OT: 600 to 900 Nvidia video cards

AJ2112AJ2112 Posts: 1,417
edited November 2015 in The Commons

I've been doing alot of research on video cards, noticed specs on 600, 700, 900 series are all basically the same, cept price.  Does anyone know the reason why?  Or the major differences in video card series.  

The other day I went to purchase a 750Ti or 960 video card.  Store rep sold me a brand new in box Evga 670,.  He explained that the 670 is more powerful then many newer cards, for half the price.  Which didn't make any sense to me.  Well, to make a long story short.  Specs on my card is similar to 960 2GB, but mine has more cuda cores and 256-bit, dual dvi and single hdmi output, while 960 series 128-bit. single dvi/hdmi.  Any net links to differences ?  Video cards can be tricky.  Just curious, not much difference in specs between 600 to 900 series, other then price.  Thanks.     

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  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,273

    Specifications

     

     

    Model GeForce GTX 960 Geforce GTX 670
    Manufacturer nVidia nVidia
    Year January 2015 May 2012
    Code Name GM206 GK104
    Memory 2048 MB  2048 MB 
    Core Speed 1127 MHz  915 MHz 
    Memory Speed 7000 MHz  6000 MHz 
    Power (Max TDP) 120 watts 170 watts
    Bandwidth 112000 MB/sec 192000 MB/sec
    Texel Rate 72128 Mtexels/sec 102480 Mtexels/sec
    Pixel Rate 36064 Mpixels/sec 29280 Mpixels/sec
    Unified Shaders 1024  1344 
    Texture Mapping Units 64  112 
    Render Output Units 32  32 
    Bus Type GDDR5 GDDR5
    Bus Width 128-bit  256-bit 
    Fab Process 28 nm 28 nm
    Transistors 2940 million 3540 million
    Bus PCIe 3.0 x16 PCIe 3.0 x16
    DirectX Version DirectX 12.0 DirectX 11.0
    OpenGL Version OpenGL 4.5 OpenGL 4.2
     
  • AJ2112AJ2112 Posts: 1,417
    edited November 2015

    Thanks Stratdragon, very cool ! where did you get the specs ?  Exactly what I'm sharing.  Only 960 is Dirext X12, slightly higher OpenGL, and a few other slight increase.  Memory is very similar.  Only 670 released 3 years ago.  Oh, well I'm not complainin, just curious.  I had an honest sales rep smiley 

     

     

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  • ToborTobor Posts: 2,300

    nVidia provides specs for all their cards on their site. Here's the one for the 670. Just replace the model number to get others (or do a search on Google; the specs page is usually at the top of the list.

    http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-670

    Of the 960 versus 670, what's "better" really depends on the rendering engine you're using. For Iray, what matters most is video RAM and number of CUDA cores ("Unified Shaders" in the above). In Iray-land, the number of cores is the largest determining factor for render speed. Other aspecs like RAM speed are important, too, but rtender times are best benefited by more cores.

    The 670 is actually a nice board for budget Iray rendering. It has a few hundred more CUDA cores than a 960, and because it's an older card, can be found used on eBay for $100 or so. Be sure to get a version with at least 2GB; the 4GB version is a little more. (Remember that nVidaa specs are for their reference designs. They license their boards to other manufacturers, who have the option to put less or more VRAM into them.)

  • AJ2112AJ2112 Posts: 1,417
    edited November 2015

    Thanks for reply Tobor.  I like the side by side comparison Stratdragon uploaded.  Thanks for the info, what I needed to know.  Now, I know what to look for in a future card.  I already have the 670, which is a major improvement over 630.  Plan on picking up another one for SLI.  My 630 only had 96 cuda cores.  Yikes !!!  I rendered a scene 630 card only, took 5- 6 minutes to reach 1%, with 670 card alone took 4 minutes something to render complete scene.  670 with 8 core cpu render took approx 2 minutes.     

    Yeah, I told the sales rep exactly what card was used for, 3D rendering on a budget, I had a GTX 630.  Thought he was just trying to dump off an older card on me, when he recommeded 670.

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,307
    edited November 2015

    But on GTX 960 with 4GB GDDR5 video RAM, larger IRAY scenes can fit in it.

    There are also GTX 970 with 4GB GDDR5 video RAM, which are getting cheaper, as well.

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  • ToborTobor Posts: 2,300
    Artini said:

    But on GTX 960 with 4GB GDDR5 video RAM, larger IRAY scenes can fit in it.

    As I said above, it depends on the manufacturer of the card. There are cheaper 960s with only 2GB, the same as there are more expensive 670s with 4GB. Most nVidia models don't have a specified amount VRAM, and they are often available in several different "flavors." 

    @awesomefb, If you do get the 670, I'd consider going a little higher and opt for the 4GB model, especially if you won't be keeping the 630 as your display card. Look around for a good price. Most will be either used or refurbished. EVGA's version is superclocked, comes with 4GB, and is DDR5.

  • The GTX 960 is not very good for the 900 series. Take the GTX 980, it is about twice as fast as the GTX 960 (and the GTX 670). The GTX 670 should cost much more than the GTX 960. That the GTX 670 is cheaper is just plain false. 

    http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960-vs-Nvidia-GTX-670/3165vs2181

    Here's the 980 up against the 670.

    http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-vs-Nvidia-GTX-670/2576vs2181

     

  • AJ2112AJ2112 Posts: 1,417
    edited November 2015

    Thanks to all replies, learned a thing or two about video cards. 

    @Tobor - I already have a 670 video card.  Couldn't find a 4GB.  Your statement is very true, I've alway's been a fan of Evga, I've never had any issues with thier cards past decade. 

    @AlienRenders - I purchased a 670, for less then price of 960 & 980 cards.  Reason I was asking, why? price on newer model cards were alot higher then older cards, and yet older cards havd similar specs, some older cards perform better then newer ones. 

     

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