New Shop 'Feature' : 'Product Owned'

Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,398
edited March 9 in The Commons

The red 'Purchased' button has been replaced with a "Produc Owned"statement and no button. Ocassionaly I might want to repurchase an item to get a better discount on a purchase. But now there is no way to repurchase an item.nono Definitely not a good feature. Please go back to having the 'Purchased' button to allow intentional repurchase of an item.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,533

    likely by design for just that reason

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 3,317

    Some pages still have the purchased button. Looks like it's a bit of code as well-implemented as the Outlet corner flash.

  • FizzleMythFizzleMyth Posts: 72

    I’m confused. How would repurchasing an item be efficient? Do they reimburse the previous purchase (and does it matter how long ago it was)??? That would seem an unusual practice if so.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,314

    FizzleMyth said:

    I’m confused. How would repurchasing an item be efficient? Do they reimburse the previous purchase (and does it matter how long ago it was)??? That would seem an unusual practice if so.

    I would assume this is for cases where adding one of a caegory makes the order total less than the original order without the item, we had one at the weekend where you needed to buy froma category that was empty for me. However, I though trying to add to cart with the Purchased button had been broken for a while anyway.

  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,292

    This won't prevent me from buying a package if I already own some of the packages within that bigger package, will it?

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,398
    edited March 9

    Drogo Nazhur said:

    This won't prevent me from buying a package if I already own some of the packages within that bigger package, will it?

    No, only if you already own the actual package. 

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  • Cam FoxCam Fox Posts: 364

    Drogo Nazhur said:

    This won't prevent me from buying a package if I already own some of the packages within that bigger package, will it?

    No, that should work fine.

     

    FizzleMyth said:

    I’m confused. How would repurchasing an item be efficient? Do they reimburse the previous purchase (and does it matter how long ago it was)??? That would seem an unusual practice if so.

    It's been useful for deals like "Buy 1 from this category, Get a discount on 10 from this other category" where the buy-in is unwanted, so the cheapest item is rebought repeatedly to keep triggering the deal. Or as Richard pointed out, if someone already owns all the buy-ins, they could repurchase one to participate in the sale.

    Often when I open a product listing I see the Add to Cart button even if I already own the product, so I've had to refresh each and every page to be sure I'm not accidentally buying something I already own. The Product Owned label actually seems to fix that now, which is nice.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,398

    Cam Fox said:

    Drogo Nazhur said:

    This won't prevent me from buying a package if I already own some of the packages within that bigger package, will it?

    No, that should work fine.

     

    FizzleMyth said:

    I’m confused. How would repurchasing an item be efficient? Do they reimburse the previous purchase (and does it matter how long ago it was)??? That would seem an unusual practice if so.

    It's been useful for deals like "Buy 1 from this category, Get a discount on 10 from this other category" where the buy-in is unwanted, so the cheapest item is rebought repeatedly to keep triggering the deal. Or as Richard pointed out, if someone already owns all the buy-ins, they could repurchase one to participate in the sale.

    Often when I open a product listing I see the Add to Cart button even if I already own the product, so I've had to refresh each and every page to be sure I'm not accidentally buying something I already own. The Product Owned label actually seems to fix that now, which is nice.

    While it may fix the add to cart issue it raises another one. What if I want to repurchase an item toin order to be able to participate in a sale??? We need some way to repurchase items if desired! 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,314

    Drogo Nazhur said:

    This won't prevent me from buying a package if I already own some of the packages within that bigger package, will it?

    No, you will get a discount proportional to the parts you already own.

  • FrankTheTankFrankTheTank Posts: 1,535

    Cam Fox said:

    Drogo Nazhur said:

    This won't prevent me from buying a package if I already own some of the packages within that bigger package, will it?

    No, that should work fine.

     

    FizzleMyth said:

    I’m confused. How would repurchasing an item be efficient? Do they reimburse the previous purchase (and does it matter how long ago it was)??? That would seem an unusual practice if so.

    It's been useful for deals like "Buy 1 from this category, Get a discount on 10 from this other category" where the buy-in is unwanted, so the cheapest item is rebought repeatedly to keep triggering the deal. Or as Richard pointed out, if someone already owns all the buy-ins, they could repurchase one to participate in the sale.

    Often when I open a product listing I see the Add to Cart button even if I already own the product, so I've had to refresh each and every page to be sure I'm not accidentally buying something I already own. The Product Owned label actually seems to fix that now, which is nice.

    There was a News Years eve sale a few years back where buying one item from a select number of items would allow you to get a free Genesis 8 Pro Bundle. There were like 8-10 qualifying items in the list. But It was possible to get unlimited free Genesis 8 Pro Bundles by simply rebuying the cheapest item in the list, which was less than a dollar if I remember correctly.  

