Hello all,

General questions about how to shop on Daz3d. I am new to this and use Poser 12.

1. If I want to buy Victoria 4 or Michael 4 would I go to Shop/ 3d Models or Shop/ People and Wearables?

2. Next step on the Figure pull down I'm seeing check boxes for Michael 4  and Michael 4 Elite.  What's the difference and why is it that when I choose Michael 4 I don't see anything that looks like a basic male figure?

3. Once I have bought these 2 figures, what is the best way to find clothes for them. Let's say I want a wedding gown  for Victoria 4. How would I go about doing that?

 

Thank you!

Victoria 4 and Michael 4 are very good Poser figures sold here at DAZ, with an incredible amount of content available.  Keep an eye out for Legacy sales; there was recently a 90% off sale on a lot of this content.  Buy at least the base and Morph++ packages for each. 

If you have them, I could point you to improved weightmapped versions of each which give improved bending......
 

Victoria 4, Michael 4, and their companions are Poser figures. Genesis was the first Daz Studio figure. Check the Compatibility and What's Included sections of the product page if in doubt - CR2, PP2, HR2 and so on are Poser-format files, .duf and .dsf are Daz Studio.

Diomede said:

Argh, and more argh.  I am just having all sorts of trouble this time around.  Another scene, another crash.  In this, I had 2 Genesis 9 figures, one set to my G8 Male Mummy morph and one set to Victoria 9.  I had one Carrara hair for V9 which I liked and did not save (argh, that was very stupid of me).  I had maybe 4 or 5 props with some tiled shaders of Egypt-themed texture maps.  I had one vertex object to be V9's clothing/wrapping.  Lighting was set up.  All was well and I was getting close to doing test renders.  I decided to try to add some detail to a prop by adding Carrara hair - and crash-o freeze-o.  

Argh, argh, argh.

What a PITA - was hoping your troubles were behind you !!!

Argh, and more argh.  I am just having all sorts of trouble this time around.  Another scene, another crash.  In this, I had 2 Genesis 9 figures, one set to my G8 Male Mummy morph and one set to Victoria 9.  I had one Carrara hair for V9 which I liked and did not save (argh, that was very stupid of me).  I had maybe 4 or 5 props with some tiled shaders of Egypt-themed texture maps.  I had one vertex object to be V9's clothing/wrapping.  Lighting was set up.  All was well and I was getting close to doing test renders.  I decided to try to add some detail to a prop by adding Carrara hair - and crash-o freeze-o.  

Argh, argh, argh.

demetriouca said:

Oh, wow!  I am relatively new to Poser (I user Poser 12). Am I right in saying that it doesn't look like I should bother in using the DAZ figures  for now?  That they are problematic... and take some "technical savvy?"

It would be possible to export the Gensis 1 and 2 figures from Poser in CR2 format, but that is fiddly and would lose some features 9such as morph following - though Poser does now have its own version of that). Older cintent (e.g. Victoria/Michael 4 and older) is already in Poser native format.

Art2Eager said:

Is there any way to disable the giant flashing black and white video on the main page before we log in? Asking for a friend.

This type of UX design can literally kill people at random. And on top of that, it doesn't even make the models look good. Just fix it the cheap and easy and obvious way.

And maybe next time you launch a new marketing campaign, consider displaying the features of the content in a way that actually gives your users time to appreciate them. Steadly lighting. Sustained shots. Focus on one element at a time. Basically advertising 101. I don't understand why you decided this cacophonic nightmare needed to be the world's first introduction to Victoria 9 and, for some users, your storefront as a whole.

TL;DR: Blinking a light on and off under your model's chin while their face fills the whole screen like this isn't just dangerous, it's also bad marketing.

 

Blipverts! https://tubitv.com/series/300008460/max-headroom

 

Sorry. Don't mean to make light of a serious situation, but your post made me think of this old show.

I bought her yesterday (after an internal 'should I/shouldn't I' war). Seems she is without JCMs as her hip has some weird bend issues (top of bend distorted like a pinch, bulging at the side) that I would get if I made my own model. This seems quite rude since she costs more than most figures. What's the deal? Are we waiting for a Vendor to fix this? Am a little annoyed.

I used some of the basic body morphs from the standard Daz Originals pack for Genesis 9.

If you want to get good and realistic looking anatomy you're usually better off going to 3rd party websites, Renderotica being one of them.

The problem is that while you do indeed get anatomy additions when you buy a Pro bundle, this doesn't guarantee that it will also work with your character(s). It's an add-on after all and there are plenty of publishing artists who don't bother with texturizing this.

This doesn't apply to Victoria 8 btw, the "All maps" material preset also includes textures for the add-on.

 

Thanks very much but I get an error warning. 

I am using G8 male and Toon Santa and your script G8Fpos to GV3

From Log file

G:/DAZ_Stuff/Figs_Gen/Scripts/ChestnutP/G8FPoseTransferToGV3.dsa

2022-11-12 14:03:06.472 [WARNING] :: Script Error: Line 55

2022-11-12 14:03:06.472 [WARNING] :: TypeError: Result of expression 'oSkeletonG8F' [null] is not an object.

2022-11-12 14:03:06.472 [WARNING] :: Stack Trace:

<anonymous>()@G:/DAZ_Stuff/Figs_Gen/Scripts/ChestnutP/G8FPoseTransferToGV3.dsa:55

2022-11-12 14:03:06.473 [INFO] :: Error in script execution: G:/DAZ_Stuff/Figs_Gen/Scripts/ChestnutP/G8FPoseTransferToGV3.dsa

 

But when I used Victoria 2 instead of Santa Toon it worked great.

