I hope if daz will added victoria 4 and michael for genesis 9

Victoria 4 Compatible UV Set

Autofit Clone Shapes Compatible with V4 and M4 Shoes And Clothes, Character Shapes,Head Morph and Body Morph for genesis 9

Just like genesis 1 and 2 male and female

What If victoria 9 and michael 9 meets victoria 4 and michael 4 for genesis 9

That will be great idea to have victoria 4 and michael 4 skin and morphs works in genesis 9 will look like

I love aiko and hiro 

What if daz will added aiko 9 and hiro 9 in genesis 9 after victoria 9 and michael 9 and victoria4 and michael4 for genesis 9?

When aiko 9 and hiro 9 will come out? 2022 or 2023? I'm very excited to see Aiko 9 and Hiro 9 Look Like.

xyer0 said:

Well, if you're gonna ride this G9 train, you'd better keep up with its releases, because the rampant miscategorisation that has turned G8 store searches into exercises of frustration or futility is continuing with G9. G9 products may be found under G8, G8.1, or G9, but some are not found under any category, giving new meaning to the phrase "go figure."

Unfortunately this is one of the main gripes I have with Daz's Store, it can get very annoying and confusing trying to find content that I am after.

Padone said:

Oso3D said:

It's disheartening to see so many people eager to call time of death on something that's been out less than a month.

May it be there's a reason ? G9 is HD based that means only PAs can do HD morphs for G9, and HD is stressing the hardware not everyone can afford it. Plus DAZ made a mess with the shop we have Victoria 9 without makeup, basic skins without anatomy etc. Honestly, G9 is the worst genesis ever.

Luckily 3rd parties come to the rescue with G9 expansions, but these are workarounds on features that should have been fixed by DAZ.

There is one 3rd party vendor that I know of had recreated one of their G8 characters on G9, and it was a completely different looking character.

Your link to Frida is wonky. Here is a good one. https://www.daz3d.com/ry-frida-for-victoria--8

I found because I wanted to find out if I had her. I have both and might try the outfit later. That outfit is one I believe I had to dForce in layers, but that was years ago.

Oso3D said:

It's disheartening to see so many people eager to call time of death on something that's been out less than a month.

May it be there's a reason ? G9 is HD based that means only PAs can do HD morphs for G9, and HD is stressing the hardware not everyone can afford it. Plus DAZ made a mess with the shop we have Victoria 9 without makeup, basic skins without anatomy etc. Honestly, G9 is the worst genesis ever.

Luckily 3rd parties come to the rescue with G9 expansions, but these are workarounds on features that should have been fixed by DAZ.

I love Genesis 9 and Victoria 9

After Michael 9, Aiko 9 and Hiro 9. when will Victoria 4 And Michael 4 for Genesis 9 come out? 2022 or 2023? I'm very exicted if Generation 4 meet Generation 9 (Genesis 9)

Dolce Saito said:

The experiences I have with G9 (mainly victoria hd):

- Way faster load times than G8.1 figures and comparable load times with G8 figures.

- Immediately crashes if I set subD to Loop (case with Victoria HD).

- Hard to understand how to load a G9 figure. I mean, for example; it is not apparent and easy to find G9 Female figure right ahead.

- G9 female doesn't look like female!?

- Growing Up pack doesn't properly correct chest ratios.

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This is it for now.

First thing I did was to make character presets of Genesis 9 with the female morph and one with the male. I just drop in whatever one I want to start with. :) 

MikeyFTL said:

Everyone gets more excited about Michael's release than Victoria's. V9 wouldn't sell as much if M9 came out at the same time. Plus it gives PAs more time to develop clothes, poses, expressions etc. for him.

Speaking of poses....what's with those "Base Masculine" poses for G9? There's nothing masculine about them. They're just copies of the feminine poses.

I deleted them off my hard drive ;). Converted a folder full of Shimuzu's G8M poses. MUCH better. LOL 

I figured out the problem: the outfit doesn't like Frida. https://www.daz3d.com/ry-frida-for-victoria--8 ; It's fine on G8 but as soon as I dial-in Frida it goes wonky.

I used the Winter Trendy outfit insteas, since it had no issues.

bohemian3 said:

I have been using Marvelous Designer for creating garments for DAZ for close to a year now.  My gallery linked here shows some of my recent work.  Through this thread I'm hoping to create a microcommunity of other DAZ users who want to explore fashion and traditional pattern making techniques using DAZ and Marvelous Designer.  Ask questions, post your work.  

My Gallery - Marvelous Designer and DAZ

A fashion staple of many women's wardrobe is the LBD - the Little Black Dress. I have created a very brief overview of creating custom fitted garments like the LBD for Victoria 9 in Marvelous Designer using traditional pattern making technique. It is not a step-by-step guide, but rather an overview. I will be posting more videos that go in-depth into the sloper creating process soon.

YouTube Video Tutorial Overview : LBD for Victora 9

 

I am finishing up the following videos and will post soon:

Techniques for Creating Sloper

Draping Garments in Marvelous Designer and Importing into DAZ

Thanks for starting this thread. I'd like to see the LBD on a more contrasting background. Here it seems to blend in, and I can't really see its shape.

Works great - only small adjustment added. Below is a render of Victoria 9 with pose converted from Genesis 8.

I like very much, that the poses are converted directly and does not require to save them first.

I have been using Marvelous Designer for creating garments for DAZ for close to a year now.  My gallery linked here shows some of my recent work.  Through this thread I'm hoping to create a microcommunity of other DAZ users who want to explore fashion and traditional pattern making techniques using DAZ and Marvelous Designer.  Ask questions, post your work.  