  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,292

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Drogo Nazhur said:

    This won't prevent me from buying a package if I already own some of the packages within that bigger package, will it?

    No, you will get a discount proportional to the parts you already own.

    Is this new? Because in the past I never got such a discount. I paid full price for a sub package. Then the entire pacage went on sale and the entire package was cheaper than the sub package that I bought. I was charged the regular sale price of the package. 

  • Cam FoxCam Fox Posts: 364
    edited March 10

    FrankTheTank said:

    There was a News Years eve sale a few years back where buying one item from a select number of items would allow you to get a free Genesis 8 Pro Bundle. There were like 8-10 qualifying items in the list. But It was possible to get unlimited free Genesis 8 Pro Bundles by simply rebuying the cheapest item in the list, which was less than a dollar if I remember correctly.  

    Haha, in that context I can see why they would want to disable rebuys. :) But I agree with others that it's important to have a way for shoppers to participate in a sale when they already own all the available buy-ins, at least for some types of sales. They could use a coupon code for deals like free bundles to have the best of both worlds.

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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,748

    Drogo Nazhur said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Drogo Nazhur said:

    This won't prevent me from buying a package if I already own some of the packages within that bigger package, will it?

    No, you will get a discount proportional to the parts you already own.

    Is this new? Because in the past I never got such a discount. I paid full price for a sub package. Then the entire pacage went on sale and the entire package was cheaper than the sub package that I bought. I was charged the regular sale price of the package. 

    I have been doing that for at least six months, maybe more. Daz had dabbled in it before, offering bundles with reductions for parts you already owned. They might have found it successful enough that they made it a permanent feature sometime last year. I believe it encourages people to continue buying the rest of the bundle, when many would unwillingly, or at least, reluctantly, pay for the same items twice (or more) if they decided that they actually wanted the rest.

  • DiscipleDisciple Posts: 189

    I'm side-eyeing "PRODUCT OWNED".

    I don't own it. I licensed it.

    If I owned it, then I could give it away or sell it, but I don't so I can't. It may be a nit-picky point, but I expect the distinction would be one DAZ3D cares about. That's all.

    Hallelujah!
    Disciple

  • Drogo Nazhur said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Drogo Nazhur said:

    This won't prevent me from buying a package if I already own some of the packages within that bigger package, will it?

    No, you will get a discount proportional to the parts you already own.

    Is this new? Because in the past I never got such a discount. I paid full price for a sub package. Then the entire pacage went on sale and the entire package was cheaper than the sub package that I bought. I was charged the regular sale price of the package. 

    That changed last year, I think in the summer. It's great. 

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 3,089

    Charlie Judge said:

    Ocassionaly I might want to repurchase an item to get a better discount on a purchase.

    I may have horribly abused that one back in April 2020.

    If you "bought" the April Fools banana suit along with one of the new releases, you got to have $20 off a selection of other Daz Originals. And there was a new release that came out to a little over $2, so I ended up repurchasing that something like fifteen times...

    Of course, the joke may be on me, as I probably haven't *used* most of the stuff I got that way.

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,495

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Drogo Nazhur said:

    This won't prevent me from buying a package if I already own some of the packages within that bigger package, will it?

    No, you will get a discount proportional to the parts you already own.

    Let's add the caveat, except for certain flash sales and OS bundles where no further discount applies, because I've bought packs where I owned an item or two (or more!) and I didn't get a credit for items already owned - Also note, I felt the deal was still good enough to go through with the sale, but no discount for items owned applied. And there have been times where the deal was no longer good enough and I didn't buy. Does that make sense?

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,495
    edited March 10

    I haven't seen any items where the 'purchased' button is still there. I haven't looked beyond a few recent purchases.

    It looks like the new feature comes with the beginning of a product rating system, though that's restricted to like/didn't like. I haven't felt like actually pressing them to see what happens. The very few times I've got a product I really didn't like, I returned them.

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  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,807

    Torquinox said:

    I haven't seen any items where the 'purchased' button is still there. I haven't looked beyond a few recent purchases.

    It looks like the new feature comes with the beginning of a product rating system, though that's restricted to like/didn't like. I haven't felt like actually pressing them to see what happens. The very few times I've got a product I really didn't like, I returned them.

    Ah, I thought that User Rating line on the product page was new - it wasn't there yesterday.

    Where are you seeing the like/didn't like buttons? I've not seen them yet.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,398

    MelanieL said:

    Torquinox said:

    I haven't seen any items where the 'purchased' button is still there. I haven't looked beyond a few recent purchases.

