bank account and paid for it?) Or a better question would be how much have you spent here at DAZ?

Emphasis mine. Some of us would really prefer NOT to know how much we've spent. I know I don't. At 455 pages of Daz products, plus what I've bought at other stores, I can guess, but I know I really don't want to know how much I've spent. Considering I only started in 2014, it's probably way too much!

Have you got everything from those 500 pages installed in your Daz Library? I've only got 412 pages, I try to keep it all installed but I'm running low on disc space.

 

Actually, most of it is installed, though not all.  If a product exists in both Poser and DAZ versions, I normally only have the DS version installed, and there are a bunch of items that just don't work anymore or became obsolete... there were a LOT of products that stopped working when DAZ Studio software switched from the 3.0s to the 4.0s, for example, others like the two very badly missed 3D content Database that relied on external programs that were discontinued, some that were replaced by newer versions of the same thing when those artists or companies stopped selling at DAZ, like the Reallusion products like iClone and CrazyTalk... and then there's the stack of essentially dead products from my foray into Carrerra, including Carrara itself, that I uninstalled.   

On the other hand, I do have a significant portion of my 7,500+ purchases from Renderosity installed, as well as a bunch of pre-DAZ merger RDNA, CG-Bytes, MOSTDIgital, Heroworld,Content Paradise, Poserworld, etc., so that easily offsets what I don;'t have installed.  Currently it's all on external drives and yes, some of it, especially the Genesis 8 Female figures, is getting very sluggish to install, but other product categories like vehicles and animals still install really quickly and they're in the same content library which is currently a bit short of 4TB of storage on a 6 TB HDD drive. With my new computer, my current plan is to have most of the 3D content spread over two 4TB SSD drives and DS itself on a 2 TB PCIe SSD, and a couple of HDD drives for backup, the really ancient/no longer used stuff, and mirrors of my current content libraries just in case I miss something and need to find it later.  

   

Okay, because you are a member since 2005, and in case you are affiliated with Daz and have access to a greater unpaid library,  I have to ask, how many pages of paid content do you have (as in you took the money from your personal bank account and paid for it?) Or a better question would be how much have you spent here at DAZ?

I don't work for DAZ and with the exception of a few products I won as prizes in render contests, I paid the same prices for as any other PC+ member could have.  In fact, others could very well have spent less as it was a number of years before I got really got into all the habits that maximized my discounts... like regularly buying large GC whe they're in the 30% off arange so that $100 worth of product bought with the GCs costs $70.00 in real dollars and stacking sales as much as possible.  .  

(Pulled exact breakdown as I'm not sure of is exactly how that factors out the discount percentages on Gift Certificates, how the products that I already owned from RuntimeDNA merged into figure, and how the full value of PC+ items that were bought when they weren't PC+ items yet reflect on the full and current price value... though in the last case, my guess is that if the full price went down when it was bought out or converted by DAZ, that the Full Price Value of the total library has actually dropped.)      

Have you got everything from those 500 pages installed in your Daz Library? I've only got 412 pages, I try to keep it all installed but I'm running low on disc space.

 

Actually, most of it is installed, though not all.  If a product exists in both Poser and DAZ versions, I normally only have the DS version installed, and there are a bunch of items that just don't work anymore or became obsolete... there were a LOT of products that stopped working when DAZ Studio software switched from the 3.0s to the 4.0s, for example, others like the two very badly missed 3D content Database that relied on external programs that were discontinued, some that were replaced by newer versions of the same thing when those artists or companies stopped selling at DAZ, like the Reallusion products like iClone and CrazyTalk... and then there's the stack of essentially dead products from my foray into Carrerra, including Carrara itself, that I uninstalled.   

On the other hand, I do have a significant portion of my 7,500+ purchases from Renderosity installed, as well as a bunch of pre-DAZ merger RDNA, CG-Bytes, MOSTDIgital, Heroworld,Content Paradise, Poserworld, etc., so that easily offsets what I don;'t have installed.  Currently it's all on external drives and yes, some of it, especially the Genesis 8 Female figures, is getting very sluggish to install, but other product categories like vehicles and animals still install really quickly and they're in the same content library which is currently a bit short of 4TB of storage on a 6 TB HDD drive. With my new computer, my current plan is to have most of the 3D content spread over two 4TB SSD drives and DS itself on a 2 TB PCIe SSD, and a couple of HDD drives for backup, the really ancient/no longer used stuff, and mirrors of my current content libraries just in case I miss something and need to find it later.  

   

Okay, because you are a member since 2005, and in case you are affiliated with Daz and have access to a greater unpaid library,  I have to ask, how many pages of paid content do you have (as in you took the money from your personal bank account and paid for it?) Or a better question would be how much have you spent here at DAZ?

Have you got everything from those 500 pages installed in your Daz Library? I've only got 412 pages, I try to keep it all installed but I'm running low on disc space.

Actually, most of it is installed, though not all.  If a product exists in both Poser and DAZ versions, I normally only have the DS version installed, and there are a bunch of items that just don't work anymore or became obsolete... there were a LOT of products that stopped working when DAZ Studio software switched from the 3.0s to the 4.0s, for example, others like the two very badly missed 3D content Database that relied on external programs that were discontinued, some that were replaced by newer versions of the same thing when those artists or companies stopped selling at DAZ, like the Reallusion products like iClone and CrazyTalk... and then there's the stack of essentially dead products from my foray into Carrerra, including Carrara itself, that I uninstalled.   