 

richardandtracy said:

If you have a suitable pose in G8F/M format then I have done a freebie pose transfer script that does G8 to A3/V3/H3/M3 transfer if that's any use. Apply the pose to a G8 character, use the correct transfer script and the Generation 3 character will have a similar pose. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/446941/g8f-pose-transfer-to-aiko-3-victoria-3-gv3 . G8M to M3 work with the script even though not mentioned. Regards, Richard

Thank you very much. Will try it...

plops said:

Anatomical Elements are in the "Genesis 9 Starter Essentials Expansion" product from DAZ.

Which wouldn't be helpful for the OP, who is using Victoria 8.

Art2Eager said:

I'm honestly not sure what to do with this, now that I've seen it. Victoria 9 looks more or less "normal?" That is, it looks how you'd expect a regular Daz character to look? But Genesis 9 looks more like a base mesh you'd use to start sculpting a Daz character. I don't see how it's useable for any purpose out-of-the-box. Maybe it plays nicely with clothing, or something, due to the simplicity of the mesh? But we won't really know that until people have used it extensively. I've heard the facial expressions are better than Genesis 8, but I'm still learning 8.1, so can't personally confirm.

Final answer: wait and see.

G9 is really not supposed to be used out-of-the-box. :) Its a genderless base that is optimised to work as efficient as possible for both male and female genders, as well as any other shape users want to make.

A base model cannot have features that are too strong, or it will make it hard to change the look of a character - anyone remember the first Michael morphs? It took an extreme effort to make the face look like anything other than Michael. Having a base that's easy to sculpt, change and morph helps to give variety to gene pool.

If you have a suitable pose in G8F/M format then I have done a freebie pose transfer script that does G8 to A3/V3/H3/M3 transfer if that's any use. Apply the pose to a G8 character, use the correct transfer script and the Generation 3 character will have a similar pose. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/446941/g8f-pose-transfer-to-aiko-3-victoria-3-gv3 . G8M to M3 work with the script even though not mentioned. Regards, Richard

Leana said:

A few more ideas of outfits to look at:

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-gunslinger-for-genesis-8-males

https://www.daz3d.com/western-outlaw-2-0-for-genesis-3-male-s

https://www.daz3d.com/shenandoah-texas-ranger-outfit-for-genesis-3-male-s

https://www.daz3d.com/cowboy-outfit-for-genesis-3-male-s

https://www.daz3d.com/retro-skirt-for-genesis-3-female-s

https://www.daz3d.com/long-leather-coat-and-hat-for-genesis-3-female-s

https://www.daz3d.com/watch-my-charm-for-genesis-3-female-s

https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-iven-for-genesis-3-females

 

Weapons:

https://www.daz3d.com/old-west-firearms-vol-1

https://www.daz3d.com/old-west-firearms-vol-2

https://www.daz3d.com/old-west-firearms-vol-3

Thank you for all of this, especially the links to Genesis 3 items!

 

I'm honestly not sure what to do with this, now that I've seen it. Victoria 9 looks more or less "normal?" That is, it looks how you'd expect a regular Daz character to look? But Genesis 9 looks more like a base mesh you'd use to start sculpting a Daz character. I don't see how it's useable for any purpose out-of-the-box. Maybe it plays nicely with clothing, or something, due to the simplicity of the mesh? But we won't really know that until people have used it extensively. I've heard the facial expressions are better than Genesis 8, but I'm still learning 8.1, so can't personally confirm.

Final answer: wait and see.

I don't remember the gaps for previous generations, but for Michael 8 he cam almost three months after Victoria 8. No clue if the time will be cut down due to the single base mesh, but it's not unusual for there to be a sizable gap between the two.

Art2Eager said:

Is there any way to disable the giant flashing black and white video on the main page before we log in? Asking for a friend.

This type of UX design can literally kill people at random. And on top of that, it doesn't even make the models look good. Just fix it the cheap and easy and obvious way.

And maybe next time you launch a new marketing campaign, consider displaying the features of the content in a way that actually gives your users time to appreciate them. Steadly lighting. Sustained shots. Focus on one element at a time. Basically advertising 101. I don't understand why you decided this cacophonic nightmare needed to be the world's first introduction to Victoria 9 and, for some users, your storefront as a whole.

TL;DR: Blinking a light on and off under your model's chin while their face fills the whole screen like this isn't just dangerous, it's also bad marketing.

I was going to ask  "What giant flashy thing" then I went to the home page and noticed there was a "play" button on the imbedded video.

I use Firefox and have the "Autoplay" setting set to "Default for all websites:  BLOCK AUDIO AND VIDEO".  Hopefully other browsers will have a similar setting.  That should make general browsing safer for people sensitive to the dancing head-shaker nonsense.

 

Is there any way to disable the giant flashing black and white video on the main page before we log in? Asking for a friend.

This type of UX design can literally kill people at random. And on top of that, it doesn't even make the models look good. Just fix it the cheap and easy and obvious way.

And maybe next time you launch a new marketing campaign, consider displaying the features of the content in a way that actually gives your users time to appreciate them. Steadly lighting. Sustained shots. Focus on one element at a time. Basically advertising 101. I don't understand why you decided this cacophonic nightmare needed to be the world's first introduction to Victoria 9 and, for some users, your storefront as a whole.

TL;DR: Blinking a light on and off under your model's chin while their face fills the whole screen like this isn't just dangerous, it's also bad marketing.

I think we are unlikely to see male characters 9well, huamn males characters) until Michael 9 launches - which I would assume is offset from Victoria 9 so they don't compete.