A fashion staple of many women's wardrobe is the LBD - the Little Black Dress. I have created a very brief overview of creating custom fitted garments like the LBD for Victoria 9 in Marvelous Designer using traditional pattern making technique. It is not a step-by-step guide, but rather an overview. I will be posting more videos that go in-depth into the sloper creating process soon.

Since doing these videos, Marvelous Designer has added puckering and binding tools - be sure to check them out when adding trim around necklines and armholes.

 I used FBX and obj exports in earlier videos out of inexpereince.  Thanks all you introduced me to the Alembic Exporter - a better workflow for exporting out of DAZ:

Sagan Alembic Exporter.

Video 1: Tutorial Overview : LBD for Victoria 9
Video  2: Creating Slopers for DAZ Characters in Marvelous Designer
Video 3:  Posing in DAZ and Draping in Marvelous Designer Workflow
Video 4: Finishing the Sloper: Sleeves
Video 5: From Slopers to Patterns
Video 6: Collarless Casual Shirt Complete Project
Video 7: Alternal Method for Adding Trim
Video 8: Prepping meshes for DAZ and Substance Painter
Video 9: Shape Morphs and Scripting the Timeline
Video 10:  Creating Pleats and Ruffs

If you've never used Marvelous Designer before, but are familiar with 2D Vector tools like Illustrator you can probably jump right in with Video 6 and the free trail version and the template starter files in resources if you have V9 or M8.

Link: Free Trial at bottom of page - you'll need to create login

Last off, here is a link to a shared folder that contains the reference images I used in the videos and the M8 and V9 Marvelous Designer Project files.

Images and MD Project Files

If you've been thinking of checking out the free one month trial of Marvelous Designer, Video 3 is a good video to beging with to show the power of MD and the sloper patterns will get you started.

I'm still missing a simple mouth open / close slider.

The base figure is to small.

The shoulders look too massive.

The female breasts don't look attractive (because of the unisex mesh?).

The improved expressions are nice.

Victoria 9 has a pretty face.

In case you are rendering scenes with multiple characters, you need a very powerful machine.

The HD nipples are not as good as G8Fs.

The navel looks unrealistic (both navel and nipples miss topology in the base figure).

Dolce Saito said:

The experiences I have with G9 (mainly victoria hd):

- Way faster load times than G8.1 figures and comparable load times with G8 figures.

- Immediately crashes if I set subD to Loop (case with Victoria HD).

Why would you chnage the SubD type? In any event, I am told this is not happening for Daz in the current builds - if it is for you please save a scene showing that, and attach it to a support ticket.

- Hard to understand how to load a G9 figure. I mean, for example; it is not apparent and easy to find G9 Female figure right ahead.

- G9 female doesn't look like female!?

- Growing Up pack doesn't properly correct chest ratios.

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This is it for now.

Dolce Saito said:

The experiences I have with G9 (mainly victoria hd):

- Way faster load times than G8.1 figures and comparable load times with G8 figures.

- Immediately crashes if I set subD to Loop (case with Victoria HD).

- Hard to understand how to load a G9 figure. I mean, for example; it is not apparent and easy to find G9 Female figure right ahead.

- G9 female doesn't look like female!?

- Growing Up pack doesn't properly correct chest ratios.

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This is it for now.

Of course it loads faster. You don't have an entire generation of morphs klinging to it.

Everyone gets more excited about Michael's release than Victoria's. V9 wouldn't sell as much if M9 came out at the same time. Plus it gives PAs more time to develop clothes, poses, expressions etc. for him.

Speaking of poses....what's with those "Base Masculine" poses for G9? There's nothing masculine about them. They're just copies of the feminine poses.

vwrangler said:

I'm kind of impressed that he looks less fair with Victoria's skin than his own, even though she's tuned so that she can only be a blond or redhead without looking odd.

I know plenty of brunettes with Vicky's type skin. It's a pop culture misnomer that only blond & rufous people have that skin type. Now it is true that the probability of having that skin type skyrockets if the person is a natural blond or rufous, but even then they are still outnumbered by brunettes with that skin type.

I wouldn't have reckonized that character Serene Night rendered was Mike 8, as the original Mike 8 looks a lot like John Travolta and this character doesn't. I guess that's a testament to people, despite stereo vision, are still better suited to remember things that can be represented on 2 planes rather than the 3 planes needed to accurately notice the details of the 3D shape geometry over the 2D features of skin variations. 

That knight's clothing does drape well though.

The experiences I have with G9 (mainly victoria hd):

- Way faster load times than G8.1 figures and comparable load times with G8 figures.

- Immediately crashes if I set subD to Loop (case with Victoria HD).

- Hard to understand how to load a G9 figure. I mean, for example; it is not apparent and easy to find G9 Female figure right ahead.

- G9 female doesn't look like female!?

- Growing Up pack doesn't properly correct chest ratios.

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This is it for now.

It's hard to say as far as functionality goes.  I don't find Michael 8 appealing, Michael 6 is okay (except the eyebrows).  I forgot about Bjorn though and that is a nice texture option.  I never use Michaels on their own anyway, I morph them a lot.  Michael 4 has the best 3rd party assets (star wars).  Michael 7 has nice shoulders.  Michael  textures but I will be utilizing Bjorn more.  As far as the gen 8 males go, Sanjay, Valentino, Holt.  For the gen 7s, it's Kyle, Gianni, Darius, a few of the Dante add ons.  For gen 6, it's Gianni, Lee.  I prefer David 5's textures for the gen 5 models and Michael 4's John Crow.  I have a hard time getting Michael 4 and Victoria 4 for that matter to work with the new updates so I haven't been using them.  It will be interesting to see what they do with Michael 9 though.