On the other hand, I do have a significant portion of my 7,500+ purchases from Renderosity installed, as well as a bunch of pre-DAZ merger RDNA, CG-Bytes, MOSTDIgital, Heroworld,Content Paradise, Poserworld, etc., so that easily offsets what I don;'t have installed.  Currently it's all on external drives and yes, some of it, especially the Genesis 8 Female figures, is getting very sluggish to install, but other product categories like vehicles and animals still install really quickly and they're in the same content library which is currently a bit short of 4TB of storage on a 6 TB HDD drive. With my new computer, my current plan is to have most of the 3D content spread over two 4TB SSD drives and DS itself on a 2 TB PCIe SSD, and a couple of HDD drives for backup, the really ancient/no longer used stuff, and mirrors of my current content libraries just in case I miss something and need to find it later.  

Has anyone tried a robot face like a Gundam? LOL  How do you even use this?

i havn't tried a gundam. I did try cat faces, they don't work. The software needs actual human  points to make the face. Though the more human features the better chance it will work.

Yes I tried a cat too and failed

software that uses face fitting is needed like Crazytalk

I have done cat textured Character Creator figures for iClone that way

dosen't work in the other progs either well the older faceshop, don't know about one click and doesn't in facegen tried in that though haven't tried with the new cgi CATS movie type

Has anyone tried a robot face like a Gundam? LOL  How do you even use this?

i havn't tried a gundam. I did try cat faces, they don't work. The software needs actual human  points to make the face. Though the more human features the better chance it will work.

Yes I tried a cat too and failed

software that uses face fitting is needed like Crazytalk

I have done cat textured Character Creator figures for iClone that way

I see you can now import figures from DAZ to Character Creator 3 - Is it also possible
to import them from CC3 to DAZ?

I've been wondering this too.   If you are using CC3 and iClone I'd be interested in any comments you might have.   I see CC3 will be released as a stand alone product sometime this year, so that should make it cheaper and more accessible to more people. 

All I can really add is that I use another product (CrazyTalk) from the same company and find it to be most excellent.   I'd be using iClone and CC3 already except that they require a PC (no Mac version) and so I'm having to work on getting a PC first.

Can you explain why you would want to transfer a CC3 character to Daz?  This is a question, not a point or debate.  What do you wish to do in Daz that you couldn't do in iClone?  Again, I don't have iClone so I really don't know.

This probably won't help, but here's what I do sometimes. 

1) I start with a headshot photograph.

2) I animate the headshot in CrazyTalk.  The cheapest version ($30) will do the job. CrazyTalk will automatically animate the face in response to an uploaded voice track, or you can manually animate the face, or you can choose from a collection of preset animations.  Finally, export the animated head to a movie file, with voice soundtrack if desired.

3) I then layer the CrazyTalk head on top of the Daz figure, or any other video, using Hitfilm (free video editor).

Like anything else this method has it's pros and cons and won't be suitable for many folks.   It requires learning CrazyTalk and Hitfilm of course, both easier to learn than Daz, because it's just 2D.  The pros are that CrazyTalk is a more powerful face animater, and you can apply any face photo to your Daz figure.  Headshop and Facegen do much the same thing within Daz.  I can't comment much on that process as I've not explored it yet, though I plan to.

I'm curious if any of you are adding voice tracks to your characters.   Here's how I do it, if you have a better way, or a way entirely within Daz, please share.

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I do it like this:

1) Animate a character in Daz, keeping the face looking in to the camera throughout.

2) Go in to CrazyTalk and animate a head shot photograph, while adding a voice track.   This gets exported to a 2D video.

3) Then I open Hitfilm and layer the CrazyTalk talking head on top of the Daz actor's face.

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Layering a 2D video on top of a Daz animation obviously has the limitation that your Daz character has to face the camera at all times.  I'm finding this pretty workable, but if there is a better way I'd like to learn it.

What are you up to in this realm?

That's a very apples and oranges comparison, as they have very different purposes.  Headshop is designed to create head morphs that can be applied to DAZ's 3D figures.  Crazytalk is an animation program that happens to be able to create a 3D head that can be posed, rigged and animated.  I have both, although not the the currrent version of either, and Crazytalk is a  better animation tool if you want lip synch animation, especially since it can animate anything with a face...from a photo of a real human to a cartoon drawing of a cat. If all you want is a human head shape, Headshop is a passable tool that gives you access to the extensive library of clothing props and sets made for DAZ figures which you can animate in DAZ Studio, or render out as still images to animate with Crazytalk.  That said, if you're leaning toowards Headshop, you should know that there's another product sold here at DAZ, Face Gen Pro, that does the same thing only, in my experience, far better, and also allows you to hand dial up a wide range of realistic and exagerated human faces on the fly.  

Hello all,

I just discovered Headshop, looks quite impressive, and I'm trying to learn more.

There is a good discussion at the following link which compares Headshop and Facegen.

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/292591/headshop-11-questions/p4

Rather than repeat that thread I was hoping members might be able to compare Headshop and CrazyTalk here.   I use a lower version of CrazyTalk which creates 2D heads.  A higher version creates 3D heads from photos.

I'd also welcome links to sales pages and other information which can further educate me about Headshop.   So far all I can find is this:   https://www.daz3d.com/headshop-9-2-macintosh-64-bit

I'm a Mac user if that matters, and a very novice DAZ user.