    It looks like the new feature comes with the beginning of a product rating system, though that's restricted to like/didn't like. I haven't felt like actually pressing them to see what happens. The very few times I've got a product I really didn't like, I returned them.

    Ah, I thought that User Rating line on the product page was new - it wasn't there yesterday.

    Where are you seeing the like/didn't like buttons? I've not seen them yet.

    I didn't see the like/dislike buttons yesterday. Today I'm seeing them directly beneath the "Product Owned" line 

  • ElorElor Posts: 3,527
    edited March 10

    MelanieL said:

    Where are you seeing the like/didn't like buttons? I've not seen them yet.

    Under the purchased text in green:

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  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,807
    edited March 10

    Ah, I looked at my purchases from yesterday and there are no buttons there. I went back to a few purchases from the days before and there they are.

    I wonder if there's a 24-hour delay or something to give us the chance to install and try them before rating.

    ETA: No, a hard refresh does the trick.

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  • ElorElor Posts: 3,527
    edited March 10

    It feels like a new feature, maybe one they added today or yesterday.

    Edit: funny, the 'Not enough ratings yet. Be the first to rate this product' doesn't change even after I clicked on I Like it:

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  • bytescapesbytescapes Posts: 1,913
    edited March 10

    SilverGirl said:

    Some pages still have the purchased button. Looks like it's a bit of code as well-implemented as the Outlet corner flash.

    I suspect that's a caching issue. Reloading the page will probably get you the new elements (or not, multi-layered web caching being a whole thing and prone to going wrong in mysterious ways).

    I find the new implementation more than a little ugly. The 'Product Owned' is aligned with the price on the left side of the page, while the "Do you like this?" text and buttons are aligned to the vertical center of the download button. But that puts the 'Product Owned' text out of alignment with the download button that's immediately next to it. Previously, the red 'Purchased' was aligned to the top of the download button (if I remember correctly), which looked better.

    If I were designing it, I think I'd want to make the 'Product Owned' a solid-colored block with white text on it, and have that aligned vertically with the download button, then place the ratings widget underneath it. Having the 'Product Owned' text floating there with half its height above the download button looks clunky (to my eyes, at least).

    EDIT: The screenshot above looks fine, and it took me a moment to realize what the difference is. It's that the download button doesn't appear on it. Is that download button a non-standard element introduced by the DAZ Deals plug-in? That doesn't seem likely, but the page has clearly been designed on the assumption that that button won't be there. Very mysterious.

    Below is what I see:

     

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  • ElorElor Posts: 3,527

    One missing feature of the Purchased red button on the new Product Owned text is that the Purchased red button was a link to the product in our daz3D.com products library (I don't think it's a feature of Daz deals because Daz Deals is adding its own icon to access the product library).

  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 3,169
    edited March 10

    The feature is of limited use as far as I can tell, the store still isn't batting a thousand when it come to what I've purchased. I still have the option to accidentally re-purchase something that I'd really rather not.

    I've purchased the Leona 9 HD Character Bundle, for example, but I'm still welcome to repurchase the bundle again or, if not the whole bunde, any of the pieces. This has made shopping in the store far less enjoyable as of late as I sometimes spend more time making sure I haven't purchased something than I do finding things I *want* to purchase.

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  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,398

    wsterdan said:

    The feature is of limited use as far as I can tell, the store still isn't batting a thousand when it come to what I've purchased. I still have the option to accidentally re-purchase something that I'd really rather not.

    I've purchased the Leona 9 HD Character Bundle, for example, but I'm still welcome to repurchase the bundle again or, if not the whole bunde, any of the pieces. This has made shopping in the store far less enjoyable as of late as I sometimes spend more time making sure I haven't purchased something than I do finding things I *want* to purchase.

    And meanwhile we can't repurchase an item if we want to. Grrr! 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,314

    Elor said:

    It feels like a new feature, maybe one they added today or yesterday.

    Edit: funny, the 'Not enough ratings yet. Be the first to rate this product' doesn't change even after I clicked on I Like it:

    It needs more than one rating before it will show an overall rating.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,518

    I have made it my mission to go to all those solid black neon-lit Daz+ freebie product pages and rate them no.  Almost every one of those product pages opens with "Add to Cart", even though I own the product. I have to refresh the page to get it to say purchased. Then when I click the thumbs down to rate it, I almost always get an error message. Then I have to refresh the page again and wait, wait, wait and then it finally takes the thumbs down (don't like) rating.

    The implementation of this new rating system could use some improvement to the UI.

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  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,495

    @Barbult has a point about those d+ freebies. A lot of them are a waste of time. And as freebies there's nothing to return.

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